as many of you are aware my JRT Milo is suffering Anemia. The vet because of his food allergies is working on the assumption that its ulceration of the bowel and treating him accordingly.
Now I know he has wheat/gluten allergy as he will scratch like mad if he manages to grab the smallest amount and so I have been feeding him Wainwrights which is a very good food. He has however still got the ulceration probaly caused by a food irritation to something. So I am thinking of trying him on Nature Diet.
I have never looked at this food before so know nothing about it. I've had a quick look on thier website and see its moist and comes in little containers.
Can anyone please tell me price of each container, Price of a multipack and the very most basic of the range that is complete so I won't need to add anything and that will hopefully help him heal inside by causing no more allergy irritation. Also how much a 6.36kg JRT would need to be fed each day.

Thanks

I think the price of packs in PAH is 47p....Not 100% sure but that sticks in my mind.  PAH don't sell it in multipacks but you can buy it direct from the suppliers.

Also what flavour of Wainwrights have you got him on?

He has been on either Duck and Rice or Turkey and Rice

Have you thought about maybe it's the meats and tried a fish based such as either Salmon and potato in wainwrights or the wafcol version?

Of course I couldn't say if it is that but maybe, possibly is due to meat protiens (unless of course the vet has ruled that out or you have tried him on the fish before)

Also could it be one of the flavours?  rather then both?  Or maybe as you say there is just something in wainwrights that doesn't agree with him.

In Pets at Home, Naturediet is at least 70p (the Naturediet Puppy was on offer at 67p) but it is worth it - it really is.  You would be better off ordering it direct from the company - it is much cheaper that way.  Their phone number is: 08700 132960.  They may also be able to advise you on your particular problem

I have two jack russells who between them average your Milo's weight.  I give them JWB as well and 1/2 of a Naturediet tub does them both for their evening feed.  1/2 a pack a day would probably be enough for your dog if the Naturediet was the only food that you are giving him.  You can always adjust if necessary.  You see, unlike cheaper 'supermarket' foods this is real food and you will need less. 

My friend's vizsla is on Naturediet permanently as he has got a senstive stomach and she swears by it.  He has the chicken and rice which is fairly bland.

Don't be tempted to go on cheap alternatives like Chappie - just look at the ingredients - fish and fish derivatives, meat and animal derivatives - need I say more.  I think that my dogs are worth the extra pence. 

Chappie has been recommended and appreciated for decades. 

You might want to also look into Naturesmenu whcih is similar in content to Naturediet.  Tescos stock it so is much easier to get hold of and very similarly priced to Naturediet.

I also think that chappie has some good values! it has sorted out many a dicky tum in this house and is nice and cheap too! saying that though, I wouldn't use it everyday as food as I tend to feed a mix of dried and raw.

Chappie is a very good food I agree but I cannot use it for my boy as it contains cereals and he is wheat/gluten intolerant.  But my girl had it when she was being very sick and had been on a drip.
I did telephone naturediet and he is now on thier sensitive Gold.  They sent me a free sample plus some free probiotic.
Thanks for all your help.

>Don't be tempted to go on cheap alternatives like Chappie

I have always thought naturediet was a much better alternative to chappie.ND seems to yield similar results but with much better ingredients :)

>ND seems to yield similar results but with much better ingredients

Does that not serve to show rather well that what some seem to regard as "better" ingredients means nothing in terms of results :) or put another way there is no such thing as a "better" ingredient.

Quote  [>ND seems to yield similar results but with much better ingredients

Does that not serve to show rather well that what some seem to regard as "better" ingredients means nothing in terms of results  or put another way there is no such thing as a "better" ingredient. ]

A good ingredient is what suits your individual dog as like us they all tolerate different things.  Some of us eat eggs and they do us good for someone else they could make them sick and ill.  Same thing.

Exactly :)  It would be just plain wrong to describe an egg as a bad ingredient.

I am just concerned about the 'meat and animal derivatives' part.  Could you tell me what the meat and animal derivatives are then?  Are they, in your opnion, acceptable ingredients?

