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Topic Dog Boards / Feeding / Diarrhoea due to food?
- By aishling [gb] Date 01.11.06 15:18 UTC
Both my puppies have had diarrhoea for the past 2 weeks.  I have a Westie of 5.5 months and a gsd of 3 months.  I searched on here and decided to try tinned Chappie.  I fed just this for their 3 meals then next morning feed aswell.  As their poos had firmed up within 12 hours I decided to reintroduce the jwb puppy dried food which is their normal food so i mixed this in with the chappie for afternoon and evening meal on day 2.  Day 3 just gave the dried food again and diarrhoea has returned :rolleyes:  Had mentioned this to the vet before about the westie and she had no solutions at the time.  So it does seem to be food related should i just continue mixing in the chappie and see how that goes or is a change of food in order?  I really can't afford anything more expensive than jwb which i think Arden Grange and Burns are.  Any suggessions? 
- By Isabel Date 01.11.06 15:22 UTC
What about trying the dried form of Chappie?  I understand this is, generally, well tolerated too.
- By aishling [gb] Date 01.11.06 18:33 UTC
Would this be a suitable food as they are still puppies? I have only ever seen an adult version in the shops.  I could try the westie on it as she would be changing over to adult food soon anyway.  Do you think it would be ok for the younger pup though?
- By Isabel Date 01.11.06 18:43 UTC
I'm not sure to be honest.  You could try contacted them for advise on that.  Is there an advise line number on the tins?
- By LindaMorgan [gb] Date 01.11.06 21:54 UTC
Why does nobody use pedigree, this was what my vet advised
- By Teri Date 01.11.06 22:31 UTC
IME Pedigree has always been too strong for my dogs - gives them upset tums and terrible wind problems.   I regularly off-load their freebies as it's just not worth using on mine and I know oodles of others who have dogs experiencing similar problems.

Of course it must suit lots of others - look at all that advertising boasting tip-top condition ;)
- By Isabel Date 01.11.06 22:33 UTC
I believe we have a few posters that use the dry varieties.  Tins do not seem very popular these days perhaps because of the convenience and storage factors.  At the end of the day any food may suit your dog where another will not.
- By SharonM Date 02.11.06 10:27 UTC
With my last litter we tried pedigree puppy pouches, just a tiny bit and it completely scoured them, they had bad upset tummies for a week, my vet told me to avoid using it again. 

Wouldn't touch Pedigree now if it was given to me.
- By jas Date 05.11.06 14:05 UTC
My dogs have always had the runs on Pedigree tins. I've never tried the dry Pedigree.
- By Teri Date 01.11.06 22:29 UTC
Why not stick with the tinned Chappie for a bit and see how they go - if they are OK on this for now I wouldn't be too quick to rock the boat, especially with young sensitive tums :)

As Isabel suggested, the dry variety may turn out to be OK for them too but personally I'd want to give them at least a couple of weeks longer on a food that has so far not upset them at all before even considering adding treats never mind changing diet completely.

JWB, Arden Grange etc wont necessarily suit both or even one of your dogs - I think it better to play safe for a bit, particularly at their delicate ages.  Should you decide to switch over to a preferred brand or mix, introduce the new food more slowly than normal recommendations - perhaps over a two/three week period as a minimum.

HTH, Teri :) 
- By aishling [gb] Date 01.11.06 23:16 UTC
The only problem is that the tinned chappie I have been using is also adult food.  Just worried that they won't be getting proper nutrients if not on puppy food. Would the adult jwb be different from the puppy one as could try that instead with the westie (as she is older).  Would prefer them on a dry diet if possible. 
- By Jwilson [gb] Date 02.11.06 09:06 UTC
i feed mine tinned chappie and he's never been healthier. he also had runny tums on dried food but the chappie has sorted that out. its no dearer than dried food so i would say to keep them on it.
years ago tinned food was all you could get and thousands of puppies were fed on this without problems. it wont harm them.
- By Teri Date 02.11.06 10:08 UTC
Ditto Jwilson on that :)  Tinned Chappie is a complete food that's been doing the rounds for decades, long before separate dry feeds for umpteen size, age, shape, ailment and breed of dog were invented ;)   It's more important to find a food that your dogs enjoy eating and enjoy good health on - for the moment with yours that appears to be tinned Chappie and, as stated, as their young ages were it me, I'd rather my dogs were getting daily nutrients which stayed in their bodies long enough and didn't irritate their tums or bowels when waste matter was expelled.

