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Topic Dog Boards / Feeding / Biting the bullet
- By katja [gb] Date 03.02.07 18:26 UTC
Hi over the last 2 days i have started to change the dogs over to raw feeding and they are mad for it ,it is early days yet so any advice i would be really grateful received, at the moment i am giving a small meal of complete meal in the morning and a meal of small cup of complete 1/4 lb of minced chicken or tripe 2 tablespoons of pulped veg either a raw egg or 1 tablespoon of sardines and a small handful  of mixer, i have given them a raw knuckle to chew and i have started to give the odd chicken wing as i say any help many thanks karen
- By Harley Date 03.02.07 19:13 UTC
Have sent you a pm
- By katja [gb] Date 05.02.07 16:10 UTC
Hi i have been looking at a book today and it did not recommend feeding chicken wings, i have been giving them for a few days and they love them but i am now afraid to feed them again 
- By Harley Date 05.02.07 17:10 UTC
Did it say why it didn't recommend feeding them?

If you followed a raw diet and the only thing you fed your dog was raw chicken wings then he wouldn't be getting all the nutrients etc required for a balanced diet and I can see how that would be a problem.

However if you feed raw and make sure the balance is correct then chicken wings could be included quite happily as partof the diet.  If you feed wings for a recreational purpose or for teeth cleaning then I can see no reason at all why they shouldn't be given to a dog AS LONG AS THEY ARE FED RAW AND NOT COOKED.
- By Ktee [us] Date 05.02.07 20:55 UTC

>i have been looking at a book today and it did not recommend feeding chicken wings


Which book,and why? I have many,many nutrition books and i cant say i have read one that recommends against rmb's...
- By katja [gb] Date 06.02.07 08:35 UTC
Sorry i had not worded my previous post correctly, it recommended you do not feed chicken wings to bigger dogs it said they were fine for tiny dogs and the book was 'Work wonders feed your dogs raw meaty bones' by Tom lonsdale like i say i do apologise for that but any way it still put me off the wings  karen  
- By Harley Date 06.02.07 11:38 UTC
I have a Golden Retriever who regularly eats chicken wings - he chomps them into pieces before he swallows them. If you are worried your dogs may eat them whole you could try whacking them with a hammer prior to feeding so they are already broken before your dog eats them.
- By MariaC [gb] Date 06.02.07 13:59 UTC
I have a golden retriever too and he chomps them before he swallows, I must admit I was worried when I first gave them to him whole and used to hold them, but, this wasn't very successful because as soon as he got hold of it he would snatch and gulp :eek:  he is so much better now we place them in his bowl, he takes one out at a time and chomps away :cool:

You could always mince them if you are worried - which is what we did when Jasper was very young :D :D
- By curly [gb] Date 06.02.07 14:56 UTC
My dog has chicken wings no problems.

I feed raw egg to my dog but not every day about twice a week shell included,When I started raw I tried one food at a time incase it did not agree with my dog
- By katja [gb] Date 09.02.07 17:54 UTC
Hi does anyone feed vitamin c
- By MariaC [gb] Date 09.02.07 18:29 UTC
I do - I add it to the veg/fruit mix!
Maria :)
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 09.02.07 18:33 UTC Edited 09.02.07 18:35 UTC
I don't because it's acidic and my breed needs to avoid acidic foods. It's not necessary because dogs manufacture their own vitamin C, and there are theories that supplementing it can cause problems.
- By Harley Date 09.02.07 19:31 UTC
I feed raw but don't add any supplements at all. :)
- By katja [gb] Date 10.02.07 15:00 UTC
hi
    I found this article worth a read http://www.workingdogs.com/doc0039.htm if you have a breed that is prone to hd
- By Isabel Date 10.02.07 15:07 UTC
I see no credentials for the author.  There is so much pseudo science on the internet that I don't really take any notice unless the author's credentials suggest I should.  The term 'Miracle cure" I find a particular turn off I'm afraid :)
- By jas Date 10.02.07 16:25 UTC
At least he put question marks after the 'miracle cure' bit. :) If these so called 'miracle cures' / supplements / diets really worked vets - and the rest of us - would know about them and using them would be standard operating procedure. :)
- By katja [gb] Date 12.02.07 13:35 UTC
I Must say i have read and taken advice of people with credentials and it has not been of much use, so to read what someone has gained by personal experience is quite interesting it does not mean we have to practice it.
- By MariaC [gb] Date 15.02.07 14:50 UTC
I have to agree with you on that Karen, the experts are not always right!  And in my opinion personal experience is the  'proof of the pudding' so to speak :cool:
- By katja [gb] Date 21.02.07 08:29 UTC
Hi i tried my lot with chicken carcases today 1of the collies refused, the other collie ate 1/2, my old cocker spaniel to my disbelieve ate the whole thing what a shock as he has never shown any interest in a bone ever, the other day he was choking on a chicken wing because he had not chewed it, it was not an issue with the bone it was just the laziness i did pull it out but i did leave it with him and bingo second time around he got it right (i do think if i had panicked and took it of him i would have thrown the whole lot away )  and my gsd ate 2 it did not take her too long either, the reduction in stool volume is amazing and they do seem more content karen
- By boxer_boo [gb] Date 21.02.07 12:32 UTC
Hi, Pleased to read you have started the change over to
BARF and that your pack seem on the whole to be taking
to it. In answer to feeding Vitamin C, one good source is
liver, it also contains all the B vits aswell as Fatty Acids
Omega 3 & 6. Brains are also rich in Vit C!!!!!!! I personally
try and stay away from supliments as everything the dogs
need can be found naturally in one food or another. ;-)
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 21.02.07 12:49 UTC
Dogs don't need vitamin C - they're one of the many species that manufacture it themselves. :) Any you give will simply be excreted in their urine.
- By boxer_boo [gb] Date 21.02.07 14:43 UTC Edited 21.02.07 14:55 UTC
Yes, they are capable of manufacturing some of their own
vitamin C. But that is not to say they should not be fed
food rich in vitamin C to ensure maximum intake of this
most essential and non-toxic vitamin.
Vit C like vit B will not be stored in the body and any not
required at the time will as Jeangenie correctly says
be "excreted in their urine".
The link Jeangenie has posted above is a little confusing,
it states "vitamin C is not "natural" for a dog's dietary intake"
However a dog in its "natural" habitat would devour the organ
meat from its prey, a "nutural" source of good
amounts of vit C:cool:
- By MariaC [gb] Date 21.02.07 15:52 UTC
From what I've read dogs cannot have too much vitamin c.  Apparently the only problem it could cause if they didn't pee it out would be the runs.   And there are times when extra vitamin c helps them - ie: stress, illness etc.
Topic Dog Boards / Feeding / Biting the bullet

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