I was just shopping at Asda earlier, and noticed a little boy with a young husky. The boy was howling at the husky, but the husky in return was making a whining sound, was the husky distressed, or was he trying to howl back but failing? I don't come across this breed very often so don't know much about them. 

they have husky's in asda???

No surprisingly the doggy was tied up outside! :).

....sorry but SNORT! Chuckle! Spits coffee all over screen!!!

I can just picture them behind the free pizza tasting table, next to the cream crackers and just a shuffle from the VERY reasonably priced beach balls... ;-)

(Sorry - get a grip woman! I shall now read the rest of the thread with facinated interest).
Di

Hard to say without having seen it myself..
Ive had Huskies that would 'call' and 'sing' like troopers at any prompt (usually picking up harness's etc)
The whine is usually a whine though,anticipation,anxiety..
Storm looks bewildered at anyone who howls at him (and why do people do this???? )
His usual conversation is lots of rumbling wooo-woooo-woo-woooo's
Only Howls when we go to rallies (although he's never run!)
Then its a full head tilt then yammering barking (which he never does anywhere else either!)

Misty who-hoos a lot (talking), usually when she wants something or is pleased.  I have only heard her whine when her cage is collapsed (deliberately), so I would say if it sounded like a whine then the pup was distressed, probably because the it was tied up outside Asda.  Misty will howl if we start her off or to the alarm clock and the cooker timer going off - quite handy really :rolleyes:

Thanks for the info i was just wondering, as i was in two minds wether or not to say anything as i didn't know if this was normal behaviour or not.

he might have been whining for his owners in Asda?

Well i couldn't decide if the young boy was his family or not, and if he was trying to teach it to howl maybe?

i cannot believe anyone would be stupid enough to tie a husky up outside a shop.

why is it any worse than tying any dog up outside a shop???

...I think the poster was expressing disgust at dogs in general being tied up outside shops these days, but because the thread is about a Husky...he used the word 'Husky' instead of 'dogs'....

My take in MHO
Di

hi di,

ok, maybe read it wrong.....just curious that was all.

.... Also maybe because of the nature of the breed (not that it is big or clever to leave ANY dog outside ANY shop) it seemed an even more ridiculous thing for the owners to do. Maybe - just speculating of course...

Di

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Nope...Ive read it every which way...but I still dont get why anyone would even begin to class  an abandonment of care of duty,according to the dog breed???
     To my mind the risk factors of being out of eye sight and ear shot, theft,injury,abuse, being fed chocolate or worse apply to all dogs of all breeds,shapes and sizes.....surely?????

I think this could be forgotten. Its no matter surely what the chap said or why he said it, his point was obvious. Don't leave dogs outside shops!

lets not over analyize everything on here, tone, pitch, punctunation, deeper meaning to an inch of its life or it loses any humour and constructiveness.

You know the what the chap meant. Whether he said Husky or dog doesn't matter a jot!
Di

your propagating this Di (again :rolleyes:) not me..
I simply think that classing the risk to specific breeds is moot, Im not debating or analyizing anyones tone my response was actually in reply to your statement not your tone/pitch/et al.. or anyones elses.
Enough.
My statement stands as I do unmoved.

...Just call me Baffled from Sompting on this one.
Di

>being fed chocolate

Right, my plans for the weekend are now sorted....I'm going to tie myself outside Asda in the hope that someone will feed me chocolate :D

Me too! I will take the one in Lincoln :D :p

Look what i have started I am not sure if anyone had left the dog outside as he was not alone, i hope the boy was part of his family or it would seem evevn worse!! :).

just to clarify....yes i said husky...yes i meant husky.....i would have said this regardless of breed.....i get irate at seeing anybreed outside a shop & have been known to lecture owners on their return

hi sam,

as i said above, i was just curious about your use of the word 'husky'.  i def agree with you.....no dog should tied up and left outside a shop.

hope you werent offended by my post there was certainly none of this :

>over analyize everything on here, tone, pitch, punctunation, deeper meaning to an inch of its life or it loses any humour and constructiveness.< 

intended

next time i'll ask in a pm

I think you will need to lecture me then Sam :)  I often drop in at the shop on the way back from our walk.  As a very dog friendly town with lots of pubs and eateries welcoming dogs this is very common people just take their dogs about with them, there are usually 2 or 3 outside the supermarket, a couple outside Boots and always one outside Oxfam :).I am one of the few that ties theirs up!  Dogs going walkabout round her though are so rare that it makes the local papers.  I think taking risk into account with livestyle is perfectly reasonable after all how many of us use the crumple zone in the car bootwell to travel their dogs because it suits their life style. I put my hand up to that one too :)

>Dogs going walkabout round her though are so rare<

'rare'..but happens...still, odds that are too high for me to comtemplate ;)
prefer to be proactive than the awful regret of having to be reactive.

