Hi

someone is selling 'Timberwolf' cross pups ,  don't want to give him any advertising. Isn't this illegal? Can we do anything about it?

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If they really are, and often people just make it up, then yes, a dangerous wild animal license would be needed and the animals could never leave the owner's premises, even for walks. I guess you could try contacting DEFRA.
This tells you everything:

DEFRA on wolfdogs

Is there time for you to edit your post and remove any mention of what site they're on, replacing the name with "another site"? Otherwise you're still advertising them by telling people where to look ...

Thanks, has been edited for me! Will contact DEFRA, I got his name and address from the advert, so hope he can expect a visit soon!

May be worth an email to the 'place' advertising,I'm quite sure they edit ads, as you often see they delete peoples phone no's etc....
Good Luck, and good job :)

Well done Husky - hopefully it's not the real McCoy they're advertising but either way a visit from the authorities with any luck should put paid to it!

Good on you :)

I wouldn't think that you will get a reply from the place advertising..........
I have sent them two fairly strong e-mails in the last few days and haven't had a reply to either.........
They make out they are against puppy farming etc, and ask for evidence, but then do nothing about it.....
A site to be avoided I think :-(

Gabrielle x

Yes the site is terrible, there are some well known puppy farmers on there all the time and they do nothing about it.

Thanks for the very interesting DEFRA link, makes really good reading! I gather from it that the local authorities are the ones who implement the act, so I have informed the relevant local authority about the ad.

I very much doubt there is any wolf in them though, in which case Trading Standards is my next port of call!

Well, just got an instant reply from the Local Authority : -

Many thanks for your e-mail.  I have today (2nd) passed a copy of you information to our Environment section.  I am sure someone will be able to deal with the matter shortly.



Best wishes,



SARA TUCKER

CONTACT US CO-ORDINATOR

I'm impressed with that!

Fantastic!  These sorts of ads, whether the content is true or not, have to be nipped in the bud and we should all do what we can when we see them to raise the profile with the appropriate authorities :)

Great result!  Teri

When I was at the Vet's two weeks ago a man came in with a dog that really, really looked like a timeberwolf.  This is in Ontario, Canada.  The man had had his dog up north at his cottage, in an area where there are wild TW, and it had a broken leg.  Why in the world would anyone subject their pet to a climate where there is still a bounty on TW, and people shoot, trap, and maim them even if there isn't?  Back home in the south most people would be afraid of it.  To protect it you could never ever let it off leash and I am guessing it is a high energy animal that needs to run.  It was called an American Indian Dog.  It did not look like any dogs I've seen in paintings or old photos of North American aboriginals, it looked like a TW.  Especially the head but the eyes were not yellow.  When my OH was still a conservation officer someone would be investigating that animal to be sure there was no native Ontario TW blood in it.

I've been contacted by a few American Indian dogs owners in regards to their special vocalisations :) ... If you google the breed, you'll find some interesting info -- they look VERY wolf-like, and if I've understood correctly, this is the main purpose of the breed. I'm happy to be corrected on this of course!

On the subject of 'American Indian Dogs'.................

http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/weblog/comments/148/

:rolleyes:

That hoax page was very interesting, I had already found some of the mentionned sites by googling before I posted further up.  I have had the good fortune to live near a park which housed (legally) two arctic wolves.  And near me used to be a rabies research compound which housed foxes, coyotes, skunks, racoons and timber wolves.  This latter place was not open to the public but the OH had connections, being an ex-CO, and we got to go in.  Most of the animals I saw pictured on the American Indian Dog website did not look like the wolves I've seen up close.  Rather, they appeared quite Siberian or Malmute looking to me.  But the dog at the Vet's, boy, did it look like a timber wolf.

The OH and used to hear the two arctic wolves howling when we were out skiing nearby.  They howled at supper time and whenever a train went through.  Even more thrilling were the howls we heard when on canoe trips, from wild wolves.  Once we were treated to the whole family, pups' voices easily identifiable, in a group howl as we settled in for the night.  It was wonderful and we felt privileged to hear something so few people do.  Wolves should stay wild.

Well done! Let us know if you hear anything else!

I had a Timber Wolf/ Rottie and he was more laid back, actually lived right in the house with us at the old age of 8. These animals deifinatly should not be crossed with our now domesticated dogs but left as the wild animal they are and be a true wild wolf as intended.... Our boy Taz though I think we got lucky and had such a well adjusted socialized pet, we treated him just like our other dogs and a family member, when he passed away a huge part of our whole family died with him and he now lives on with us in our hearts and memories of course lots of pics :)

I would definalty say NOT for any Novice owner, it is all in how you raise them... He was the best family member we had join our family :) sadly missed october 29 age 12

I would definalty say NOT for any Novice owner,

As was mentioned Dollface, in the UK you CANNOT keep one of these at all unless you have a dangerous wild animal license and have the wolfdog confined at all times -it couldn't live in your house or be taken for walks. It would be like a wolf in a zoo.

Quick update on this, had an email back from the very nice man at the council saying that they had been to see the man advertising and apparently he was selling them for a 'friend' and that he had been mistaken and they were actually cross breeds with no wolf in them at all. Surprise!

Advert was removed pretty quickly.

:-D  I kind of guessed that, don't these people try it on.:rolleyes: