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Topic Dog Boards / Health / seasons have been problematic
- By Betty Boop [gb] Date 31.05.06 22:30 UTC
I have a six year old staffy and since a pup her seasons have been horrendous and she loses so much blood bless her and is ill. we asked the vets advice who suggested a litter of pups might settle her down. Done this she had six beuatiful pups all homed near us.
However seasons seemed to settle then this last one in March was awful she was off her food and bleedinfg really heavily back to the vets who suggested spaying her but this could not happen till 8 to 12 weeks after a season. Well Monday night i noticed her ears were twitching alot and felt her she was very hot and i tried to keep her tempreture down. Phone the emergency vets when watery dark blood was seeping from her back end. The vet said it may be overflow as it sounds like she could be constpaited as she had not eaten for two days.
All night i sat up with her and kept her quiet and confortable as possible knowing i would be taking her to the vets first thing the next morning.
Well i was standing on thier steps the very next morning, by now she was gusting this dark watery blood from her back passage loads of it, she was very hot and panting rapidly.
The vet said she had developed a uterine infection and a clot of blood from her season had become lodged in her uterus and turned spetic and she was very ill. He needed to put her on a drip and intravenous antibiotics for a day and review if she was strong enough to operate and spay her and give her a scrape.
He said she would have been dead in fourty eight hours.
I feel very guilty that i allowed her to suffer and not realise and not to force the vets to look at her that night.
We went to visit her this evening and she is having her operation tomorrow (thursday) we hope she is ok i am sitting here worrying and scared to think of tomorrow. I am going down first thing in the morning to stay with her till she is ready.
Please if your still not happy at what a vet says please question them i wish i had may be she could have been relieved of her suffering sooner.
- By Brainless [gb] Date 31.05.06 23:10 UTC
What she has is called Pyometra and normally is most likely to occur 6 to 8 weeks after a season.

I am surprised the Vet suggested breeding from her, as in my and many other breeders expereicne bitches seasons often get longer and heavier with age and breeding.

I hope she comes through the spay without incident.
- By calmstorm Date 01.06.06 07:50 UTC
The vet wants a kick in the backside! I cant believe (but I do) that they let things get so bad for this poor bitch. If I was the OP I would get the bitch well, then change vets pronto. I could never trust them again, thats for sure. But, don't feel guilty for what is their problem, they were to damn lazy to turn out, what you told them should have sent alarm bells ringing in their heads.

I really hope all goes well with your girl, very very best wishes for a speedy recovery x
- By Brainless [gb] Date 01.06.06 07:54 UTC
Yes that is what I thought too.

Bitch in season two months ago with history of problematic seasons, and they didn't think pyometra???
- By ice_queen Date 01.06.06 09:41 UTC
Hope that your girl does make a full recovery and don't feel bad.  I know how much trust many people put in vets as they are the ones who are ment to know.

If I was you I would change vets ASAP if possible.  I can't believe a vet suggested a litter as there are so many consequences :(
- By onetwothree [gb] Date 01.06.06 11:56 UTC
I think you need to change your vets.

Vets should not be advising people to have litters of puppies - as you have discovered, this doesn't solve anything.  It doesn't make seasons more regular, it doesn't "calm" down high energy dogs - it has ABSOLUTELY no impact on the bitch behaviourally or medically, long term.  (Assuming everything goes well with the pregnancy - of course things go wrong and you could end up with problems!).  Combine that with the fact that rescue centres are OVERFLOWING with dogs, particularly with Staffies and that the Kennel Club itself has issued statements about the overbreeding of staffies, and your vet is downright irresponsible to be suggesting such a course of action.  The only thing he should have been suggesting, even at that stage, was a spay.

And I echo what others have said here about not noticing the signs of pyo - he should have had her in as an emergency, not left her suffering at home all night.  Disgusting.

