Rescue slaughter greyhounds

Thats absolutely disgusting

Makes me sick,those poor dogs,how can someone who has trained these greyhounds ,who spends most of their time with them allow them to end their lives like this for the sake of a couple of quid they would rather take their poor dogs here than a vet

Even worse, that its a sanctuary thats doing it!!

If it's true, it's disgusting.  However, the sanctuary have denied the story as it appears in the Times.  Have a look at this current report on the BBC news website here

I wonder what will happen to the dogs now? :( 
Personally if there is no prospect of a sensible home, which in many cases there will not be due to the enormous numbers of greyhounds produced every year being put to sleep in a sanctuary seems a far better bet than some of the arrangement the owners might make :rolleyes:  However, as so often happens the Animal Rights Extremists have forced things the way they wish with their usual, less than democratic, methods.:rolleyes:

I disagree :) According to the staff in the Times article the dogs are PTS in the chest without a vet being present, by lethal injection.
Let the greyhound owners and trainers donate some to the cash to the rescue services, and if the dog really cannot be rehomed at least ensure it is PTS properly by a trained professional!

The report talks of firing drugs into the chest.  I have never heard of such a method so can't help but wonder how acurate it is.  I agree, though, they should be put to sleep humanely although I doubt that would be enough to keep the ALF from the doors.

If a dog's circulation isn't good enough, usually in older dogs, then a Vet will inject straight into the heart.  Sometimes a Vet even has difficulty finding the heart, as happened (7 attempts to draw blood from the chest and still not successful) when I took a neighbours dog to be put to sleep earlier this year.  It took more than 20 minutes from the first try at finding a vein to the dog stopping breathing. :(

talks of firing drugs into the chest is rather emotional wording for something that is not uncommon practice for a Vet. :(

If they are talking about using a cardiac needle my understanding is that is a pretty effect method of euthanasia.  My friend's JR was put to sleep in this way as his circulating system had shut down.  The vet asked if she wanted to leave but as she is a nursing sister she thought she would see it through.  The dog went very quickly, perhaps it's easier in a little dog.  Searching for a vein is sometimes also protracted and stressfull for the dog.  The vet told her it was a method that would be more commonly used if it was not for the fact that owners would find it so distressing.  

Each case is different.  My neighbour's dog was also a Jack Russell (would be with a name like Nipper! ;)  There was no nurse available, just the Vet, me, who is very used to helping and the owner, who didn't want to let go.  I tried to encourage the owner to wait outside because I  knew that it wouldn't be straighforward but he wanted to stay.

I was able to encourage the young Vet, who I couldn't fault because I couldn't find the heart either! :( and reassure the owner, who came away quite satisfied, but it certainly wasn't a text book job.

If someone who didn't understand what was happening and why, had seen that sort of euth, which dies happen occassionally, then maybe they would use emotional language.

I think saying injected into the heart is emotional enough for most people :) 

I do too. :)

Sometimes it can be the only option with small animals and puppies too.  Impossible to find a tiny vein, even with a cat needle.  It's a matter of doing the best job possible within the limitations thrown at us and caring about what's being done! :(

I know someone who has rescued a dog from this sanctuary, and she was very glad he was got out... people who have been involved in rescue for a very long time have not trusted Leigh Sanctuary for (as far as I can gather) many months. I understand that many dogs are put to sleep, and owners and others told they will have their 7 days etc and that this doesn't happen - basically many aspects of the running of the sanctuar appear underhand, questionable, etc and is not the way an animal sanctuary should be run (from what i gather).

I would take with a pinch of salt the references to animal rights activists....these days they are a dirty word, but in my day (!) we saved the whale and all that, and we were still called "animal rights protestors" :P

Seriously, I'd not necessarily believe anyone from Leigh sanctuary whinging about nasty phone calls and threats - we only have their word for it after all. Whereas there has definitely been something dodgy going on at the premises, which we should (in my view) be more concerned about.

Lindsay
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Doesn't sound good! :(

>we only have their word for it after all 

Hearsay cuts both ways Lindsay ;)  Let's hope they are now investigated properly. 
There has always been respectable animal welfare groups but they are not the sort of people that would make threatening  phone calls.  Likewise there were always extremists when we were saving the whales.  I don't really have any difficultiss in believing that, rightly or wrongly, they have received these sort of calls.

I wouldnt think the Times would print without evidence - and they seem to have statements from ex staff members - and they called the receptionist who told them to just bring the young dogs in to be PTS!

I'm not doubting they euthanase the dogs.

The previous Times investigation has resulted in three people being"warned"off(Banned to you & me)greyhound racing & they would not have printed the story without the proof-they aren't the Sunday Sport etc

I know genuine rescue people in the area who frequently "liberate"dogs from there to rehome

I just think that it's easy for LAS to become the poor victims in this. I'm far too cynical, sorry!

I agree there are always a few extremists, but that really shouldn't be allowed to detract from the real issues here.  Apparently it's been business as usual for LAS today, so they are hardly terrified for their lives...

Lindsay
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So, if a vet struggles, are we to assume that a layperson doing this procedure could make things far worse for the dog?

In certain circumstances................. :(  I didn't honestly think that a lay person was allowed to put an animal to sleep?   

But then it wasn't THAT long ago that the RSPCA were putting dogs in cabinets and attaching electrodes to their ears ............... :(

The Electrocution cabinets were horrific The animals had their brains fried just like the electric chair because it was cheaper than the vet & just like this report they operators were unqualified kennel staff. My vets will try everything not to have to inject into the heart if they cannot get a vein up

Possibly, but if they do it regularly their knowledge of the anatomy is likely to become rather better isn't it? 

I suppose it could be likened to human death in an electric chair, which I have never considered to be humane, but that's what humans do and did. :(

In what way would it be like the electric chair?   I would say it is very much more like an injection to a vein.  From my understanding of anatomy there are no nerve receptors in the heart it should not be any more uncomfortable than going through the surface area of skin, where the nerves are, in the leg.  I thought you had been agreeing that it was perfectly legitimate method of euthanasia, just not for the squeamish.

putting dogs in cabinets and attaching electrodes to their ears

I was told that the idea of the electrodes was to conduct electricity! :(  I'm glad that I didn't see the cabinet in use. :(  Thankfully times have changed for dogs if not humans. :(  I also prefer shooting to electricity.  I consider any humane way to put an animal to sleep is preferable to them living their days in kennels with little human contact, free running, treats and all the other things that make a dog's life worthwhile and what they have been used to.

I have no problem with heart injections if necessary.  Most Vets would heavily sedate the dog first anyway, but not all owners understand and as they are in an emotional state at the time and so they're not always receptive.  Luckily my neighbour trusted my experience and all was well.

Yes now I see your edit I see where the electrocution issue has come in although I don't know why  
I don't think it has to be a vet that puts an animal to sleep by whatever method.  As I understand it, all the laws demands is that it is done without unnecessary suffering.

I was told by 'The Ratman' that he wasn't allowed to despatch a rat anymore which I would have thought was more humane that internal bleeding?  I don't know.

The council ratmen still shoot rats if necessary there was a documentary on I think Glasgow council's pest control officers in action including despatching rats by shooting them

My council Ratman didn't have a gun.  I think that he was talking about a spade. ;)

I think that may have been where he was going adrift from the recognised humane methods :D

lol these guys had one of thos as well ;) they were very effective which ever method they used

Instant and humane as far as I am concerned. :)

Not necessarily.. I think I preferred the irish guy who shot them.

I don't have any issues about shooting either when done efficiently.