Okay...having seen another thread lets go possitive and sing the praise of our sadly rather too few dog friendly establishments.

I am missing off the pubs as I got out of the habbit of using them having been denied entry too many times in the day time  in this child unfriendly society!
On the whole I found the UK veru child hostile as well as dog hostile..many other countries in Europe are more welcoming and offer more freedom to both.

I have found in West Yorkshire all parks are dog friendly... I have met no restrictions other then clean up and control..but control can be off lead. I hope dog folk behave responsibly and then we can keep this nice friendly attitude to dogs.

local to me in West Yorkshire there are a few good places to take the dogs.  A cafe by the river at otley welcomes dogs inside and outside, provides water and also sometimes gives them treats.

Near Bingley at St.Ives is a lovely new cafe it welcomes dogs inside and outside and provides water. And the staff openly admire the dogs and talk dogs.

In keighley I don;t think there are great places to eat but the jewlers and a few small shops they invited me in with the dogs and fussed them and said they adore dogs and would rather have dogs then children.

In Haworth there are several dog friendly cafes who will let dogs go inside.. one only lets one dog inside at a time though.  

In Haworth the woolen mill has a cafe and welcomes dogs to come inside. If they see you outside they come out and invite you to bring the dogs inside.  They are very nice.

Anoyther in Haworth openly welcomes the dogs, takes their photo, and treats them like vip's. they get served buttered toast cut into soldiers and they get served before the people. And get verbally fussed when cute babies get ignored.   They are my dog friendly prize winners!

When we find these gems though it is important to respect them with perfect behaviour from us and our dogs or we will loose the few places we can eat and drink at.

But I will shame North Yorkshire... I suspect it is the dog unfriendly capital of the UK.  Many parks do not permit off lead walking od dogs and some restrict the areas you can go into with dogs.... some even do not permit dogs at all. Their beaches seem overly restrictive to dog users... outside the facilitated areas.  And in York you can not walk on the city walls even though this is an outside area and something I really miss doing now that I have dogs.  But then the city lock it's lockable parks in the evenings and even on Chrstmas day so what should I expect.

Dogs are pack animals..they like to be out with their pack and not left home alone... they destress people and give people longer healthier lives and help us develop better immune systems. They are good for the health and with utd worming and flea treatments and good hygene and good training they deserve to go where we go.

Well behaved dogs amd children should be welcomed at more places in the UK...but individualls and their families thrown out immediately and even rudely if they do not behave appropriately.  JUst give them an ASBO.  But respect the rights of those who are well behaved.

Agree with you about North Yorkshire, we live in York and while a couple of pubs will let dogs in, they are not eating pubs.  Same with the countryside around York, though we have managed to find one or two over the years.  We usually go to Northumerland with the dogs and find it much more dog friendly.

Oh, and there are hardly any parks in York, and most of them won't let you have the dog off the lead.  Luckily we are near to a bit of common land, though I suspect it's only a matter of time before the useless council sells it off to a housing developper. 

Oh you live in York..glad you agree as I don't mean to be rude about York.  I lived there most of my life in Acomb/Holgate area but we never had dogs. My family are still there so visit a lot and always find dog walking awkward there.  There are areas they can walk of lead like some of the greens and commons and by the river but on the whole  it is very restrictive.

We were looking to move (still within York) a couple of years ago and had to rule out most parts of the city because hardly anywhere is suitable for dog walking.  My parents live by the river (Fishergate) but I don't like walking Molly there as she is water mad and would probably jump in and not be able to get out again as it's a bit of a drop.  Our daily walk is on Walmgate Stray, by the University, but we have to drive there. My OH has just got a job in Liverpool now, though:  we went over last weekend to look for a house and couldn't believe how great the parks were and how green the city is compared with York.

My Mollie loves to jump into water too... !

Liverpool is very green and has seen a lot of improvements and developments in recent years.  It's quite a nice city and has a few interesting museums..I don't know it all that well though but when I've been it seems okay and it certainly  has some very lovely areas.   If you don't know much about the areas there I can give you a link to a thriving city enthusiast forum where people should be happy to answer any questions you may have. Let me know if you want a link and I will try to find it for you.

Yes please - that would be great!

