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Topic Dog Boards / Behaviour / adult dog welsh terrier - will it accept a bitch pup?
- By tedsally [gb] Date 05.05.07 20:06 UTC
I recently lost my beautiful sally,a 6 yr old welsh terrier,almost overnight with lymphatic cancer,she leaves behind her brother,ted,also 6.
I could never replace sally and wouldnt want to however she is such a miss,it doesnt seem right having one,the original breeder has a single young pup,a bitch, from the same lines as ted and sally.
BUT.......i'm soft as clarts with ted,he's spoilt and owns the house ( to late i found out their bossy tendencies ) i am merely a servant tending to his every need ( which i don't mind as i love him to bits ) he's aggressive with all dogs he meets outside and must always be leashed,not a big problem as we have a very big garden,he was fine with sally,they had the occasional  fall out but loved each other...
now..the problem is ....if i was to bring a young 12 week old pup,a bitch,into HIS home, would he go for it.....i'm hoping the smell and breed will remind him of sally and stave off any attack.
I've bought a large cage as a precaution and even a muzzle for ted for that initial meeting however i don't want to leash him on the first meet as that makes him worse.
the distance to the breeder his quite away hence i cannot just whip it back if it all goes to the fan.
any advice would be very much appreciated.
frank b ( and ted )
- By Lokis mum [gb] Date 05.05.07 20:19 UTC
Although I have no experience of Welsh terriers, I would think that a puppy (and a bitch puppy to boot!) would pose absolutelyu no threat to Ted!

Take the breeder's advice in this instance -personally, I would think that this would be a good introduction - have the crate ready for puppy (she will try and take advantage of the situation and will tease and torment poor Ted) but things should go well.

Good luck - and let us know how things go.

She will never take the place of your beloved Sally, but she can take up the space in your heart.........

Margot x
- By BETTYBOO1963 [gb] Date 05.05.07 20:33 UTC Edited 05.05.07 20:36 UTC
I had a very similar scenario to you but only in the fact that i decided to get a male puppy to live with my 5 year old dobe bitch.My bitch was not keen on other dogs but despite all the advice I had on here telling me that under no circumstances should I introduce a new dog to my household, I went ahead and bought a 9 week old weim.I introduced them very carefully and allowed my bitch to go upstairs away from the puppy should he get too boisterous, which of course he did.For the first week she stayed upstairs out of the way, when she ventured downstairs I just pretty much let them get on with it, keeping an eye on the bitch in case she had a nip, which she did on a few occassions.The puppy always wanted to play and she wasnt impressed but after a few weeks she tolerated him.Then eventually she sucumbed and actually playes with him from time to time. I have had the puppy for 8 months now and although she will never see him as her best friend they live quite happily alongide each other.
I think that you can only try these things for yourself, you will get lots of conflicting advice but do what you feel is right.I expect your boy will find a puppy annoying, she wont be his best friend for a while,and wont replace his sister possibly but usually these things sort themselves out, with the older dog sorting out pecking order if you can stand to let him sort your puppy out for himself.I think that also as he is used to having another dog living with him and he will know its a baby, then it might be easier for him to adjust.You have done the right thing with the crate, and the muzzle, I did have both things when we brought our pup home.I think that if you try it and it doesnt work out then your breeder would probably have the pup back,despite the distance, the crate will keep them apart until you could take her back,but thats the worst case scenario.Hope this helps.Good Luck.
- By Goldmali Date 05.05.07 23:21 UTC
Most dogs will accept pups even if they don't normally get on with other adult dogs.

I really, really would ditch the muzzle idea though -that is only going to upset Ted and he'll associate the unpleasant experience (I am assuming he is NOT already trained to wear a muzzle -it does take time and patience to get a dog to accept one) of having to wear that at their first meeting, with the pup , so not a good idea. It may also make the pup bark at him and wonder what on earth he's wearing and may unsettle the pup -she most likely has never seen a dog wearing a muzzle.
- By cooperscrossing [gb] Date 05.05.07 23:43 UTC Edited 05.05.07 23:45 UTC
Whatever you do, don't muzzle Ted.  Just play it softly, softly - let Ted met pup in his own good time, keep it quiet and calm and he'll end up head over heels in love with her. 

More often than not a Welsh bitch will RULE absolute over a Welsh male (and the boys are generally very happy with the situation too), so in the long term I'd not overly worry.

Try hard not to spoil the little one, Welsh are fantastic dogs but give them an inch and as you know, they are an absolute handful.
- By Moonmaiden Date 06.05.07 08:52 UTC
I wouldn't muzzle him, my experience of dogs(as in males)with puppies(of either sex) is that they run a mile at first & if the puppy is a bitch they end up the boss in all circumstances & allowed to get away with everything by the male. I would make sure that Ted gets some time out from the puppy & that he continues to get the same attention that he gets now.

I'm getting another BC male puppy(well paws crossed bitch hasn't come in season yet)& I have three(& sometimes four)males here. I will take the three that permanently(& Loukar if he is here) live with me to collect him & they will be introduced fully when I get home. The Cavaliers I know will be fine with him & my adult BC will accept him as he has met loads of puppies & been great with them(lol two GSDs aged 16 weeks gave him a good beating up which he adored & he was playing with a 16 week old Wolfie puppy that was bigger than him last week at training)

Rjj(the BC)has his own crate for when I leave him or visitors he doesn't know come & the puppy will have his own crate to start with as I like puppies to have time out & undisturbed sleep as well as the adults

Welshies are super little dogs but they can be very headstrong in my experience, but socialised & trained correctly they are a joyful feisty terrier
- By LucyD [gb] Date 06.05.07 20:54 UTC
My Henry ran a mile when he met the new puppy when he was 3 1/2 years old. He's a Cavalier, so perhaps more even temperament than your average terrier (ducks to avoid missiles from terrier fans!) but I would say after some initial adjustment most males of any breed will adjust, specially to a bitch! Both my boys love Ellie to bits now. :-)
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