Why are they so darn expensive??  I know that they are hard to mate and often need c - sections, but the prices are extortionate. I would truly love one but wont spend £ 2000 + for a dog,  wow!!

yes i was surprised at the price- particularly because they often have litters of ten! i cant understand the prices of chihuahuas either, i know they may only have one or two but some are £1500 and not even kc reg!

Pet quality litters everywhere , pet mother mated to some pet dog and still asking huge prices.  Someone recently tried to justify it by saying they have c-sections SO a lot of breeds do including small breeds who have few pups, another excuse I heard is they are hard to find HELLO the dog papers have more of these litters than any other.   Be interesting to see the end of years figures for puppies bred...

Another breed being distroyed :-(

If you're talking about Chihuahuas I have to say that I was quite surprised when checking out UK "scene". It is unbelievable that people breed so many pet quality dogs with limited registration and charge ridiculous prices all the same. Even more surprising is the fact that you can get a lovely KC reg puppy from a reputable breeder for almost half of that price!!! I can't understand why people decide to go to the first person that is advertising Chis in the local newspaper and pay 1500+ for a dog whose background is uncertain. Good breeder DOESN'T have to advertise his puppies at all!!
Funny thing though..... if you ask one of those BYB, they tell you that Chihuahuas are a very rare breed and that's why they are so expensive! LOL I don't think so..... they are rare in my country as we only have 2 breeders that only have 1 or 2 litters a year. But I would have to say that there are quite a lot of them and unfortunately very popular....... as said before Another breed being destroyed  !!

have  just seen puggles advertised-£950! do people really pay this much for crossbreeds? last time i saw some they were 600 so demand must have gone up. these people can only be in it for the money surely? they also say they are an approved liscenced breeder!  they have also crossed poodles with dalmations- to create curly dalmations! wont some look like poodles and some dallys? i have sent them a rude email but i expect i will be told to * off. they also have a litter of beagle cross poodles and pure beagles so thats 4 litters at once- must be a puppy farm?

Those puggles are being bred by a woman who rang me wanting a stud from our pug, this is the second litter she has had of these " mutts". If idiots pay these prices she will keep on producing. I think mutts are fab, just get one from the rescue centre for less than a £100 and save one from death row. She also has jrt x pugs as well, only £400, what a bargain!! not!!

She infuriates me, there are enough unwanted dogs in the world and people like her contribute to this list.
Alarm bells rang when she told me her labrador sires over 80 litters per year, not doing it money!!??  WHATEVER!!

PITY WE CANT NAME AND SHAME BREEDERS ISNT IT?

You can always phone the Inland Revenue Hotline (sorry haven't got tht number to hand) and state that Mrs XYZ  who lives at 123 Any Street etc would appear to be deriving an income from breeding dogs :)

They will take it from there!

Margot

Nice one Margot! At least their profits would go down.

by the way, the breeders were disapointed that the dally cross white poodles were born black! they are only £265 so they probably know they wont sell them. they claim they have curly coats and wont moult- 'ideal for alergy sufferers'- hope no one falls for that remark!

I saw two Labradoodles on Sunday for the first time, YUCK.  They were nothing like each other although the owners said that one was second generation bred so the coats won't moult on the second generation dogs.

Sorry to Visla owners but they actually looked in the head like Cross Visla's.  Couldn't see any resemblance to Poodles or Lab's.  The first generation just looked like your normal run of the mill cross and the other one well, I just didn't know what to think of the coat, very thick and woolly and I would think much harder to cope with than a Poodle's.  I was dying to ask how much they'd paid but didn't:rolleyes:

I saw two Labradoodles on Sunday for the first time, YUCK.  They were nothing like each other although the owners said that one was second generation bred so the coats won't moult on the second generation dogs.

I thought these Labradoodles etc..were half and half dogs rather then a 'breed' so how come this  second generation is still a 'Labradoodle'?  Or are they now a breed?

No they are not a breed and from what our KC says they won't be!  I also think the reputable KC's in America etc. won't be althought the rather unreputable ones will register them, as I suppose a certain registration company will do here in the UK unfortunately!

I know a 4th generation labradoodle. Looking at it you would have trouble guessing it's parentage and it most definitley moults...more so than my accidental crossbreed who is a product of 2 moulting breeds :rolleyes: The owners parted with £400 (about 4 years ago so cheaper than today's ridiculous prices) on the strength that they wanted a hypo-allergenic dog and got one that sheds as much as any mongrel they could have picked up in a shelter. Temperament of this particular dog leaves a lot to be desired too. Proof indeed that that there is one born every minute....

I've heard that a lot recently about Labradoodle's regarding temperament.

It seems that many people breeding them forget that Lab's and Poodle's have been used as working dogs and still do have those instincts.  They are not a fashion accessory and need something to keep their brains going!

I hate the way dog breeding is going. Far too many people think it is a way to a quick quid and there arer fools out there that will buy from back yeard breeders.  I dont know why bulldogs are so expensive, probably because they are difficult to breed from.  It is very sad that some people choose to own expensive dogs just with the intention of breeding from them to make a fast buck with no true interest in the breed. 

Problem is demand fuels the price, and good breeders can't sell for much less as they then risk their pups being resold at a profit, rather than re homed responsibly if the need arises.

I think when it comes to Bulldogs it is actually the fact that they're really, really difficult to breed. Quite frankly, I don't mind paying the price for a good quality pup from a reputable breeder.... I know he put a lot of energy and money into it and I know that I'm getting what I payed for. I do however have a problem with supporting back-yard breeders who only think about profit! And unfortunately there's way too many of those out there......

Just thought about this!! Have we made a breed difficult to breed by changing the way it is??. Quite scary to think that Bulldogs have been altered so much that they cant breed properly. Shouldnt something be done about that??

Also, I have seen countless litters available, some breeders are trying to shift older pups. So they are not a rare breed and are obviously managing to mate and get into whelp, so still cannot understand the rip off prices!!

My friend bred bulldogs for almost 12 years. She informs me that they were sometimes awkward to get to mate and mostly required c-sections, but even she agrees that the prices still do not warrant what they are, particularly with many having health problems and early deaths not uncommon.

Think I'll stick with my puggy and Rotts.

He, he they're not exactly my first choice either (no offence to owners), I'm kind of a "sporty dog" person and I like my dog to be able to run in the woods with me and go to Agility classes.
But since you mentioned Pugs...... how are they like? Are they difficult to breed? I'm asking because compared to their bodies, their heads are relatively big as well.........

i have heard they are hard to breed, often need sections and half the litter may die in the first 3 weeks! maybe thats why they are £1000!

I ahve also heard that they can be very poor mothers.

I dont breed pugs, but know plenty of breeders who do. Have to say have heard little to suggest they are poor mums, most of my friends have whelped naturally and have had little pup mortality. Some do need c sections I agree.  I paid £800 for mine and I find that is a suitable price.  The £1000 price tag has appeared from nowhere and has stuck it seems, so people will keep charging it.  Asking about though, many pug breeders are struggling to sell their litters immediately at that price and some reduce the price to about £800 to sell them. 

yes i have seen boys for 800 but they tend to stick to 1000 for girls. the mortality was told to be by someone who has bred them for 30 years so only going by what she said.

Margot, no need to fone, can do it off their website! :)

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I think calmstorm means contact the inland revenue Margot :D