Why is it that you can't show a dog that has been castrated?

You can :)

Providing the KC has been informed, there's nothing to stop you showing him :)

Whether you'll win or get placed is another matter altogether ;)

Debs

Well, you can technically show a neutered dog - but you'd never get anything with it :rolleyes:

Unfortunately every breed standard includes this ....
Note, Male animals should have two apparently normal testicles fully descended into the scrotum.

Until the KC get their act together and remove this note judges will continue to disregard castrated dogs.

I have to disagree with you there, Chaumsong.  I have won a CC with a neutered dog.  I did, however have, along with my "permission to show" letter from the KC, a letter from my vet saying that my dog had been entire before he was castrated.  He was already a champion, and he was entered in veteran so I really wasn't expecting it! 

However, having said that, I would probably only bother to enter in veteran classes with a neutered dog!

I have a friend with a neutered champion and he has won in veteran :)

But other than for medical reasons (and like my friend once the dog is past being used and needed to be castrated for his own sanity ) what would be the point in showing a castrated dog? showing is all about breeding from the best isnt it

I have seen a neutered dog win over an entire dog. I have just sent off the neutered dog form for my Yankee and might try him at a few more shows - he had a pathetic cottony coat as a youngster so never beat anything, but since the neutering the thickening of the coat that often occurs in spaniels has improved his coat no end! I mainly show my Cavs, but as my boy is about to retire, I don't see why I shouldn't take George along to a few open shows as well as my Cav girl. Just because he's not entire and isn't even particularly good show quality (though he has a lovely head and fantastic movement) doesn't mean I can't have a bit of fun trotting him round the ring. :-)

I agree with the person who said, what is the point in showing a castrated dog as it is about breeding from the best stock, but I feel that the KC rules should deffinatley be changed as some full males are a night mare!!!!!! and it would open the show ring up to more dogs even though they could never be bred.

I hope the KC never take the testicles entry out of any breed standard.  IMO the main function of a show is to find the dog closest to the breed standard and then the breeders can see if they can get even closer to that standard via the dogs' offspring. 

I know it's a improbability, but if the KC allowed neutered dogs to be shown without it being considered a fault, you could theoretically end up with a large class of Champion males all looking glorious and showing their socks off, with not a testicle between them!  What would be the point in advertising your breeding through these dogs, the lines of which then couldn't be continued on the sires' side because all the males had been cut?  As I said, very inlikely but not impossible if neutered males were judged on an equal footing to entire dogs.

After all, if it's just the fun of showing people are after and not the winning, there's nothing at all to stop them showing a neutered male :)

Debs

I can't understand why they don't have neuter classes like for cats. With separate titles etc, never competing against each other (apart from possible for BIS). There can be all sorts of reasons for why a male needs to be neutered, just like with bitches but in a bitch it will never be obvious and so a spayed bitch will have a huge advantage over a neutered dog. Look at that Sheltie that was Reserve BIS at Crufts one year -had she been a dog she'd never have gone that far, yet she was spayed.

One of my Champion cats developed pyometra fairly recently and had to have an emergency spay, I never got any kittens from her :( but am now looking forward to starting again and getting her Premier title. :) The way I see it is if it has my prefix on, it's still a good advert for what I've bred, neutered or not.

Not a Munster friend is it ClaireyS?

how did you guess

ok, she is my only friend :rolleyes: