Hello,
I am wanting to give my dogs garlic for fleas etc but I am unsure of how. I looked at a dog show last weekend and garlic tablets for dogs were £15 a pack!! I was then advised to give the dogs a crushed garlic clove twice a week. We did that once but OH hated the smell which did stink out the house for over a day :rolleyes:. Anyway, I am now thinking along the lines of human garlic tablets from ASDA or somewhere like that which might be cheaper but I am unsure of the dose .
Does anybody know how much to give and how often (dose mg/kg)
Thanks
GG

I think cooking garlic paste is good. And i think that is from most supermarkets.

Other people will be along soon to give you more ideas i expect

I give mine garlic for horses :)

Daisy

Didn't understand you at first - thought you meant you give your dogs garlic to keep the horses away :D :D :D
Is that a tablet form??

It's normally Garlic powder given to horses (mixed in with their hard feed).  It's not too expensive and seems quite palatable to most horses.  Buy from any horse feed store, CWG, etc.....

Sorry I have a different question (hope you won't mind me using your thread).
I thought onions and garlic were dangerous food ingredients that can cause sickness in dogs (contain toxic ingredient thiosulphate)?
Does this only apply to some breed?

Garlic's fine. :) Many people give their dogs a clove of garlic every couple of days with no ill-effects. Many of us give their dogs leftover human food containing onions, and again, the dogs are fine. :)

>I thought onions and garlic were dangerous food <

Hi LIne

I dont give onions as they can cause heinz body anemia,although small amounts shouldnt hurt on an irregular basis.Garlic can also have this effect,but it is much milder than onions and can be given in normal doggy doses with confidence(i give 1 capsule every 2nd day or so).Garlic has many medicinal properties(antibacterial,,anticancer,immunstimulating) which far outweigh the tiny risk of the dog becoming anemic,which should only happen if it was given large doses on a daily basis. The general recommendation is 1 clove per 10-30lbs body weight.

>a crushed garlic clove twice a week. We did that once but OH hated the smell which did stink out the house for over a day<

What do you mean,stunk out the house? Dont you ever cook with garlic? Cant you're OH put up with the gentle wafting of garlic through the house a couple times a week for your dogs sake? :) If you're going to go with garlic capsules,kyolic seems to be the best.

garlic is fine, onions are not!

I give my crew one odourless garlic capsule a day :)

I normally get them from Holland and Barrett or Boots when they have BOGOF or BTGTF :D

Lucy
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Me too.

Right I have bought some garlic tablets . Is it one a day or every other day?? The tablets are 2mg ones and it is to give to a 22kg BC. Can I give these to a five month BC pup who weighs 15kg or should I wait??
GG

I think one a day may be going into overkill,especially for a young pup.Maybe try 3 times a week,it's totally up to you :)
GC are they 2 Grams or 2 milligrams? 2mg is barely anything.For a prepared product,it should provide a daily dose of at least 10mg of alliin or a total alicin potential of 4,000 micrograms(4 to 5 mg) which approximates 1 clove(4 grams) of garlic.It should state this on the bottle.

Yes the dose is 2 milligrams (mg). Is this a low dose??

It does not mention allicin on the container

Thanks
GG

Hi all

I give my 2 medium sized dogs a clove of garlic each a day, this follows a pattern of one week on garlic, one week off.

I have to admit by the end of the week the dogs do stink of the stuff :D

I don't give my dogs garlic because, just like onions, it can cause allium toxisis.   (Onions and garlic are both alliums.) 

If the link below does not work, just go to the ASPCA web site and search for "garlic", it will bring up this article. 

http://www.aspca.org/site/DocServer/vetm0805_562-566.pdf?docID=5602&AddInterest=1101

Certainly wouldn't stop me giving garlic to my dogs :) The quantities given are so small that it can't possibily be a problem. I've never heard of anybody's dog having a problem with it :) Obviously I wouldn't leave my store of dried garlic/fresh garlic/onions around where the dogs could get to it - an overdose is another matter :)

Daisy

According to that report my Cocker would need to eat something between 160 to 330 grams of onion or onion family to be affected by toxicity.  In old money that is between about 5 1/2 ounces and 11 1/2 ounces.  For those of you that never cook that is between a couple of onions and a bagfull :p.  Useful information, I shall take care not to give those sorts of quantities :)

Isabel,

People used to feed their dogs chocolate too.  Most people now would not, even though the quantity (especially of milk chocolate) has to be very high to be toxic.  I used to feed my dogs raisins and grapes, but I don't now and neither do most dog owners.  None of my dogs every keeled over from a few grapes and I can only assume that the quantity was too low to effect them - although of course observation was my only guide.   Observation is a poor guide when it comes to dog's health, of course, given dogs tend not to display any outward signs of ill health until they are well and truly ill.

