Hi Guys,

Just a couple of quick questions, firstly are their any breeders in the Ashton/Manchester area for rottweilers?? If not what sort of questions should i be asking about the pedigrees? i know to ask about hip scoring, but not to sure about pedigree questions apart from to avoid dog lovers registration!!!

Thanks Guys,

John

And girls?? :P

Yea sorry and girls :)

And girls ..........lol..........:D

Hi John,

Follow this link http://www.the-kennel-club.org.uk/discoverdogs/working/w869.htm it will give you contact details at the bottom of the page for breeders in your area.

As for questions, it's important to establish health tests have been done (as you know) and that the results are good!  and also that the breedling line is of good character.  Questions specific to the pedigree TBH will not be of much interest to you unless you are familiar with several generations of the breed ;)   Better to establish if the breeder is known to the Breed Club (not necessarily a memeber but with a good reputation) and why the litter has been bred (for eg. for the breeder to retain one to show / continue her line), how they have been reared and socialised etc.

HTH,
regards Teri not a "guy" :D

As teri say's.  The pedigree will only be worth looking at if you have similar knowledge to a breeder.

You want to ask yourself does the breeder you want a pup from seem respectable, want the best for her dogs, puppies and lines aswell as the breed itself.  If he/she breeding just to have puppies or is she wanting to have one to show, has a waiting list and wants to continue her line.

Good luck with finding a breeder and pup.  be prepared for the breeder to ask you lots of questions on your family, life, work etc.  They may seem personal questions but a good breeder want's his/her pups to go to the best possible homes :)

Don't go to a certain dog association around there that sells numerous breeds and I believe was the starter of another alternate registration system!

Used to know someone years ago that was in the breed but haven't been in contact with her for many years, they used to have wonderful temperaments too!

Sorry I can't be of any help but it's not a breed that I know much about!

You could go along to a champ show or two and have a look as well as contacting the breed club etc. That way you can see what dogs you like the look of and have a chat to the owners/breeders.  I did this and found most people more than happy to talk about their dogs AFTER they have been in the ring ;) It's a good way to make contacts in the breed.

Hi Teri,

Just to let you know i have rang the numbers from the contacts page as you suggested, the thing is non of them are hip scored, although one did say that "Pedigree kc reg champion bloodline holds 36 champion. 6 weeks free insurance, big and chunky bears wormed to date, tails and dew claws docked, 6 boys 4 girls. Ready 24 May, both parents owned, big & stocky exc temper absolutely beautiful" when asked about hip-scoring she said that the grand parents were hip-scored, with a total of seven.

Whats everyone think??

John

Don't touch and bargepole!! ;)

Think Val just covered my reply ;)

Hips are known to be a problem in the breed and I personally would want to know parents' scores. A big dog with dodgy hips is no fun for anyone and can seriously impair quality of life :(

Also, the fact that both parents are owned suggests that they have been bred for convenience rather than improvement of the breed.

I wouldn't buy one of these pups.

John, have you looked at the litters advertised on Champdogs?

Go to www.champdogs.co.uk>Guided Search>Working Group>Rottweiler>Puppies

Sounds like you have found the KC puppy list of litters registered and not the BREED CLUB CONTACTS which are at the bottom of the BREED STANDARD page.

Do not buy from parents that have not been hip scored, and ideally as many generations as possible should have good scores.

I would be rather put off if someone just raved about the success in the ring. Where's the mention of temperament and I wouldn't touch a litter that both parents hadn't been hipscored and the relevant tests for that breed
When I was searching for a pup I didn't bother going back to people who just sold their pedigrees.
The breeder I found for my breed just mentioned the health side and the temperament. It was only when I visited to pick my pup and got home to research the breeder that I found she had one of the top lines in the breed, the pedigree chart was more red than black with Champions, yet she didn't mention it to me once to try and sell her dogs.
Most of my showfriends by conincidence have rottis. And all of them are different in the way they look etc.
I would definately try and get to some shows and look at what you like. Buy a catalogue and perhaps speak to some of the breeders/exhibitors there.

Here's a link to help you tell the difference between a responsible breeder who is breeding to improve/maintain the breed standard and a backyard breeder who is breeding inferior pups to sell.

http://www.dogplay.com/GettingDog/breedercomparison.htm

A good little link Val :)

Just to add one thing, DON'T limit yourself to your local area. The perfect puppy for you may be in Cornwall, or Scotland (OR close by) -distance shouldn't matter as you are getting a pup that hopefully will be with you for the next 12 years or so, and finding the right pup from the right breeder matters most. None of my dogs have been bought locally, and hardly any of the pups I've bred have been sold locally. Even when I was married to a husband who didn't drive (and I don't either) I still managed to get from Yorkshire to Somerset and Hampshire etc to collect pups. :)

I will second that.  I am a non driver, but not only have I never bought a local dog, but I have never used a local dog on one of my bitches.  I have gone wherever I thought the most suitable dog was, even if that is abroad.

Thanks for all the advice guys & Girls :) !!

A great website is http://www.rottweilersdirect.co.uk

They only put accredited breeders on. I know alot of them, having rotts myself, and they would more than happy to talk to you about puppies.

There are alot of people here who have been in the breed years and would be more than happy to help you

Oh, by the way, there is the British Rottweiler Championship Show this weekend in Cambridgshire. It may be worth coming along. We usually have over 200 rotts at a Ch. show