No, can't tell you exactly what they are, but can tell you they must be from human grade meat.  Even if they are the bits we would not dream of eating I don't think it matters as long as the final nutitional outcome is matched to a dogs needs which has to be the case in the UK.  I also know that delicious things like the gravy made from those bits under your Sunday Roast would be given the label of meat derivative but whatever, as far as my dogs are concerned anything they think tastes good is an acceptable ingredient as from my point of view anything that is safe and meets all their needs is good :)

meat and animal derivatives are meat,(most likely not the best quality) the animal derivatives are things such as chicken heads, legs, any type of waste really thats left over once the good stuff (the meat) has been removed. Could well be digest (the contents of the stomach, intestines, etc) feathers, hoof, anything like that. just think of an animal, think what we actually eat off it, then think whats left. Thats derivatives ;)

Animal derivatives are the bits of the animal that humans don't eat but dogs would eat should they presented with the whole animal ;)

Well defined. :)

Mind you, have you looked in the freezers in oriental supermarkets?

:D  One has opened up in our town.  I spend hours in there, totally facinated, but don't actually buy anything much but noodles :D

The bags of frozen chicken and duck 'paws' (ie feet!) were amazing. It's the best place for tapioca, though! :D

Tapioca!  Now you are talking horror foods

My mother was telling me about how an Aunt used to cook her favourite lunch .... wait for it ........ chicken feet   Look on my face prompted my mother to say "I know, but I really liked them"  My mum still likes tripe and onions cooked in milk and soft roes on toast.  We've all become a bit namby pamby I'm afraid but really there's nothing wrong with these bits of the animals just our attitudes towards them.

BTW never did get around to finding any kidneys for my devilled kidneys dinner :rolleyes:

Pity you don't live near a Booths (2nd best grocers in the world!!) they have great piles of the shiny monstrosities on their fresh meat counter.

>Animal derivatives are the bits of the animal that humans don't eat but dogs would eat should they presented with the whole animal

That is a nice way of looking at it :) However when a dog is presented with a whole animal,lets say a rabbit,he is getting 2 kidney's,1 liver,1 heart,4 feet,2 eyes and a nice amount of muscle meat etc etc. However no-one know what the dog is getting or from which animal,unless this is specifically stated,when one feeds a food with derivatives in.He could be getting 20 sets of beaks,a few hooves,some feathers and loads of other cheap and indigestable items,and possibly,with a capital P, some nutritious liver and heart(unlikely,as these items are usually used for the human food chain),who knows?? The consumer certainly doesnt,there is no way we can know,as when a food lists derivatives it enables the manu' to change ingredients from batch to batch using whatever he so pleases. My opinion is when one feeds a food with un named ingredients it is best to take the rose coloured specs off ;)

>Does that not serve to show rather well that what some seem to regard as "better" ingredients means nothing in terms of results

If i can get similar results by feeding cleaner,healthier ingredients then i would be silly not to do so.Naturediet can sort out dickie tums like chappie sometimes does,but it also contains better(there's that word again ),healthier ingredients which stands to benefit the dog in many other ways other than it's digestion.In other words you get more bang for your buck with ND then you would a food like chappie.

>Could well be digest (the contents of the stomach, intestines, etc

No, that's not what 'digest' is, although that's what the word sounds like. Digest is defined as "chemically or enzymatically treated animal tissue (such as flesh, bone, organs etc) from slaughterhouses and other sources, in a process akin to rendering. See here.

No ta!  I think I'll stick to my Naturediet!!  I'm not bothered about offal (I eat it myself) but I like to know exactly what I am feeding my animals.

but I like to know exactly what I am feeding my animals

I think you have hit the nail on the head with this comment. :)

Instead of vauge names for ingrediants, it would be better if the actual breakdown of what was in it was used, rather than just a couple of words. People may may their own minds up as to what they consider a 'good' food, when they actually know whats in it, and the proportions. if you have no objections to feeding the 'animal leftovers' from whatever beast or fowl that may be, or what quantity, that is the buyers choice. Not only are you looking at what your animal eats, you are also looking at what you are actually paying for. can be quite expensive, poor value for money if the cheap leftovers are the main make-up, together with the cheaper cereal fillers. But, at the end of the day, if the contents are known, the buyer can make the choice.

In both jeangenies link(where the author has studied for 3 weeks..Boy would i get slammed if i posted that!) and this one Digest is listed under "bad ingredients" and "ingredients to avoid". The above link has a section which echo's what i said about derivatives/by-products but in a much more succinct way :D