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By Maiko
Date 04.09.02 00:01 UTC
A friend came by yesterday whom I hadn't seen almost all year. She told me they had just gotten rid of their dog cuz they couldn't handle it anymore. They brought Kaiser (mini dachshund) to the vet and said they had just found him wandering around. So sad. That's what happens when they let the dog get away with murder from day 1. He had absolutely no discipline, and I don't think they had much time for the dogs either. Then they brought in the dog psychologists and behaviourists to no avail, so then it was abandon the dog or get him put down. The other one's generally sweet natured so they didn't have the same problem with excessive barking and biting etc. but he's still pretty unruly.
I started feeling so protective over my little Nikki when she was here!
By westie lover
Date 04.09.02 05:09 UTC
Shame they didn't post here for help, they could have contacted Daschund rescue who could probably have re trained and re homed the poor dog. There are alternatives to abandonment or being pts
By eoghania
Date 04.09.02 05:19 UTC
Sad and very cowardly in my opinion :( :( :( Perhaps they just couldn't admit to anyone else that the couldn't control a 10-15 pound dog :rolleyes: They didn't even try to find a new home for him!!! Geesh

It's really not that difficult, especially for a small breed. I hope the vet does the right thing and contacts breed rescue. :)
toodles
By mattie
Date 04.09.02 11:24 UTC
Chances are that the Vet would ring rescue if they hadnt asked to witness the PTS.
It happens more often than people think we just recently rescued a four year old lab the Vets rang us they wouldnt put him to sleep so I would like to hope this Vet would do the same .
By Lara
Date 04.09.02 11:40 UTC
I have collected two young German Shepherds from my vet whose owners had brought them in for destruction. Both are still alive today :)
By Julieann
Date 04.09.02 11:58 UTC
No offence to anyone here:)
But if you get a dog it's down to you to train it love it and if the dog needs some help on the way then you get it via training classes etc. How and why does anyone take that road "oh dam dog etc" vets for Pts. Its wrong and very upsetting. :( But I surpose it's easy for me to say as I have never had any problems with my Molly?
Julieann
By eoghania
Date 04.09.02 13:35 UTC
Personally, I think most people do not realize the time and effort it takes to raise a good dog. I know many people who meet mine want "one just like them because they're so well behaved." :rolleyes: They don't understand that dogs don't come naturally trained out of puppyhood. The reasons people end up with a puppy/dog, aren't always for the best -- children want one, it's cute, it would be "fun" etc....
It might be similar to wanting a baby. Everyone is expected to have children. You're an oddball if you think and consider the issues first. Something around 65% of pregancies in the US are unplanned. Except for one thing ---- with a dog that's become troublesome, it's no big deal in our society to get rid of it. :( :( Kids, ya gotta keep, regardless :) :D :D
jmho
toodles
By Julieann
Date 04.09.02 13:42 UTC
Very true.
Julieann :(
By jackyjat
Date 04.09.02 14:48 UTC
very few problems with dogs - lots of problems with owners!
By Pammy
Date 04.09.02 15:03 UTC
Sara
I agree entirely. People see a well trained dog and think they come that way. I think it's where TV lets us down because I don't think they out across strongly enough just how much work goes into producing a well trained dog and that that training never stops.
I think one of the reasons I'm having problems with Jasper is because I let the training lapse and didn't spot quickly enough what was happening. I'm working on it now though and we'll make it better. People do need to know that training is not tell a dog once and that's it - it takes perseverance and continual praise and acknowledgement of good behaviour. But if things do go wrong - with effort things can be made better. Perhaps never perfect but better.
Pam n the boys

It's the same with children ...I had both of my youngest at the Health Clinic when they were aged 3 and 6 ...they behaved really well. I was told by the HEalth visitor that I was *lucky* to have such well behaved kids. I told her in no uncertain terms that *luck* had nothing to do with it , and that it was down to sheer hard work and perseverence ...her face was a picture ;)
Melody - Owner of typical naughty Thuggy who will not obey any commands :D
By eoghania
Date 04.09.02 19:08 UTC
Talk about a relapse in training....
Last night during dinner, hubby got up to get something in the kitchen. When he came back, he noticed that Samma was lying next to his feet, occasionally staring at him. She had snuck under the table sometime while we were eating.
I told her to "go to bed." She looks at me, then heads outside. Nope, entirely the wrong response and very deliberate too. I got up, walked outside, calmly picked her up, brought her back in, and put her in her bed. She wasn't happy at all. Such is life :rolleyes: Both dogs stayed there until I "released" them for their dinner.
Tonight, she automatically went into her bed as we sat down to eat, and both dogs waited for me to say it was ok to leave their spot :D :D :D Yep. reinforcement is necessary even in an 9 year old dog :)
toodles
By karenbutler21
Date 06.09.02 21:07 UTC
Gutted to read this. Some people don't know how lucky they are, i just lost my 4yr old GSD to an illness he was diagnosed with at 9months, it cost hundreds and hundreds of pounds to give him the best treatment and that was with health cover. This lady has thrown away a loving friend and companion for the sake of a little effort and attention. People should have to take tests and get a licence to keep a dog after all you have to do that just to drive a car!
By sabersam
Date 07.09.02 12:51 UTC
So sorry about your loss, at least you have the knowledge that you gave your shepherd all the love and attention, and your shepherd will have known this. The hard thing is that some people dont have any conscience or feeling about animals and people who really care are the ones who get hurt. I once heard a saying, "No sensitivity, No sense". I really think the 2 go hand in had in all aspects of life.
By Kash
Date 07.09.02 21:55 UTC
Kass is becoming quite a handful again jumping all over visitors wanting to lick them etc- it's mad and I hate it, she's too much for them being a GSD she's hardly small but you can be sure we'll sort it somehow. Under no circumstances would I ever dream of getting rid of her, it makes me cringe just to say that:( Some people eh:( :( :( Hopefully the dog in question will get sorted at the rescue and be paired up with a lovely family who want him for life and love him as much as I love Kass;)
Stacey x x x
By doogdog
Date 08.09.02 20:26 UTC
They went to behaviourist and were also referred to someone calling themselves a dog psychologist.
There is always an assessment, if both behaviourist and the other accepted the people as clients they can only mean that both the behaviourist and the other had assed that they could change the situation, which was the total relationship between dog and owners, they failed in their assessment and every other way, they therefore are as much to blame for the consequences and should refund for the service they charged for as it was unsatisfactory .
If I go to my doctor with a hip problem she would probably tell me she was not capable of dealing with and send me to someone who could.
By Maiko
Date 09.09.02 15:28 UTC
Apparently one of the behaviourists said to talk to the dog like it was a baby (lol) and another said to throw a chain on the ground to distract him.
By doogdog
Date 09.09.02 15:29 UTC
Yes Maiko, I would expect little else from them. How much did that profound knowledge cost may I ask?
By eoghania
Date 09.09.02 18:48 UTC
And these people just went ahead and paid for this info without complaining to a consumer agency or a lawyer???????

PT Barnum had it right: "There's a sucker born every minute" :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Oh well, you said they really didn't have the time or energy to put into the care of this dog. They basically proved it in the end. :( The behavioralists didn't tell them to dump the dog at a vet claiming it was a stray :( :( :( What ijiots!!!!

By patricia
Date 09.09.02 16:15 UTC
Feel very sad at that,One of mine is a complete lunatic hate people that take the easy way out just get the poor thing distroyed a dog .
Pat xx
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