regards, Teri
- By Ktee [us] Date 02.11.06 12:15 UTC
    >Would this be a suitable food as they are still puppies?<

I would not feed dry chappie to a growing pup,the fat and protein levels are too low for adult dogs IMO,letta lone  young dogs. Ingredients aside,i mean,their claim to fame is using "highly nutritious wheat and maize",no mention of meat :rolleyes: Tinned chappie does have it's place as a convalescent food,but i would only feed it on a short term basis until the underlying problem was sorted,and only if homecooked wasnt an option,not as a regular part of a dogs forever diet.

    >I really can't afford anything more expensive than jwb which i think Arden Grange and Burns are.<

Ahh but you have to feed less of a food such as arden grange prestige as it is a denser food than jwb and perhaps the puppy formula too(not too sure).The only way to know for sure is to ring the manufacture and find out the k/cals per cup,you cant compare prices on a per bag basis only.

For example you may have to feed 3 cups per day of a lesser quality cheap food,but only 1 1/2 cups of a more expensive(at first glance) nutritionally dense food,so even though the second food 'seems' more expensive you have to feed far less of it than the cheaper food,so you'll probably end up even or sometimes better off,there are many more things to consider other than the final price at the checkout.

I dont mean to be a food nazi ;) I have very high standards when it comes to feeding my pets,and i love to share the information i learn along the way,and i could honestly talk about nutrition and the pro's and con's there of forever :eek: :D

With all the hazards our pets have to face on a daily basis,eg vaccs,flea/worm/HW meds,environmental pollution,and many other things beyond our control,the very least and also one of the easiest things we can do for them is give them the best possible nutrition we can,and no matter what the manufacture's of these foods say,feeds  containing mostly  wheat,maize,rice etc could not be further from an appropriate canine diet.Unfortunately manu's who's foods contain more wheat,maize,by products and artificial colourings and preservatives than anything else dont,i feel, have the best interests of the dogs eating their foods at heart.They take advantage of the fact that dogs are born scavengers and can survive on just about anything,they are a really easy species to maintain nutrition wise.However there is a difference between maintaining,surviving and thriving.

Anyways sorry for ranting and veering off topic :) I can only advise to perhaps look into why your dogs digestion is so sensitive,perhaps allergies are involved or the bowels,digestive enzymes etc are'nt functioning correctly,or simply one or more ingredients in JWB doesnt agree ,not ALL dogs do well on rice ;) If your dog is intolerant of grains they will most likely irritate the lining of the gut and produce inconsistent stools.
- By Isabel Date 02.11.06 14:37 UTC Edited 02.11.06 14:40 UTC

>feeds  containing mostly  wheat,maize,rice etc could not be further from an appropriate canine diet.


Demonstrably untrue in the case of my dogs and many, many others.  In fact, for all of mine grain diets have proved to be the only ones that have suited them and that's in the very long term ie over 15 years in the case of my terrier :)  If that's surviving it'll do for me :)
As these two have done well on Chappie I think we can logically say they are not intolerant to, at least, the grains used in that.
- By Blue Date 02.11.06 12:43 UTC
In my experience little breeds like Westies do very well on Lower proteined food. Chappie and Butchers tripe.

If I ever get a dog to trim that is having any sort of itching or iritable in anyway I tell them to try Butchers tripe.
- By Isabel Date 02.11.06 14:34 UTC
Yes, Butchers tripe, and indeed their other varieties, were a success with my "tender tummied" one.
- By Lori Date 02.11.06 16:19 UTC
Not saying to switch but Arden Grange is cheaper than the online prices I just found for JWB if you buy direct from them.
- By jennyrose79 [gb] Date 04.11.06 22:07 UTC
Ok, being dumb here.  I'm new to all this and I don't know what JWB is???  :confused:
- By supervizsla Date 04.11.06 22:25 UTC
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