It's a question of whether or not someone believes there is any benefit to feeding garlic (and none has been proven scientifically) to warrant feeding a dog something that is proven to be toxic. 

On the other hand, if I make a stew with garlic and onions in the gravy I still give it to my dogs.  I pick out the onion bits and let them enjoy the garlic flavour.   However, I would not give my dogs cloves of garlic nor garlic tablets.

I give my dogs small amounts of chocolate, let them lick the mousse pots etc :)

There are an awful lot of things that may cause harm/kill if eaten/drunk in big enough proportions, but are perfectly safe in small quantities :)

Daisy

Absolutely true Daisy.  For example, salt in large quantities will kill you - or dogs.  You are not likely to ingest enough to kill yourself in one go, but routinely using salt in excess can cause or contribute to a number of health problems, like high blood pressure. The difference is we need salt to survive, as do our dogs - in very small quantities.

Dogs have no nutritional need for garlic, or onions, or chocolate, or grapes - so why would anyone routinely give it to them? 

Okay, I have no nutritional need for alchohol either and too much can kill me.   But heck, a G&T in the evening when we were going through that hot weather sure hit the spot!  

>Dogs have no nutritional need for garlic, or onions, or chocolate, or grapes - so why would anyone routinely give it to them? 

Not sure if that question was rhetorical because you went on to answer it yourself :) but just incase it wasn't.......... you enjoy a G&T and as it does you no harm in sensible quantities you are safe to enjoy it.  Well the same can be said of chocolate, grapes, bits of onions or garlic in left overs for dogs.

Isabel,

The truth is I am much more careful with my dogs' diet than I am with my own diet. 

> The truth is I am much more careful with my dogs' diet than I am with my own diet

That's certainly true for me :D That's why I give them a raw diet, including the garlic :D :D :D

Daisy

>The truth is I am much more careful with my dogs' diet than I am with my own diet.<

So true,as as am i.In my case it's because i am solely responsible for what my dogs ingest,and if anything goes wrong that can be blamed on incorrect or poor nutrition(which are many,many diseases and conditions),this will fall squarely on my shoulders,and it will be my fault and only mine! Whereas i'm the only responsible for me,and can only blame myself for my own bad food choices.My dogs certainly do eat better and healthier than i do,i brought them into my home and this is the least i can do for them :)

>Dogs have no nutritional need for garlic, or onions, or chocolate, or grapes - so why would anyone routinely give it to them? <

Dogs also have no nutritional need for carbohydrates,particularly in grain form,although these are not added to pet foods for their nutritional value :rolleyes: Any benefits carbs may give,eg energy can be given by other more species approriate foods which are better  utilised/absorbed by the dog.
Dogs also have no nutritional need for fruit and veggies,but i give them any way,as the vitamins,antioxidants etc they provide can only do them good :)

I've had dogs that have a nutritional need for grains :)  Got horribly constipated without and all have lived good long healthy lives utilising them.
I would hope all Champdoggers care greatly what they give their dogs and that they are thriving.  I like to think I take the same care with myself and the humans I feed, the two are not mutually exclusive you know :) 
I think we are going off track though, which is basically that a little of anything that is not harmfull except in huge quantities is not being negligent to any of our charges when that little something is for some other perceived health benefit or simply for enjoyment.  It's all a question of proportion :)

>The truth is I am much more careful with my dogs' diet than I am with my own diet.

I'm sure I'm not the only person who's shocked by that.

Jeangenie,

Why?  It's far easier to be strict with what my dogs eat than my own diet.   I am a label reader of dog foods and people foods, in that there's no difference.  However, beyond the odd crumb or two I don't buy my dogs foods that they don't need, are of little value or potentially detrimental to them.  On the other hand, I do have my G&Ts and I do buy myself ice cream (low-fat, to help assauge my guilt), I will order batter-coated deep fried food in a restaurant, and so on.

I expect it's the same for most people, rather than being unusual or shocking.

let them lick the mousse pots etc   :rolleyes:

You don't do that do you :D :D :D

Fair enough, I'll send them round to you :)

If we even mention ' Yogurt pots' in our house and they go loopy :D :D

Chocolate Moooouse ones,  well Moose is in 7th heaven :D

Oh! we used to do that with our last two - Molly would close her eyes in bliss!
Makes me realise how strict we've been with Sophie! :)