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Topic Dog Boards / General / Chinese dog cull
- By LJS Date 01.08.06 11:26 UTC Edited 01.08.06 11:32 UTC
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/5233704.stm

:mad:
- By Carla Date 01.08.06 11:31 UTC
Thats awful :mad:
- By CherylS Date 01.08.06 11:36 UTC
Can you imagine the awful dilemma of those families who choose to kill their own dogs rather than see them culled by being beaten to death? How Sad :(
- By LJS Date 01.08.06 11:39 UTC
What I can't understand is all the dogs that had already been vacinated , why :confused: :mad:
- By Carla Date 01.08.06 11:41 UTC
Because they don't value the lives of pets, thats why.
- By LJS Date 01.08.06 11:43 UTC
Surely they must have due to getting them vaccinated?

Isn't it the Authorities that have ordered the cull ?
- By Carla Date 01.08.06 12:01 UTC
Yes, and its the authorities that don't value the lives of pets...
- By HuskyGal Date 01.08.06 12:15 UTC
different mentalities isnt it...most dogs are kept as watch dogs not pets.
The Chinese have done this before havent they...the 2004 cull (for the 2008 olympics :rolleyes:)
The government are shocking,The ordinary member of the public has to pay 10,000 yuam to license a dog (about £700!!!) and 6,000 yuam each year thereafter. (predominantly enforced in Cities) this type of thing only produces more strays when the average man simply cannot afford to keep licensing to line the pockets of government.
   South Korea are equally shocking in their policies.

:(
- By Carla Date 01.08.06 12:17 UTC
Yeah, they eat their strays :eek:
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 01.08.06 12:20 UTC
And in many cities pet dogs aren't allowed on the streets during daylight, or they run the risk of being killed there and then. :( :(
- By Isabel Date 01.08.06 12:23 UTC
The fear of rabies amongst such close living, large numbered people will be very strong.
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 01.08.06 12:24 UTC
Reading news reports from several years ago it seems there's doubt over the effectiveness of the vaccine used.
- By Ory [si] Date 01.08.06 13:11 UTC
It's shocking how little lives of animals are worth at some places around the world...... what's even more shocking is that there are places where human lives are worth even less. And all of that in the biginning of the 21 century! :eek:
- By Moonmaiden Date 01.08.06 15:40 UTC
The Greek Government had straying dogs & cats shot & poisoned before their Olympics & hardly anyone on here seemed to be interested when I posted a link & the Greeks are supposed to be a civilized European nation
- By LJS Date 01.08.06 18:31 UTC
MM I am sure I missed that post :rolleyes:

I have been to Greece and the one thing I noticed was the stray dogs and cats :rolleyes:

Again a country I feel not as bad maybe as China but pets are not high on the agenda maybe

Lucy
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- By Brainless [gb] Date 02.08.06 09:01 UTC
I think there is a difference here though in that we are talking about a total population cull, not just stray dogs.
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 01.08.06 19:24 UTC
I heard at the time that it's actually illegal in Greece for a vet to put an animal to sleep, and the only legal option is shooting or poisoning.
- By Moonmaiden Date 02.08.06 08:34 UTC
I heard at the time that it's actually illegal in Greece for a vet to put an animal to sleep, and the only legal option is shooting or poisoning.

Load of twaddle there are some wonderful people trying to help the stray dumped dogs/cats in Greece & they have some wonderful vets who help them & if needed they PTS animals beyond help or who are suffering. It was the cheapest & quickest route for the greek government
- By ali-t [gb] Date 01.08.06 17:28 UTC
If they were to organise something like that in Britain, me'n'my pooch would be on a boat out of here with our passports!
- By Nellie [gb] Date 03.08.06 08:34 UTC
as long as there was room on that boat for me & my dog as well.
- By Brainless [gb] Date 03.08.06 08:46 UTC
We must remember China is the most populous country in the World.  The population allowed to go unchecked would have them eat up any progress in food production they have been able to make.

Now the methods they use to try and achieve the best for their people may be unpalatable, but they don't have much choice.

Politically their attitude to dissent etc I cannot support of course.

Now in the Grand scheme of things where survival of people is at issue, dogs come pretty low on the agenda for them.

The way they chose to kill the dogs is awful and the fact that the
vaccinated ones were killed too(but if the vaccines are not effective understandable).  It probably comes down to cost and time.

When we had Foot and Mouth in the UK people had their livestock slaughtered.  This included Pet animals, herds of special rare animals etc.  This was absolutely ghastly, and it had to be done quick and the government was severely criticised, but they did what they thought best for the greater
good.

So to be honest when we live in fairly affluent societies we have to
remember that some do not have the luxuries to sentimentalise as we do.

The Chinese Government should be roundly criticised in the methods they chose for the killing, but they probably did not have an alternative but to order the cull.  Possibly not the time/resources to check the vaccinated dogs for sufficient titre levels either.

We here in the UK since the relaxation of quarantine have always wondered and worried about how the authorities would react if there was a Rabies outbreak in the UK. 

UK pets are not routinely vaccinated for Rabies as only
a very few are that travel abroad with their owners.
- By ashlee [gb] Date 04.08.06 12:51 UTC
A bit late adding to this thread,but I recently read an article about a lot of people going to china for kidney,liver transplants ect,I did not want to beleive it was true as this report stated that china has the death penalty, and kills about 8000 people a year,so the organs are used.
A man was interveiwed and he said he paid about 50,000 for a kidney,as time was running out for him.
The worrying thing is most surgeons will want to harvest the organs fast,so god only knows what goes on,  the report said that prisoners were beaten unconcious ,part of me wasn't suprised,there was a lady taking her daughter to china for stem cell therapy as well as uk wont do that, on the news recently.
So if this report was true,if they care so little,how can they care about animal welfare?
- By JaneG [gb] Date 04.08.06 16:57 UTC
I see they're expanding.....   :(

A second Chinese city is planning a mass dog slaughter to contain a rabies outbreak, state media said, days after a similar cull of 50,000 dogs prompted outrage and criticism.
Officials in the eastern city of Jining said they would kill all dogs within three miles of areas where rabies was found, the official Xinhua News Agency said.

The measure came in response to the deaths of 16 people from rabies in Jining in the past eight months, Xinhua said.

It didn't say how many animals would be killed, but said the city had about 500,000 dogs. Rabies cases are on the rise in China, with more than 2,000 people dying from the disease each year.

Only three per cent of the country's dogs are vaccinated against rabies.

The slaughter in Jining, in Shandong province, comes just days after the killings of a reported 50,000 dogs in a week-long crackdown in Mouding county in southwestern China's Yunnan province, launched after three people died of rabies. Thousands were beaten to death with clubs.

The earlier massacre sparked unusually pointed criticism in state media. "I think this is completely insane,'' Zhang Luping, founder of the Beijing Human and Animal Environmental Education Centre, said.
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