I read an older topic on here recently which i found on google about a person whos puppy was passing blood in its stool. Replies had been frozen so i could not post there. I recently befriended a cocker spaniel called Molly she is 16 weeks old and we'v had her for 6 days. Sunday night she erm, opened her bowels on our bathroom floor (early days in the toilet training!) and there was a small drop of blood at the end of her stool. We were concerned and i came online to research, but found a site where someone said it happened once but then their dog was ok. So we waited to see if it would happen again, yesterday she went again and this time instead of at the end of the stool there was blood at the beginning. I figured perhaps there was just a bit of blood in her system and she hadnt passed it all. Early this morning, about 4am ish, she was sick, there wasnt any blood etc just a bit of food. Today there was another drop in her stool and then later she passed afew drops on its own on a puppy pad.

We took her to the vets, they have suggested alot of what was in the post i read on here this morning, it could be a virus, a bug, or perhaps she ate something that has caused a bit of trouble in her system. He suggested perhaps she was being overfed or had an alergic reaction etc and he gave her some anti biotics and some "Pro Kolin" with kaolin in for her tummy. He assured us she should be ok etc and we took her home.

Anyway, sorry for the long windedness of this, i just didnt want to leave something out. So the vet gave her some anti biotics via injection and then gave us some tablets to give to her later. We gave her some Kaolin like prescribed and she was fine. But come lunch time today she has been really lethargic and tired, we were eating right next to her and she didnt even try to beg for scraps, which she is prone to doing constantly when we are eating despite how much we try and teach her not to. She isnt being playfull and doesnt really want to do anything she was just walking around slowly then having a sleep. I rang the vet n he said she is probably just feeling sorry for herself after being to the vets etc and that if she doesnt improve bring her back. I was wondering if anyone has had the same thing happen where all this has happened and then their dog was sad or sleepy, or if the problem isnt a stomach bug but something more serious or if she has 2 issues instead of just the one.

Sorry for the long post, iv had a pup before and had no problems so now im worrying more about Molly because blood cant be a good sign!! Im sure if it was serious the vet would of been concerned but i figure you guys may know more as everything he told me earlier id already learned from this site! (Which by the way i must thank you all for as thats 1 of the reasons i signed up!)

Thanks, hope you can help :)

I have never had a dog go off food because it went to the vet :-D

But.......... it is more than possible that the antibiotics the pup has had, has made her a little sleepy and tired. The Pro Kolin is to stop her from having any sickness or diarrhoea and the antibiotics will destroy any virus causing the blood spotlets, which are more common than you may think.

So just see how she is tonight, hopefully she will eat before bed time, some chicken or mince with rice may go down really well about now for her.

Of course if she should become even more lethargic get her straight to the vet, but I would think it is just the antibiotics and she will be running around happily tomorrow. :-)

I think you were right :) she seems much better at the moment!  Thank you!!

Where did you get her from?  Was she lively when you got her?  Has she been vaccinated?  What are you feeding her?

Sorry for all the questions but they help to make up the picture. :)

We bought her from a pet shop, not actually in the shop mind you, the woman who owns it was selling her on the side as a breader. She was lively but not crazy just average really. She has had her first vaccination twice but not the second bit yet, the breaders vet did 1 then my vet did it again :rolleyes: i forget the puppy food she is ons name off hand, but its one the breader said she has been eating, we have enough to last a while i keep meaning to phone her and ask what the name was so i know which food to buy. (Although the vet said perhaps change her diet as it could be that)

Sorry pet shop sets alarms ringing!  Did she have any other breeds of dogs?  Did you see at least the mother?  Did you see the rest of the litter?

The shop was selling other breeds yes, but Molly wasnt being sold in the shop we asked if she knew any CS breeders and she said she said she was one and went home to get hers for us to choose from (there were 2) We didnt see the mother but we have her family tree written down, not that it really helps i guess right?

None of this bodes well, I'm afraid.  I would take her back to the Vet if she doesn't pick up quickly.  Pups don't take long to go downhill. :(

The vet didnt seem too worried on the phone, but he did say bring her back if we thought she was getting worse. So far shes getting better :) Thanks for replying.

I do hope Molly picks up soon and I do hope you haven't bought yourself a pup with health problems only I don't know any reputable breeder who would sell a pup in a shop, I'm afraid. Is she KC registered and did you meet either of her parents? Sorry to sound so negative but I'm another one who is hearing several alarm bells ringing here! I'm also not quite sure how you don't know what you are feeding her since I'd have assumed you would come home with written details about this and other important things like her worming schedule.

Hey, she has picked up considerably, playfull and chirpy. We have notes of her worming details, she was wormed the day we got her and flea sprayed.  She isnt KC registered and we didnt meet her parents but we have a family tree that goes back 3 generations.  She was selling jack russels and another bread i do not know the name of.  Iv seen other dogs in there in the past thats why we went there as we thought they would have some pups for sale. For the record Molly wasnt being sold in the shop, as we were leaving i asked if she knew any cocker spaniel breaders and she said she had 2 pups for sale n if we came back in an hour she would go get them so we did.