You have to join to post but I thinkit is quite quick... then it will be okay for you to start a thread asking what your need to know. They are normally very helpful.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=380

Great - thanks for that

The trouble is, many dog people are not good at either controling their dogs, nor cleaning up after them, and its because of this that many places are barred to dogs. As we all know, its far from pleasant to walk in a lump of goo, or have the kids fall into it. Not everyone likes to have a dog run up to them, even those that like or own dogs dont want a strange one bounding round them, so its worse for those that dont own dogs. Parks tend to be public places, and in the summer are filled with kids of all ages, from babies, toddlers, to the older age group. As is the way, the kids will scream and shout, run, kick balls about, and generally play to let off steam. A loose dog, no matter how well behaved, will cause concern for many and even if you do pick up after it, there is still sometimes some residue left in the area a child could walk or fall in. With so many children being attacked by dogs as is regulary spoken about in the press, it's little wonder that in these places dogs are either banned or to be kept on leads. There are many dog owners who cannot stop their dogs jumping up and running into other dogs, so how would they stop the dog running after a childs ball, or jumping up the child? May well be only friendly, but unwanted all the same.

Same goes for pubs, cafe's etc, not everyone wants a dog where they are eating, nor for that matter do people want to pay for an expensive meal out, and have children running around screaming and playing. We have always taken our two out for meals, from a young age, first sunday lunch, going onto an early evening meal, and they have been behaved because they know to be, whatever else may be happening. They are taught table manners, and not to disturb others. Personally, I dont like children in pubs later on in the evening. I may be old fashioned, but to me a pub is an adult place, somewhere to let your hair down and talk as you will. A haven from the kids even :D yours and everyone elses. Thats just my opinion though ;)

Totally agree, I have no children so obviously I am dog biased, however, it is lovely to see and speak to well behaved children, the problem is with the bad parents or for that matter bad dog owners.  Just recently during the warm up England game, my husband and I (sounds like the Queen, doesn't it) went for a walk during the game, two very small boys came up to us and asked to stroke the dogs, no problem, except, where were the parents, in the pub, not even keeping a look out for their children, for all they knew their children could have been attacked or abducted because all the time we were there, no-one came to see if the children were okay. The mind boggles at this society.

The trouble is, many dog people are not good at either controling their dogs, nor cleaning up after them,
the bad minority.  We should be treated with the respect we deserve and not tarnished with the crimes of the antisocial irrisponsible filth who do such things!

Just like many people steal but we are still permittred into shops...

....many people get drunk smash bottles and throw up pee and poo  on the streets but still they are petmitted to drink.

At night I can not sleep because of those comming back from a night drinking but we don't stop them enjoying their pleasures..we put up with drunks even though we don't like them.  People have to tollerate the pleasures othere enjoy and compromise..but us and our  dogs are not given the same respect. What can be wrong with taking well mannered dogs into a warm room for a cup of tea and lunch in the winter. The cause no harm to anyone. So well done the cafes who do rsespect and welcome us repeayedly because I spend my money now in their shops...so they win by being openminded.

There is no genuine excuse for the blanket discrimination thrown at responsible dog owners.   Like I say...ban and even ASBO those who behave in antisocial manner but give the rest of us the rights and respect we deserve......as seen within many parts of Europe!  

Hi Tenaj,

I think we have to be realistic here and acknowledge the fact that the presence of dogs can be a concern to non-dog lovers - many people may have allergies to animal fur, many more still may be simply terrified of them and others may find that being exposed to the potential "germs" etc which are part and parcel of everyday life for us doggy folks is nevertheless unacceptable :)

I'm afraid I can't see the similarity between your refences to shoplifters, drunks et al - we have police forces and laws to cover such situations and if we were sitting in a pub or cafe we would not expect to have either on our adjoining table and, if so, could expect that action be taken to have them removed.

I agree that responsible owners are unfortunately tarnished with the same brush as those who appear to care little if their dog is causing a nuisance, fouling, wandering the streets etc but think how many times at dog shows with "responsible owners" we come across dog excrement abandoned, copious amounts of grooming waste abandoned, poor & agressive temperament (from owners too :rolleyes: ).  

All most of us can hope for is that with taking full responsibility for our dogs and ensuring they cause no nuisance to anyone anwhere, we get the message across to more people that dogs are wonderful and their owners not as completely batty as they come across :P

regards, Teri 

I'm afraid I can't see the similarity between your refences to shoplifters, drunks et al - we have police forces and laws to cover such situations and if we were sitting in a pub or cafe we would not expect to have either on our adjoining table and, if so, could expect that action be taken to have them removed.
actually there are many people with these issues within society and they will spend time sitting next to you on many occassions..they are actually normal people... drinking is the no1 social passtime here in the uK... professionals and everyone drinks. THey are not always drunk nor aware of the noise they make comming home from wine bars because it is a respected social occupation.