If I were you I would not only be changing vets, but reporting him to the BVA. 
- By Betty Boop [gb] Date 01.06.06 20:14 UTC
thank you all for your comments and when we bred my dog all her pups were given away not sold on condition they stayed near me so i could keep an eye on them.
My lovely dog became very distressed yesterday and they asked if we would like to take her home but if she deterioated she would have to be rushed back and i would have an emergency call out fee. I refused to take her home, she then asked if we could come and visit her to settle her down i said i thought this would distressher further they said i dont think so. My husband and i went down to see her spent an hour with her and when we left we could hear her crying like a baby.
I said i would come down and stay with her this morning so she was settled before they operated on her. I arrived at 8.45 to be told she was in recovery as she had gone down hill early this morning and they had to operate on her. i was shocked no one phoned me. Anyway folks she survived her operation and she return home in her cage at three this afternoon. They placd one of those collars on her and i said she wont have that on long they said she cannot get them off but three afters later it was off and she is very settled now.
Yes i am changing vets once they have taken her stictches out. It is luck i did not take her home when they suggested.
Once again thank you all for your replies and suggestion they are very comforting.
- By Brainless [gb] Date 01.06.06 21:12 UTC
I just can't believe they waited to operate, it should have been done there and then as an emergency.
- By RRfriend [se] Date 01.06.06 23:33 UTC
Can only agree with everyone else, I'm not impressed with your vet. If your girl isn't wearing her elisabethean collar, don't forget you'll have to watch her constantly. One of our neighbours had their bitch spayed due to pyometra, just like your girl. They felt sorry for her, took the collar off, ten minutes later they found her with her intestines falling out. Don't want to scare you, just point out the seriousness of her being able to reach the stiches.
Good luck to you and your girl,
Karen
- By ice_queen Date 01.06.06 23:48 UTC
Glad your bitch is ok and on recovery.  Again I don't see why the vet waited like brainless said.  I know when our bitch had pyo we called the vet 8pm at first sign of discharge, because she had only eaten not even 2 hrs before hand and the pyo was open she was in the vets 7am next morning unless she showed signs of becoming worse or started being sick then she would go in ASAP.

Good luck with your girls recovery and I wish her back to full health as soon as possible.
- By Betty Boop [gb] Date 05.06.06 00:35 UTC
Hi folks
well vicky my staff is well on the road to recovery, she is doing fantastic. never once touch her wound which is large, she is trying to jump about like a puppy and eating and drinking well. Her walk is limited and she looks so well now.
My hubby refuses to leave her on her own and she is now sleeping on her bed in the bedroom. I think she has wised up to beig a patient a slight whimper and we come running Haha.
I am fift eyars of age had numerus dogs during my lifetiime i have never heard of this thing Pyo. my bitch has to have her stitches out on tuesday and once they have discharged her she will be changing to a new vets from then on.
Thank you all for your kind words and support and concerns once again
- By RRfriend [se] Date 05.06.06 03:49 UTC
Good to hear Vicky is doing fine. :-p
There is no way we can know of all the things that can threaten our dogs. That's why we consult a veterinarian when our dogs are ill ;-)
I think it's a wise deciscion to change your vet, as you obviously don't trust him anymore.
Vicky is making the most out of being a convalescent, good for her :-D
Karen
- By Brainless [gb] Date 05.06.06 08:10 UTC
If you type Pyometra into google you may like to read up on the condition for your own reference.

I am so glad she is on the mend.  Dogs are remarkably resilient.

Bitches after spaying for Pyo invariably show marked improvement in their wellbeing, as often the problem has been brewing and undermining how they feel for a while, so the contrast to feeling better is so marked.
- By AlisonGold [gb] Date 05.06.06 18:04 UTC
So glad to hear Vicky is now well. I agree with you about changing your Vets, they could well have lost her with that attititude over what is a potentially a life threatening illness.  I took my 9 year old in a couple of weeks ago because I thought she had cystitis, then just before the appointment I noticed blood on her back end (she had finished her season about 2 weeks prior).  My Vet scanned her while we were in the consulting room, said it was a pyometra, but luckily only in its early stages, took her in at 3.45pm and rang me at 4.30pm to say she had had her operation.  Now that is how a Vet should react!.  Hope you find a good Vet, mine is just wonderful!!!!
- By Betty Boop [gb] Date 05.06.06 20:38 UTC
once again thank you all i will read up on this, alsion i am glad your little girl was seen so quickly.
i am angry, this may be just another dog to him but my little girl is one of my precious babies.
I know she was getting back to her old self today as she was teasing our african grey parrott, and the parrott starts shouting vicky get down be quiet. Things are normal again.
thank you all
- By Betty Boop [gb] Date 13.06.06 19:02 UTC
well i just thought i would give the final update on my staffy vicky, today she had her stitches out and has been discharged, new vets to see her on friday. My little girl made a complete recovery she is like a puppy again very loving and a shiny coat and bright eyes and cold nose. Thank god it never ended in tragedy. i would like to thank evryone on here for their great advice and support
- By RRfriend [se] Date 14.06.06 00:05 UTC
So pleased to hear your girl is well and happy :-p
Karen
- By calmstorm Date 14.06.06 08:38 UTC
Fantastic news on your girl, so pleased to hear she is well on the way to recovery :) Dont blame you on changing vets, the original ones need a good kick in the jacksy! Cant understand why they would ignore such a life threatening condition. But there you go :(  It happens. Your hubby sounds a big softy :D
- By newfiedreams Date 14.06.06 11:28 UTC
Betty, better tell me who the stoooopid Vet is, so I can go round and thump them for you!!!! You can't believe some of them can you!!??

So glad she is ok now and recovering well, all the best, Dawn X
- By AlisonGold [gb] Date 14.06.06 19:18 UTC
Delighted your girl is doing so well.  Hope it all works out with your new Vet.
Topic Dog Boards / Health / seasons have been problematic

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