Iv gone and got her notes from the cupboard (i didnt know she wrote the food on there :rolleyes:), shes on Beta Puppy. Under "Kennel Club Number" she wrote "Pet Only" the breeders name is on the form and she is the lady we bought Molly from.

Anywho right now she seems normal. Will post again if she starts getting worse instead of better. The vet thinks shes fine and has given us some anti biotics etc to be sure. Im thinking shes probably fine but keeping a very close eye on her!!

Thanks.

I'm very pleased that she is getting back to her normal self and I am sure if she did not look healthy that the vet would have been quick to point anything out, whilst she was being innoculated she will have had a very thorough health check.

I'm very, very, happy that she has a loving home and am very pleased that you have her, but you probably will get some concerned posts as this is not a reputable breeder that you have bought her from we would have happily pointed out all that you needed to know health and breeder wise, whether a dog is for show, working or a pet, it should still be KC registered, reasons for not being registered usually come under the more dubious and the woman should have invited you to meet pups and mum together.

But, hopefully all is well with your pup, Cocker pups are so lovely my mother has a lovely little pack of them :-) If you have any other worries or questions please get back to us.

I never knew that about KC registered pups, should i phone her and ask why she wasnt KC registered? She made it sound like because she wasnt going to be a show dog or anything it wasnt "neccesary" We figured the reason we didnt see Mum and Pup together was because she was 16 weeks old. Im wondering now though if she bought the pups from a breeder and was selling them on, she mentioned getting back what she had paid which at the time she made sound like she meant cash spent on food and medical etc for raising them from birth.

Overall this shouldnt have any effects on Molly though right? I dont have to be concerned that shes going to be an unhealthy pup for life or anything? Obviously all dogs get ill and she will get sick in future but if the woman is not treating puppys right and they are all having horrible lives id want to inform somebody about her asap so it doesnt happen again!

>Overall this shouldnt have any effects on Molly though right?

To be honest, unless you you know that both parents and all four grandparents had passed all the breed-relevent tests for hereditary conditions, your guess is as good as ours. :( Cockers, like most other breeds, are prone to several hereditary conditions (including several eye conditions which can sadly lead to early blindness), most of which don't show up for some time. Hopefully she'll be all right, but it would be sensible to insure her.

Done today :) shes fully Insured. Her sister had odd eyes from birth, one blue one brown so there was something in their genes at least. Well i guess its a matter of waiting and seeing what fate has in store for little Molly now then! Me and my partner are really caring about her so she is in good hands. I think we have become a "dog couple" hehe obsessed already!!

She still has blood in her stool today! :( Only a little bit though, should it of stopped in a day or will it take a little while before it goes away? Shes on anti-biotics and kaolin for the next week or so which i guess is a sign the vet thought it would be a few days. Just wanna check no one else had their dog clear up straight away.

I'm so glad little Molly has a good loving home where she will be cared for and given all the love in the world. She is one of the lucky ones. It sounds as though this pet shop owner has bought these two pups in from somebody who has been unable to sell them due to the fact that they are not KC registered and this being so, were obviously not bred by a reputable breeder. She probably bought them quite cheaply with an eye to making a profit. Even though it says on the pedigree that she is the breeder, if the puppies are not KC registered, people can put what they like on the pedigree. You have already probably spent quite a bit at the vets, so even if you didn't pay what you would have paid from a good breeder, she may end up costing you more in the long run, not that money is an issue in a case like this but people often do go to less reputable places for puppies simply because they are cheaper. They're cheaper for a reason, the breeder has cut corners feeding the bitch and rearing the puppies and has not had to fork out for KC registration. No reputable breeder would worm a puppy on the day it goes to its new home. What was she wormed with. If it was too strong or she was given too much that could explain the bleeding.

>Overall this shouldnt have any effects on Molly though right? I dont have to be concerned that shes going to be an unhealthy pup for life or anything?

I seriously hope not because she sounds like a lovely little girl and I'm so glad she's found such a loving home with you.

However, as Saxon says there is always a reason why a purebred dog isn't KC registered when you'd expect it to be and the reason is often down to disreputable or irresponsible breeding.  Cockers can suffer from a range of health problems and the likelihood of any of these conditions presenting is all the greater if there are question marks about parentage and the lack of proper papers. Of course it may be that you haven't actually bought a cocker spaniel at all but a pup that's been crossed and looks mostly like a cocker spaniel!

That this woman had Jack Russells for sale too rings those old alarm bells and I wonder where she's claiming they came from!  Jack Russells are not recognised by the KC and they seem to be particularly popular with puppy farmers.

Woohoo, after a few days of worry n waiting, Molly seems fully back to normal! Thanks for all your help and advice :)

Great news! :-)

Glad to hear it :)

Great news, may she go from strength to strength now. :-)

I'm glad that she seems a lot better, but that type of person isn't someone that a pup should be brought from.  Nobody should ever buy a puppy without seeing the mother at the very least.