I was starting this thread in the hope that people would list the dog friendly places in their areas who serve our dogs year in year out with no issues to complain about and love us as customers......  and so to give them praise and recognition.... it was not intended as a thread to support those majority who blanket ban us and our dogs!

>it was not intended as a thread to support those majority who blanket ban us and our dogs!

I don't support them, however I am realistic enough to acknowledge that many non-dog owners have valid reasons to feel as they do :)

Starting threads on here with one angle only in mind is a radical concept I'm afraid :D :D :D

non-dog owners have valid reasons to feel as they do
I will agree to disagree... no more than people have good reason to dislike cars, dislike children, dislike cyclists, dislike the elderly, dislike youth, dislike Christians and so on...  yes people dislike and discriminate...but it can  not be fustified... I certainly have never given anyone cause to be upset about children or dogs and I like to be treated as an individual and judged on my merrits and not on the merrots of some ficticious individual I have nothink in common with and no link with.   Okay... I have a dog. I also have a car.. .but I don't drink and drive.

Maybe people who always have dogs are happy to be lumped with a group of antisocial irrisponsible filthy people..but I feel I have no comnnection with the likes of them. OKay...I am a total dog snob and proud to be so! :D

I have found Osmotherley North Yorkshire to be the most dog friendly, enjoyable place. We always meet lovely people walking with and without dogs, and most dogs are very sociable, and we don't feel the need to watch like a hawk, as nearly all dogs are off lead. There is a lovely campsite which is dog friendly, and then also in the centre the pubs are too, staff are always at the ready with a bowl of water, and to make a fuss of the dogs. I think as most people are used to it and the majority have animals, nobody bats an eyelid. A lot of people have grumbled about dogs being off lead, but the pub we always visit doesn't have a problem with dogs roaming the garden (but i don't want to dwell on that again), more often than not Tyler just lies down next to us, but if prompted will go and get a stroke from other customers.

Osmotherley!  Never been there at all... it's worth a visit then?  We are always looking for new stress free places to go to visit but it never crosed my mind that Osmotherley wasa place to go to...I will give it a try. :)

Is the campsite one that takes tents and is it listed anywhere and do you need to book or just turn up?  ...at this time of year dog friendly campsites would be a good idea for a thread too...  :)

Woah Tenai, where did all that come from :D I'm simply telling it as it is. Like it or not, the reasons people are not allowed to take their dogs where they please is because of the people who do not clear up after their dogs, or keep them under correct control, and believe me, they are not in the minority! There are also some fairly drastic dog laws in this country since the introduction of the Dangerous Dogs Act, following on from people being attacked by certain types (I wont say breeds) of dogs, aimed at the Pit Bull really but the overspill is preaty damning for most breeds. Kids have been bitten by dogs, and its because of this, and the fact that non dog owners dont want their kids jumped all over, that dogs have to be careful where they go, and in public, on the whole, be on a lead. Otherwise they could face, in the worst case the dog being seized and PTS. irresponsible people have bought this about.
People dont like to eat with a dog next to them, for many reasons, germs, health, whatever, if they are that way inclined. As the other poster has stated, some people are allergic to dogs. Not all dogs will happily sit without begging. I wouldnt want a strange dog slobbering over my child, yet they very often share their food with ours if I dont keep my eyes peeled! :) Yes, I applaud the places that will let the dogs be there, I'm not saying I am against them, but I am saying why people dont like it.

As to theft, you will find that if someone is caught stealing from a shop they will be banned from there, regardless of the possible prosecution. Public order offences are dealt with at the time. All of these are crimes. ASBOs are not really intended for responsible dog ownership :D....but then, maybe its a thought :D

However, you are confusing criminal law and local bylaws here, and public opinion, by this comparision, even though I do understand where you are coming from. :)If you do an internet search you will find many child and dog friendly places, for walks, meals, holidays etc.

I'm simply telling it as it is. Like it or not, the reasons people are not allowed to take their dogs where they please is because of the people who do not clear up after their dogs, or keep them under correct control

actually not so..the restrictions in York are ancient...they are way pre-clean up days when dogs roamed as strays, before flea treatments, before well publicised readily avaliable traning methods, and when dogs were kept out the back yards and kept on chains...they are old  laws based on old ways!  People did not clean up because they were not asked to....the simple concept had not been though of...the people were not actually at fault because it was normal practice. 

