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Topic Dog Boards / Behaviour / New pup and resident dog
- By tychlo [gb] Date 13.07.06 14:10 UTC
Just after a bit of advice (long time since i had a pup) Anyway the she is nearly 11 weeks old now, my resiident lad is nearly 4 and up to today they have been getting on great. The little girl has really given my boy a run for his money these last two weeks since arriving (hanging of his jowls, play bitting etc) and he has taken it all in his stride, even encouraged her by playing with her back. They share toys ok, older boy generally takes possesion of them after a game etc, and they sleep and eat together ok ( obvously under supervision, when we are not around the baby is crated)

Today however something was on the floor,it was after pups feed time so i am unsure what it was as i didnt see anything before hand. The elder lad was hoovering thhe floor, smelling etc and the pup came over to look. Basically the next minute the pup was on her back with the lad on top of her growling and snarling, no damage done think is was more noise... i did interfer though and pull him away. What do you think caused this, is this the start of them not getting on? or is it likley that the baby at 11weeks is comming out of her "pup Licence Phase" and he now wont let her get way with so much... When does this phase usually begin? and should i intervene if it happens again or let him dicipline her.... It just sound so horrific when it happens and you panic dont you because of the size difference,and the fact that you dont want the pup hurt.:confused:
- By Carrington Date 13.07.06 17:05 UTC
You may get different answers, but personally I would not allow a male to dominate a pup to the point of turning it over and snarling over it there is no need for such an agressive handling.

Your pup is definitely not coming out of the 'cute pup, I can get away with anything stage' older dogs but particularly bitches will give into pups for many month's yet, a dog may handle things differently, I would keep a close eye and seperate if your male becomes aggressive towards the pup, the odd growl is no problem.  The fact is that the majority of the time the bitch will have a higher hierachy status than the male when fully grown she will certainly assert herself when older, your male should learn to give into her, so expect some argy bargy between the two as she grows.  Hopefully this is just a one off, little snipes are perfectly fine they both need to find their niches, but keep an eye that things do not go too far.
- By tychlo [gb] Date 13.07.06 17:55 UTC
I perhaps discribed this wrong. He didnt turn her over she turned over in submission, when he growled etc at her. He is usualy a very pacid dog with both other females and males so i would love to get to the bottom of what irritated him today. My head was in the cuboard and it literally happened that quick, and was over just as quick. But obviously i dont and wont condone to rough handling of the pup. How would you handle these situation, then and how? should they occur again, any suggestion would be gratefully taken on board.:cool: I did take him away from the situation and they were fine again together within minutes. Would you keep the elder lad out of the area when the pup is having a meal and he isnt? or will that make him jealous.( i have been giving him a biscuit at these times so he doesnt feel left out, would you stop doing that? (no problems what so ever feeding them together in the same room when they are both due to be fed, they respect each others space and im always there). This incident occured when only the pup had been fed, and  after the lad had a biscuit. Perhaps the pup spotted some crumbs on the floor, cause he was hoovering the area.
Also Would you leave there toys around for them to interact with or not? so many questions sorry folks!
- By Carrington Date 13.07.06 18:18 UTC
After what you have described this time, nothing to worry about :-) I always let dogs and pups eat together, I put a bowl down for each and stand between to supervise eating, and never allow others to pinch from another's bowl, I personally feel it helps dogs to bond if they all eat at the same time.

You will get plenty of little snipes like this, encourage them to share toys, (get plenty in) any possesivness from the older dog offer the younger a different toy.

Above all else don't panic and think your dogs will not get along, with age everything changes, they all just need to learn their place, your new girl as said earlier will stand up for herself as she gets older, there will be plenty of goings on like this, as long as there is nothing too heavy and the dogs are getting along well, leave them to sort it out.
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 13.07.06 18:35 UTC
I wouldn't be too concerned. If there were no injuries it sounds as though your older dog was putting Pup in her place in canine fashion - which is excellent, and better learned than anything a human can teach! If your boy seriously intended harm, believe me he'd have done it!

Keep them separated when you're not with them, and feed them apart - at opposite ends of the room, for example - so as not to allow any possible need for possessiveness to develop. I always give the adult dogs a teeny bit of their daily food whenever the latest pup is fed to reduce any possibility of jealousy. I'm sure all will be well.
:)
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