our neighbouring farmers mother has got herself a bulldog bitch (no idea from where), put it to a dog but nothing came of it. Now its been "seen to" by their farm collie & is in whelp. They are thrilled as they envisage pups wotrth a small fortune..at least £1000each!!!! Has anyone ever known a bulldog bitch produce such pups or is she in real danger? They would never think to "waste money" on something like a caeser!!! I am most concerned.

words fail me. i truly, truly hope they get £0 for their pups.

I suppose if they take after the sire they are more likely to be whelping naturally than a pure bulldog pup with their large heads but as for getting a grand for them :rolleyes: I seriously doubt it. 

I suppose they can call it a bollie! :rolleyes:

No a bullsup.

As the others have said the pups are less likely to be the shape to cause whelping difficulties and as the size difference is minimal (yes bulldogs are shorter onleg but over all size is not small) then the resulting pups are likely to have less short muzzles and narrower heads.

Bulldogs are pretty clums so whether the pups will survive after birth is another matter,a dn bulldogs do have narrow hips so a ceaser may still be needed because of the dams conformation.

You just don't know.

I wonder what the combination of busy working dog with the conformation of the Bulldog not built for such activity will do for welfare of any pups that take more after the bulldog side of the family.

I'd say to them what my vet told me when I had my ACCIDENTAL crossbred litetr -they're nothing but MUTTS so worthless.

There are people advertising on an internet site
Boxer cross bulldogs and they want £700 each for those
£700 is in the range of the cost of a pure bred Boxer pup!

Some people words fail me
She may need a ceasarian - as pups will be quite large...
Poor Bulldog :(

It is getting crazier by the minute. 

I spoke with a lady yesterday who had a lovely black and white short haired puppy.  It looked very Staffie-ish with Border Collie mixed in.  The lady told me she was Springer crossed BC but I seriously doubt there was much Springer in there.  Another lady is breeding Tibetan Terrier cross Cocker Spaniel very attractive but again I am not sure how the different temperaments will mix.

The saddest thing is that people are paying the same price or more than a pedigree for these mixes.

At the moment on one of the free ad sites there are staffy x shar pei for sale to select clients only, but when you reead futher down the ad they have all sorts of crosses , it states that you are to text them with your order and they will let you know when it is ready

Shocking

Peanuts

in my local paper under PEDIGREE pets there is a breed called a woodle, poodle x shitz £350 each, but great with kids apparently:rolleyes: and every week for about the last 4months theres labxcollie £125? I just don't see the logic in purposely breeding such dogs?

I used to know a lady who had a labXcollie when I was younger, it was a lovely dog.

£125.00, in them days they were given away or charged a small fee (or at least thats what tended to happen where I grew up).

Just a thought - perhaps the labxcollies were charged at that price to put off people who thought it "might  be nice to have a puppy" or perhaps I am just being hopeful?

Oh boy, I can't even begin to grab the concept of such a mating. What on earth kind on pups will they produce. They surely won't be healthy, you couldn't get two breeds so far apart if you tried, they have absolutely nothing in common apart from the fact that they both enjoy eating! One breed could never in a million years enhance the other in any way a good Collie pup will be hindered by Bulldog characteristics and personality, and a Bulldog with Collie Oh boy the breeders need shooting. (Figuratively speaking only)

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Oh boy, I can't even begin to grab the concept of such a mating. What on earth kind of pups will they produce? They surely won't be healthy, you couldn't get two breeds so far apart if you tried, they have absolutely nothing in common apart from the fact that they both enjoy eating! One breed could never in a million years enhance the other in any way a good Collie pup will be hindered by Bulldog characteristics and personality, and a Bulldog with Collie Oh boy the breeders need shooting. (Figuratively speaking only)

Oh boy, I can not get my head around such a mating.  Why on earth would anyone do such a thing?

You couldn't get two breeds more far apart if you tried, what could a Bulldog and a Collie possibly have in common, what could one breed possibly bring to another. These pups surely will not be healthy, a good Collie pup will be hindered by Bulldog characteristics and personality, and Bulldog with Collie characteristics, I can't even contemplate.

Oh the breeders need shooting (figuratively speaking) Bulldogs have a hard enough time in whelp as it is. I too hope she lives through the whelping, but £1,000 for a pup, they live in dreamland, I think even the fickle will not be attracted to such an odd x breed.

Words fail me!  I have seen an increase in cross bred dogs in my area and people are paying high prices for them.

Rachel

I met a new addition to my routine walk this morning; he's 18 months old, came from a rescue where they had been having problems with dogs from a certain breeder who crosses Great Danes and Bullmastiffs.  He was lovely although my springer was terrified of him!

What a shame - where will it end?

The latest arrival at a friends training class is a Bug............. Boston Terrier x Pug.

The owners have told my friend that yes it is a real breed, and the puppy from a "registered breeder" who told them wonderful things about how the breed is soon to be registered with the KC!

They paid £800 for her, on a breeding contract that says she has to be bred to the dog of the breeder's choice when she's over 2 and that he gets to take 2 puppies back in exchange for the stud fee............. his reasoning behind this was that it was in the best interests of the "breed" due to it's current stage of development!

I told her to to tell the owners to ask the KC themselves about registering this "breed" and perhaps afterwards a trip to trading standards!

That would be interesting because if they have these breeding terms in writing then they have evidence for trading standards, if not the so called breeder can go whistle. 

Must say though at least that cross is of two breeds of similar size, both brachycephalic (sp) companion breeds, wouldn't have thought wildly conflicting character traits.

ive seen alot of BCxstaffys, but never a BC x bulldog.

the BCxstaffs generally dont look too bad,(not that id have one)defintally look "bully"ish,usually in BC colours with a short coat,more bone & a courser head than a BC,but with a longer nose than a staff & bigger ears than a staff. & BC size

id not like to think about them temperment wise though,collies being extremley sharp & eyey& herdy & nervey could be a diaster when  mixed with the power &drive of a staff

Yep see a few of this cross here and the problems you suspect are the ones we have encountered with them at classes.  The other Staffie cross we get a fair few of our Jack Russell cross staff, and these can be little gits with other dogs, with more power than a Russell.

Now Bulldogs are rather mellow sorts, so I wouldn't foresee that sort of issue, my worry would be if the pups were active by temperament, but inherited the traits that would make this a bad idea for the dogs health.

Mod edit: Don't help them by advertising!

I am glad these pups are not selling

Accidental crosses can happen to anyone but to plan this is beyond words. There were previous pups to see so it wasn't the first time. Dogs like this used to be called Mongrels,Heinz 57 etc,what has changed.

I'll get off my soap box now

Rhona

Bitsa's too. Bits of This and bits of that.

Mod Edited: PLEASE don't give them more advertising than they already have!!

Still OTT. (And it's probably sensible for you to stop doing their advertising for them! ;))

Perhaps you could edit out who has emailed you, if not Admin can do it for you if you ask :)