Times have changed... it is now normal practice for all dog owners to clean up... only criminal minded dirty antisocial people  do not clean up...   so today concepts of dog ownership are totally different. People like me are attracted to dogs because they can now be managed in a socially acceptable manner.   These new ways of keeping them are attractive...I would have no interest in a back yard dog who never saw a brush or a bath! For ome people they love that and are welcome to keep their hobby... but my hobby is different.   I and many newly attracted to having a dog type of people have no connection with whatever went on in the past. IT is irrelevant to our lives and behaviours!

These are new times we live in, and it is time for totally new European lifestyles.  I am not even British and I have no feelingto link me with the tradition of  restrictions seen in this country.  It is stifling and there are no valid justifications for it.

When I take me and my dogs out to new places, to new cities we do want to eat.. eating and drinking is a necessity even a human right...but because we have our dogs it can take hours of searching to find a place prepared to seve us... and yet I am no criminal! I never even had a speeding fine! I am very honest clean and responsible wilth clean well behaved dogs. Yet I could have a long sick criminal record and I would be served at any establishment.

You or other people may let your dogs slobber over other you or peoples kids when you east so need to keep them separate  but I keep mine sat at my feet under my chair and under control at all times in public areas and have had nothing but praise for their behaviour from staff at the cafes we frequent. People always adore them...no one runs out screaming allergies. We have allergies in our family and couldn't even eat out anyway for a while because foods cause severe allergic reactions.  Also people can choose..if a cafe welcomes dogs then they can eat somewhere else..... this reminds me of dog beaches. We are so restricted in which beaches we can take our dogs on the biggest and nicest parts of the beach are for those without dogs.. which is good for cleanliness ..not thatit would trouble even before having dogs me as long as people have them on leads there and clean up...... anyway still on the small dog beackes  you hear the odd grump on the dog beach complaining about dogs!  They really just have a  grumpy mentality not a justified mentality!   OKay some people don't like dogs...but basically tough for them. I have no sympathy for rude people. They need to learn that the world is full of  diversity and how to share our public spaces nicely!

Cafe and shop owners frequantly want to let well behaved dogs come in but they are prevented to do so .. I do not know what the rules of this are and how some cafes get round the rstrictions.  ....but dog walkers are customers all year round no matter what the weather...not just when the sun comes out.   We also because we are out all times of day all year round are good for society..we partol the streets reducing crime, vandalism and social disorder... we are the eyes and ears of society...to society we are very very valuable people.

However I am more then happy to be banned if I do something bad and irrisponsible... then target me thatis okay. .. but the mamy many people who work hard in being responsible and training good behaviour and not letting dogs off lead until they are under control should be rewarded..there should be incentives for good dog ownership.      We live in a time we see minority groups from all walks and preferences establish their freedom from blanket discriminatons and it would be nice to see this movement in the dog world at some point in the not too distant future.  This is just my opinion and insight into what I see as a totally new to dogs family.  

>I do not know what the rules of this are and how some cafes get round the rstrictions.

The law is that dogs cannot be taken into an area where food is prepared for the public. They can, at the discretion of the owner or manager, be taken where food is served (as long as it isn't prepared in the same room). However these places are privately owned and, just as the licencee of a public house has the right to bar anyone for any reason, so does a café or shop owner.

And of course it was only quite recently (historically speaking) that dogpoo (known as 'pure') stopped being a valuable commodity that was collected at night and sold to tanneries. In mediaeval times there wasn't much dogpoo on the streets ... or 'open sewers' as they were!

Oh JG.......yuck.....but thanks for the history lesson ;) Guess that explains where it all went.......... Thank goodness for the Victorians eh! ;)

'Pure' link (for those of an educational frame of mind! ;))

OMG :D

However these places are privately owned
oh that's why..the ones I know who want to let dogs in are leasehold. One even wrote to the papers saying how he would like to let dogs in because dow walkers are customers all year round and he really values them.

