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Topic Other Boards / Foo / Horse Rescue
- By Moonmaiden Date 21.11.06 12:22 UTC
Get your tissues ready just been sent it
- By Carla Date 21.11.06 12:32 UTC
Links not working for me. Is it the one where they ride out to rescue them across the water? It was lovely to see - till I found out they (allegedly) went for meat after :( Realistic, but a sting in the tail of the story :(
- By Moonmaiden Date 21.11.06 12:38 UTC
This is the BBC Story-no mention of them being slaughtered afterwards & the BBC is usually quick to pick up on things like thart
- By Carla Date 21.11.06 12:59 UTC
I didn't get it off the news. I got it straight from the horses mouth - so to speak.
- By Moonmaiden Date 21.11.06 13:07 UTC
You got the information from the Netherlands direct from the farmer that owned the horses ? Is he being prosecuted then ? Why have you only put allegedly if you have been told directly ?
- By Carla Date 21.11.06 13:13 UTC
Why would he be prosecuted - Holland is one of the biggest consumers of horse meat :confused:

I knew I shouldnt have bothered replying to this :rolleyes: Bye MM, have a nice day.
- By Moonmaiden Date 21.11.06 13:16 UTC
:rolleyes: read the story over the death's of the horses that drowned-so where did your information come from then ?

You shouldn't post statements if you can't back them up

So the Dutch eat horsemeat do you eat meat from pigs, cattle, chicken ?
- By dapple [gb] Date 21.11.06 15:46 UTC
I think it was a wonderful story, if you have information about what happened to the horses then post up the links for all to see. I think MoonMaiden was saying if you got it from the farmer then is he being prosecuted for failing to move the horses to higher ground when advised of the storm?
I did think at the end where the last few went in deeper water that they may be in trouble especially the baby but all good at the end. I'd have felt the same if it had been a herd of cattle.
- By LJS Date 21.11.06 12:38 UTC
Wonderful :cool: I saw this on the news.

Shame about the 18 that didn't make it :(
- By zarah Date 21.11.06 14:27 UTC
Fantastical! The little one near the end that almost went right under :eek: but then popped back up again :D

The music was really fitting I thought.

Gallop free the ones that didn't make it..
- By hevGsd [gb] Date 21.11.06 14:34 UTC
awww good job you warned me about getting tissues!
- By Isabel Date 21.11.06 15:46 UTC
The music certainly hightened the emotion :)  Does anyone know which Vangelis track that was? Is it Voices?
- By satincollie (Moderator) Date 21.11.06 16:31 UTC
Hi Isabel its Conquest of Paradise from the sound track of 1492
- By Isabel Date 21.11.06 16:32 UTC
Thanks for that :)
- By JaneG [gb] Date 21.11.06 15:28 UTC
What a lovely story, horrible to see them all stranded on that tiny island though - I'm glad the owner will be prosecuted.
- By LindaMorgan [gb] Date 21.11.06 16:29 UTC
why is there always someone that like to spoil something brilliant and heart lifting.  i'm glad they made it out.
- By JaneG [gb] Date 21.11.06 16:55 UTC
I hope I haven't spolied anything Linda??? :confused:
- By Harley Date 21.11.06 17:13 UTC
That was very emotional - glad to see so many survived their ordeal.
- By HuskyGal Date 21.11.06 17:04 UTC
Thank-you MoonMaiden :)
I absolutely appreciated that, and the spirit of the women and their mounts who rode out..
Excercising my Horses out on Morcambe Bay (going across to piel Island) I know only too well the dangers that were involved there to all, they made it look effortless but it took a heck of alot of bottle and compassion I'll bet.
amazing.....
(Im now off to get some Jon&Vangelis on itunes!... and kleenex)
- By kayc [in] Date 21.11.06 22:48 UTC
dont often get 'choked up'... but this did a 1st class job.. wonderful ... the music killed me
- By sinnertoo [gb] Date 21.11.06 22:54 UTC
Sorry i dont wish to take sides on this but i actually read on the Kelly marks/Monty Roberts site that the horses were later slaughtered, now if this is true or not i have no idea.
The site concerned is www.intelligenthorsemanship.com and if you search for the thread im sure youll find it there.
I hope you are all right and the poor horses went on to a lovely life but thats not what i read either.
But it was a lovely video and great to see people helping these poor animals.
- By CherylS Date 21.11.06 23:27 UTC
It doesn't matter to me whether or not they were destined for slaughter.  What is important to me is that all animals in the care of humans are treated kindly and respectfully.  The thing I admire about "Jimmy's Farm" is the obvious respect for the pigs even though they are bred for meat.  As one who eats meat I would far rather eat from an animal that has been treated with care than one that has suffered. 

As far as eating horses is concerned it is purely a cultural thing.  There is little difference between eating horse meat or beef (apart from the taste :P), it's all to do with which culture you are raised in as to whether you agree with it or not.  There is no right or wrong, just different.
- By Lindsay Date 22.11.06 09:15 UTC
I understand that view but can't accept (for myself) that it's OK  to kill and eat an animal that may have been a riding pony or whatever. An animal that's basically trusted humans and been probably part of the/a family. Isn't it like a betrayal? If it's OK to eat a horse then is it OK to eat a companion dog? Or a pet guinea pig? Or a cat? ...(I know this does happen to both animals in some cultures, but again I just could not stomach it! )

I know others will differ but it's my view and I'll never change it :D

Lindsay
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- By Val [gb] Date 22.11.06 09:21 UTC
If it's OK to eat a horse then is it OK to eat a companion dog? Or a pet guinea pig? Or a cat?

I can't disagree with the logic of that at all.  It just doesn't fit in with my way of thinking, just like when I was in Hong Kong nearly 30 years ago and they wanted to serve monkey brains - live.  Different cultures have different values and some don't fit comfortably with me at all.  But then nor do many of things that go on in this country either! :(
- By CherylS Date 22.11.06 09:40 UTC Edited 22.11.06 09:42 UTC
Yours is a sentimental viewpoint and quite understandable.  However, it's the previous 'pet' owners that have allowed the horses to end up this way by not ensuring that they go to another 'pet' home.  I couldn't eat a pet and my mum once told me about how horrified she was the time her favourite hen (Specklety) wasn't around to be fed only to find her on the plate that Sunday lunch:eek: 

Any animal that has been treated properly will show trust of humans whether they are horses or sheep.  Personally I don't really see the difference in eating horse to sheep or chickens in my head but as humans we do become emotionally attached to particular animals in our own care.

You could argue that the sheep raised on the hills of Cumbria who roam free for much of their lives have a better existence than many ponies and horses who have to work for theirs. 
- By Carla Date 22.11.06 23:09 UTC
I just bought myself an Icelandic Horse. Over there they are treated with the utmost respect, but ones that don't make the grade are eaten. I have no problem with that, nor the raising of horses for slaughter when they are slaughtered in humane circumstances and looked after well and raised properly. However, these were left in conditions that should have been avoidable - and apparently the owner has been in trouble before. It should never have happened and it shouldn't have taken those women to risk their necks to save them.
- By JaneG [gb] Date 22.11.06 23:21 UTC
ooooo oooooo oooooo an icelandic, you've got your Icelandic? How exciting - what age/colour/sex/height etc etc.. can you start a new thread about it :D :D 
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