I'm talking about dogs going missing on walks or escaping from gardens though I have never seen a theft or suspected theft reported round these parts but certainly, I think its reasonable to opt not to :). But as someone who travels their dog in the bootwell and occasionally crosses the road with her without pressing the light on the pelican crossing I don't think my choice is unreasonable either :)

Here is a photo of mine outside the Post Office a few years ago (it is now a yuppy pub). http://barbelka.95mb.com/_wp_generated/wp70ab2bf8.jpg

I once saw a "mischievas" child (actually a brat) untie a ckcs outside a shop & watched the dog run into the road & get killed.  I have a friend who tied their elderly black lab outside the PO to get a paper & a mother/child came along, child bent over dog which was lieing down minding own business. Dog deaf so was frightened & jumped up quickly, banging childs chin & causing child to bite own tongue...lots of blood. Mother screaming "dog bitten child" ended up as court case & dog destroyed. Another friend (colleague ) tied her lurcher up outside village shop & it was frightened by something, we will never know what.....slipped his collar & ran under a lorry.......dog theft is only part of it.....so yes I would be lecturing you if I saw your dog tied up.

You could lecture me if you like but I would just say I have a sense of proportion :)  Obviously I would not leave my dog if she was deaf or frightened.  Dogs have been know to slip their leads in the company of their owners perhaps we should never take our dogs out without an extra lead attached :rolleyes:

oh Isabel...really...come on!!

>sense of proportion< is absolutely right.

If my dog slips its lead in the company of its owner (me!) then I am right there to give an 'AAh!' or recall command or 'Down'
   If Im in a shop and out of eye sight and ear shot..........
Do I reaaaaaaaaaaally have to explain this????
ROFL :D :D
your a devil for a protracted debate!! (lawdy..where's my gin! I must stop reading this thread,soo silly.)

Protracted!  I've only just started :D
Believe me if Amber slipped her lead I would find her at the meat counter :) Not everybodies dog would respond to a drop command anyway, in fact don't huskys have a little bit of reputation in that deparment ;) but returning to the sense of proportion.....I have never had a lead slipped in 30 years.  I've heard of dogs being killed in RTAs but nobody would consider lecturing people that take the tiny risk of an unnecessary car journey to exercise their dogs because they simply find that a more pleasurable lifestyle than taking the dull old walks from the doorstep :)

Mine are so used to the routine they lie down and I doubt they would move from where i told them to stay, as they would still think they were tethered.  Also means I can pop to the shops after dark adn feel safer with the dogs for company, and they benefit from the extra walks.

>Not everybodies dog would respond to a drop command anyway<

Nitpicker! :P
which was why I listed

>sit,stay...or a recall command..or down<

(It was merely one of many permatations,surely one of those I listed will work for those that dont choose to use 'down' per se) :P

>in fact don't huskys have a little bit of reputation in that deparment<

for the 'down' command specifically?
The breed standard for Sibes (temperament):

>Intelligent,Tractable and eager disposition<

Ive never had a problem training this (Only trained 6 Sibes, present one with no training prior to me taking him on at 15 months) granted.."use it or lose it" with Sibes I'll always have to keep on top of that training. But show A Sibe 'the point' in it all and they are very receptive, a Good Sibe has a 'Good Head'.
Irene Stapley (past winner of Crufts Supreme Obedience Championship) had great success with Cheechako's Eugency & Rajarani Simply Red (Siberians) Julie Maguire's Siberians...... I could go on!.. ;) ;) :P

Not really nitpicking, I could have listed them all but that wasn't the point.  I was under the impression that husky's were not reliable off lead from previous threads on here but I don't really know them so I obviously accept your opinion being a HuskyGal :) but the point remains there are lots of dogs would be straight off without a backwards glance, of any breed.  As I say, though, I have never had a collar slipped in 30 years of walking dogs so I won't loose sleep over that one :)

Me too I take the dogs on all my errands ( I don't drive) as I begrudge the dogs not getting the benefit when I have to walk :D

I work on the principle of my dogs being unusal enough and me being well known enough around here, and also no-one is brave enough to try and nick three or more.

Their tags do clearly state they are chipped and tattooed.

Completely see your point Brainless! :)
I was really just commenting on the 'on topic' example of a large Hypermarket,such as ASDA... personally as I said there are too many risk factors (for my liking) in such a place due to the higher volume of traffic (as in Foot flow coming and going) also the large decals/stickers/till points obscuring window view,eye line to my dog.. and the fact that in such volumes of people not all will know me or my dog dog! very different to a village/local shop..to which of course the risks/ variables then go down, like you say you and your dogs are known there.

I think that is fair enough, size does matter :).  Although the lay out helps too.  Our tie up area is overlooked by the cafe which has an outside bit, always busy with you smoking types, behind a low railing too so any potential thief would not know I wasn't sitting there. I would not do it in a area I did not know well, either.

I could tell you a shameful story of friends dog that I walked and a newsagents, and my Dad passing in car.

Could you put me down for a good castigation too, thank you please? Only I leave Nips tied up outside the village post office. Admittedly it has a frontage off the road but for all that I am clearly a Very Bad Person because he is All on his Own. And sometimes left for a whole 2 or 3 minutes. ;)