OP........I am so sorry to disapoint you, but it is not only the 'criminal minded' person that does not clean up after their dogs, it is 'joe public' which can be seen in any area of the country, and as someone said, even at dog shows. It is not the norm for people to clean up after their dogs, sadly. :( Down to the 'little old lady' walking her dog in the park. I see many people every day out walking without any form of bag to pick up after their dog. There are many postings here of people that are not happy with others dogs running up to theirs and knocking into them. I don't know the BY-Laws in every county, so I can't comment on them, but I do know that when I was a child dogs ran on beaches, parks etc, and had an awful lot of fun. Trouble is, they left an awful lot of mess behind. Beaches are awarded certificates for cleanliness, and as being child friendly, and like it or not, banning dogs from these places are a main reason for them being clean. Tourism depends on the people attending, and they wont go if they think the beaches are dirty, be that dog owners or not, so for these people in this industry to make a living they need to give the public what they want. The majority prefer clean, dog free beaches.

Much as you may be new to dog ownership yourself, and from what you say here you certainly sound like someone who takes this responsibly, but what went on the past, and happens today, does count for everyone. Businesses run to the clients they attract, and if having dogs on the premises, no matter how well behaved, stops customers coming in, then they will ban them, as is their right, and perfectly justifiable if they are to make a living. If you are visiting different towns etc, before you go contact the Tourist info center, they can advise you where you can eat with a dog in tow, same as an internet search. I imagine if you are travelling to visit different places, you will have already checked out what is on offer to visit, so a check for the dog friendly places should be easy. You may be pleasantly suprised with what you find :)

Your opinions of this country are your own, I am born and bred here, there are things about it I don't like, but at the end of the day it is my country of origin and I am proud of it.

Those with a 'sick' criminal record, depending on what it is, are actually restricted in where they can go. But thats another matter entirely. You seem to be confusing criminal responsibility with every day restrictions, which are the law of this land, or any land, be that by way of crime, civil matters, by-laws, or quite simply the right of the owner of an establishment to allow entry or not.

Tell me, why should it be 'tough' for those that dont like dogs, yet not for you?

People have allergies. If you were, for example, an athsma sufferer who was likely to have an attack from dog hair/dust/scales would you want to eat or be close to a dog? They make sure they avoid dogs, because of this, and that restricts their lifestyle. Just a little example.

Perhaps its because you are very new to dog ownership that you do not see the reasons and pitfalls behind dogs having total freedom to be where they like, or rather where their owners would like them to be. As you gain more knowledge and experience in the dog world you will see the reasons for all this.

it is not only the 'criminal minded' person that does not clean up after their dogs, it is 'joe public' which can be seen in any area of the country, and as someone said, even at dog shows. It is not the norm for people to clean up after their dogs, sadly.

I was somewhat gobsmacked recently.  I was walking my dog on National Trust land, carrying little nappy sacks of my dog's 'output' as usual to be disposed of in the dog bins back at the car park, when I was approached by a man walking his dog who actually came over to ask why people like me bothered to pick up in such areas.  He said he was happy to pick up on streets but wouldn't consider it otherwise.

I was too taken aback to suggest that he wouldn't be keen to tread in it or remind him about people with children picnicking in the area, just said I picked up wherever I was walking my dog and I thought that was the right thing to do.

He then started talking about people who picked up but then dropped the bag on the ground or in the bushes (don't get me started on them!! ).  Think by that time, he was trying to justify his own laziness in not cleaning up cos he could see I strongly disapproved.  This guy wasn't a yob, seemed a pleasant enough man - just had a blind spot where clearing up was concerned. :(

A very well written and patiently adressed post with which I totally agree :)  

>These are new times we live in, and it is time for totally new European lifestyles.

Why? If I want to live like a continental European I'll go and live there. If I want the British lifestyle I'll live here. It's up to me to live where I like the rules, not to for the rules to change to suit me.
:)

Well said JG!!

Ditto ;) ;) :)

As usual, an excellent well-balanced post, JG - one which epitomises the best of us Brits :)

Margot

Thinking about it, it's only since we joined the EEC (and became one of the few countries actually to obey European laws ;)) that access by dogs has become so restricted. If we went back to the old British ways of 30+ years ago dogs would once more be accepted everywhere.

