I see on this weeks cover of Our Dogs that there is an advert for "Great Dane - future CHAMPION puppies" !!! So why bother breeding or training your own when you can buy one in!!! I'm astonished that this advert was allowed by OD and also that people are prepared to state that, then what happens if they don't make it into Champions?? Do you get your money back??? Or sue them under the Trades Descriptions Act??? Also noted is the 'matle' coloured dogs?? Not an accepted colour according to our KC???? There's no such 'colour' as Mantle in the Breed standard??? Hmmm a sticky wicket I feel?? What say you??

All the best, Dawn

How can they advertise them as Champions?? :rolleyes:

I don't get OD but am shocked by this!  I will have to buy a copy now to read it

Oh dear, :rolleyes: who dares to give them a ring for a ''little chat''?

Dawn R.

What if someone buys a pup, sorry 'future champion' and it never actually becomes a champion :rolleyes: will they sue because the dog wasn't fit for the purpose? - of being a champion that is ;) under the trades description act etc. :rolleyes: 

I know a breeder in cats who used to sell her kittens as future champions, should have seen the one owner when my cat went best of breed at a champ show :D   She was livid, had me up against the cages demanding how much I paid and where!!!    She then turned her attention to the judge   It was nasty, turned out she'd paid a fortune for the cat and the breeder had sold it as a future champion

Mantle/Boston Blacks are considered to be a mis-mark in the UK.

Would that apply to Ireland though as they will be judged under  FCI rules over there and this is where these pups are?
I dont know so just asking

Mantles are an accepted colour under FCI. In the UK the KC have agreed to amend the standard to accept them, but they are discussing the exact wording still with the breed clubs.
No puppy can ever be a sure Champion, and in a giant breed where so much can go wrong in the rearing its an amazing comment.

I wasn't commenting on the fact that to state future champions in the advert is at least silly if not downright stupid and l am suprised that the advert was accepted with  that wording by Ours Dogs. They have opened a can of worms for the future of these puppies as I dont believe they will all be come champions and left themselves open to being sued for false advertising at least.
I was just interested in the acceptability of the colouring  under the FCI rules.

If you think the advert is wrong then why not contact John Holden, the advertising manager of Our Dogs? His contact details are on page two of the paper. Not everybody working in this area is totally up on all things doggie, it might even be a temp who has taken the ad. It can only be changed or challenged if people raise it for John Holdens attantion.

Must admit I have not seen the ad and do not even bother to read the ads most of the time anyway, so can't really do anything about it this time, but if I had seen it I would have written to John Holden then asked fellow champdoggers to write in support so that it is less likely to happen in the future. Having said that I suppose what an advertiser pays to have printed is not anybodies business but it is up to us to choose to believe such outlandish claims or not.

Yes, I would think that most people that read the 'dog press' would be relatively experienced, and not be taken in by adverts like this. So the advertiser is really only embarassing themselves.

Less experienced puppy buyers might be more inclined to believe the claims, so an advert in one of the monthly mags that appeal to pet owners, as opposed to exhibitors, might have created more interest, from the naive.

Dawn R.

I'm in touch with David Cavill on another site I visit, OD don't seem too worried about it and doubt they will get sued!! Amazing what's allowed when money is involved huh?? Mabye I'm getting too old and cynical??!!! LOL

Newfiedreams I was the one who put on the other site about the possibility of them being sued and then read David's reply!

As he said though many dog food manufacturers state in their advertisements that they are the best butwe don't necessarily think so.  I must admit I myself would be unhappy putting an advert like that oin a paper if I owned the paper!

Yes, I know, but I still can't believe they would allow an advert like that!!!!

Must admit I have not seen the ad and do not even bother to read the ads most of the time anyway,

Polly it's right slap bang on top of the FRONT page of this week's issue! :D