I am in the middle of researching my bitches pedigree, I intend to breed her when the time is right and I am just trying to find out hip scores of the dogs in her pedigree, most of them I have, but a couple I am struggling with finding, they are

Kelnik Imogen
Manorwolf Navarro
Guyhirn Verhex Moon
Mira Vodn der Rolandsbury

Oh lol I forgot to say, she is a GSD, if anybody know any of the above dogs scores, if indded they were scoed at all, please help, thank you:rolleyes:

Come on guys, don't be shy lol, all you GSD experts out there 

Got a while yet to research this, she is only 13  1/2 months old yet, but I would like to have the complete picture before mating, if you don't know the scores, maybe you know where I could find them?:rolleyes:

You could phone the Kennel Club and ask, it's published information so I can't see them having an issue with providing it.

M.

Can you contact your breeder for help?

I doubt the breeder would know as the dogs are I'm interested in are a couple of generations in. She has only entered the Dam and Sires scores on my dogs ped, she won't know I'm sure but I will try.

The way it's looking at the moment is about 70% of the ped is scored, right back into 5th gen, so I'm pretty sure these dogs must be scored too. I will keep trying to find out.:rolleyes:

The KC do not have the info and I am just wondering if it could be because the dogs are not english, they could be scored under a diiferent scheme, especially if they are german

Correct spelling I assume for Mira is here, although no hipscore info. (Not trying to be a smart.... if it was a typo, but will be easier to find info this way if you have been given incorrect spelling.)

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/389876.html

If the dogs are german they will have been (if they have) analysied under an entirely different system to ours, and their records will only be able to be accessed by the German Kennel Club body, possibly not even those. They will not be held by the Uk KC and so therefore its unlikely they will be able to help you. If you say they are only a couple of generations into the pedigree then your breeder should have them on record even if she only recorded the sire and dam.

Di

No info on the data base, ty for that, I think my best hope is that one of these dogs appears on somebody elses pedigree as a Dam or Sire to their dog, I thin only then I will find out if they are scored and that is only if that person sees it lol it's hopeless

I'm not going to post a link because of the cans of worms it may open, but have you googled all the names? Assuming it's not your site, one of the dogs features in pedigrees of a breeder who talks about hip scoring, you could try contacting them and asking. :)

M.

...If course however worthy your research is, breeding is about the whole dog and therefore not finding just a few small things on its hips out. Other factors on even the most perfect hip history can render an dog or bitch unsuitable for breeding.

Gosh I sound like everyones favourite champ dogs dissaproving aunt, but hips, whilst important are only one bite of the cherry so do research everything before breeding, not just that.

Sorry to sound like a prude but breeding only for hips can lead one into darkness ;-)

Di

thank you for your comments but I an not just breeding for hips, My bitch has one of the most outstanding temps I have ever come across and rather than take a chance on buying in a pup from somewhere which perhaps hasn't got the same great temp I have decided to beed her. I just thought it would be a very intersting thing to do, and as it turns out it has been, the research has thrown up a couple of champs in ped I did not know about and at the end of the day I will have to find homes for the other pups, it would be great to be able to state 5 gens hipscored instead of just Mum an Dad.:rolleyes:

Lily it is not me talking about one of mine. Please give me a hint were I can find this site:rolleyes:

I have PM'd you. Wasn't implying that you were advertising yours, was just saying there wouldn't have been much point showing you in the direction of your own site. :D

M.

Entirely agree and good luck!
Di

Ty, makes a change to get encouragement on here instead of a damn good roasting lol:rolleyes:

Agree again with knobs on! ;-)  ;-)

Di

Kelnik Imogen-UK bred by Ir CH Quarryvale Nero who would have been scored/HD tested
Manorwolf Navarro-UK bred
Guyhirn Verhex Moon-UK bred
Mira Von Der Rolandsburg-German import not HD tested in Germany Imported by Greenveldt kennels If you look here
you will see siblings who are HD tested & some that are not. Odds are she was scored in the UK as she was bred to Exl VD Batu.

My spelling of Mira was incorrect and I took it from a pedigree purchased from the KC

Ty for clearing that up

What makes you so sure that Kelnik Imogen was scored? any idea on how I might find out?:rolleyes:

Have just had an email from a lady called Carole Brookes (kintonkaiz) who I personally don't know, but contacted because this dog appears on one of her peds, she reckons that it wasn't scored, but it's parents were, which I knew already as her Dad is IR CH Quarryvale Nero.

Lol getting nowhere with this, MM I would be really interested to know why you thought she would have been scored, I am about to give up on this dog, no one seems to know conclusively one way or the other.

Do you know who bred her???  

If scored in the UK the Kennel club will be a ble to tell ypou as it wil be on their records, and it is a matter of public record so no problem getting the info.

I have in the past asked them for Hip and eye status of a dog whose owner I might approach about a dog for stud, but wanted to be sure of that info first so as not to cause embarasment if I didn't like the result. :D

Thanks for all your help folks but I think I can safely say this dog has not been scored

Do you know who bred her??? Bridget Fahy bred Imogen & yes I know her

What makes you so sure that Kelnik Imogen was scored?

You have misread my post Nero would have been scored otherwise I doubt people who I know would have used him

Haven't a clue re the Kelnick bitch

You may be able to check with the BVA re the scores as they are in the public domain as the KC publish them

Having looked at the pedigree the UK reg dogs are on I doubt they were scored as the breeding concerned is more colour orinatated that show/working

I do wish the KC would be like the SV & refuse toi register puppies from untested dogs & bitches

Re the spelling I'm not surprised there were monumental c*ck ups in the details KC database for the dogs in My BC puppies pedigrees that have puppies registered with the KC(my puppy is from ISDS breeding so his parents aren't KC reg but some dogs in their pedigrees have puppies registered with the KC)

Hi Shanti,did you know that you can purchase a cd rom disc from the kennel club with all the hip score results on,im not sure how far it goes back but there are literally thousands of dogs on there and each dogs results also gives you the parents score if any.I have this disc and can have a look for you when i get a chance(it can take ages to go through),or you can ring the kennel club and ask to purchase one for yourself,it costs only £15,just ask for the german shepherd one as there are different discs for each breed.I will have a look at mine as i've just realised you have the same lines as one of my dogs.

Infact they will just simply email the info to you for you to save on your computer if you would rather this than a CD rom. The best contact is Gary Johnson in the Information Department at the Kennel Club to obtain such databases by email or CD Rom. You have to sign a form first to say you won't share the info publically.

Di