Dogs certainly were then, thats for sure! (Think we'v had this convo before JG? :D) The days of kids, dogs and parents out and about, parents able to sit and watch as the kids ran off steam alongside everyone elses dogs. Going on holiday, the family pet came too, in our case all 3 ;), camping in cornwall running on the beaches chasing balls, building sandcastles the damn dog always sat on :D....just cant remember any dog fights as strange ones met each other, maybe its the childs mind not noticing....and the summers were hotter and longer, and the winters colder and darker....or was that just lack of central heating? Whoops, maybe not, still no central heating yet :D maybe this winter..........;)

Things were different then. not sure if they were let in cafes or the like, or pubs? Were people simply more tolerant of each other then? I know thats how I remember it feeling as I grew up, as opposed to now. Or maybe its just age, everything looking better backwards :D

Pubs certainly allowed dogs, just as many do now. (I remember feeling miffed that the dog was allowed in while I sat in the car with a book, a packet of crisps and a coke!) Shops too - our old dog used to go shopping with us, and was given a bone in the butcher's shop (and got his tail broken when the heavy glass door shut on it as we left ). It was frowned upon to allow your dog to poo on the pavement - the gutter was the place for that! I remember that dogs did get into scraps occasionally, but that was sorted by someone whacking them with a stick or whatever was handy. But that was an accepted downside to having a dog - the companionship was one of the up-sides. I think on the whole people were more tolerant of imperfection back then.

Edit: And yes, the winters were colder. ;) Ice on the inside of the bedroom windows was the norm. Central heating? That's what rich folk had!

Good point JG but i have just read a thread in which you participated and added:

'The point is, if it's allowed under European law it's allowed here too, because rightly or wrongly (wrongly, IMO) EU laws overrule our own.

So why would you have to move abroad to live by these rules? :)

I don't want to live by EU laws - that's why I'm still here and campaigning against them!

Ok good for you! :)

Keswick is the most dog friendly town I know.  Not sure about any cafes that allow dogs in although lots have outside seating areas and the one on the lake side has a covered, sheltered, outside area where they are allowed however loads of the pubs that serve food do and that's what counts the most :)  Just about all the shops, bar food shops, allow them in too with many having bowls of water at the door and some having signs up signifying the welcomeness of dogs.

Keswick.... yes very nice....and good for food... makes it worth a trip!   lol..... looks like I only go places to eat!

On the K's that reminds me of one I missed.... Knaresborough!  There is a lovely place by the river which is is dog friendly. Has served us meals inside and outside with our dogs made very welcome. Not been for a few months though... these places can change with new ownership.

The Empress pub in Harrogate is dog friendly.

Harrogate is very lovely!  .... it's a right shame not even to be able to take posh dogs into Betty's though!  ;)

( Betty's though is delightful with babies and small children.. they show you real class!   :)  )

....the park is dog friendly on or off lead is great for kids and has a very small cafe with plenty of outside seating.

Osmotherley is wonderful!! We always go there as you don't have to bother about taking your dog. There are some lovely walkways as well last time we visited an old chapel i can't remember the name but it was a lovely walk. We normally park up in the hills and walk down sheepwash and past the river. The campsite has caravans and also takes tents as it's just down the road we have never stayed so i don't know if you have to book or not, i would think in the summer you may have to as it gets quite busy with walkers. I have a leaflet somewhere, i will try and dig it out, see if they have a website. The three tunns inn is the pub we frequent, they don't like doggies inside as it's a restaurant, but outside they have free roam. We have just got a new tent and keep meaning to try out there. We have also been meaning to try Harrogate as it's a lovely place so will keep the empress pub in mind. Not that we go to lots of pubs of course 
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I used to work at betty's, in the bakery itself.

Very nice... did you get treats to take home?

I used to eat at Betty's. ..life before kids and permanent brokeness! :rolleyes:

They ought to do American style posh doggie cookies to take home. That'd be cute.

I live in York & have no problem walking my dogs & always off the lead.

I agree with not walking dogs on the walls because unfortunately it is the small minority of people who do not clean up after their dogs who spoil it for the rest of us.

i sat in a beer garden last night with my dog and i can tell you he was a lot better behaved than the 2 kids running around......

Our post office adores me going with the dogs they refuse to let me stand outside and lean in to do what i need to lol (the one arm in one arm out approach), the local shop like them but having 2 dogs of their own which bark we don't go in there.
The pub is excellent they have an outside terrace which we've always been welcome to sit in undercover with a pool table and everything, or the beer garden and they don't mind ours being off lead aslong as we aren't bothering anyone which is fair enough.
The main bank in the next village let all 3 of mine in lol not that it happens often, everyone here is pretty accomdating and we don't abuse their kindness.
We've even camped on the other side of the island (it was a trial run to see if we liked it) and took all 3 dogs and weren't discriminated.

Sadly no parks but beaches that allow dogs and the beach that allows dogs recently won the whatever it is? they get the flag yet the beach further down that doesnt allow dogs didnt get it lol. :D :D

I think the key point in this lovely post is 'we dont abuse their kindness' :)