i have a border collie of 3, and we have a akita of 6 months, both males,
now the akita leaves all the other dogs alone, that i have and has taken a dislike to my 3 year old collie, the akita will constantly eyeball my collie, i can't let them out in the garden together as the akita will pick a fight with the collie,sometime in the house my collie will walk past the akita and the akita will just lunge at him for no reason, yet they can many a time lie side by side in the house, and they will lick each other and pat each other with their paws then all of a sudden all hell breaks loose,
the collie is a 3 year old entire male and the akita has never had any testicles at all.
what can i do to stop this happening i know the breeder will take the akita back as i have spoken to her about this, but i would rather try and sort the problem out than send him packing,
he gets fed last, he gets groomed last, he gets trained last, he walks through the door after i do, he seems only to kick off when my OH is about, the thing is my chinese crested can put this mountain of a dog in his place, but  my collie will not even turn back to bite in defence, why and why is he doing this
thanks in advance
carol

It sounds very much to me that your Akita is moving up the heirarchy, and you are not letting him. Your collie is, though, by accepting the Akita's behaviour. Start feeding your Akita before the Collie, in fact do everything with him more. Elevate his place. If you don't I'm afraid he will take it into his own hands (or should that be paws? ;) ) Does you OH have anything to do with him? Or any of the dogs? I only ask because that can also make things upset. If your OH treats the dogs differently to you then the dogs get mixed information, which can cause problems. Hope it all resolves itself without you having to return you dog :)

lindylou, the akita dotes on my OH, to the point when we first  got him he would pee on the floor if my OH left the room, he would howl also when OH left the room that has been sorted out now and  he understands that OH is comming back,
can i also ask why is he only going for the one male when he gets on so well with the other 4 males
carol

It is genrally accepted that Akita's will not tolerate another dog of the same sex,a dn are never left alone with another dog of either sex, as they are extremely dog dominant.  they are far too powerful to take a chance even if you think you have them getting on, as you could end up with a blood bath, and this is soemthing I ahve been told my Akita owners.

Brainless is right. Many Akita males simply will not tolerate another male in the same household. If he's doing this at 6 months, it doesn't seem likely he will accept him when he's fully mature, Never leave them alone together.

Read the akita breed standard, then you need wonder no more, it will tell you what youd need to know.

Having only seen Akitas at shows, I really know nothing about them. Only that I think they are beautiful dogs :-)  The breed standard describes well the imposing dogs I've seen, it's easy to read and understand, I think.
But as said in above posts, breed standard says: Agressive towards other dogs. I read this as agressive to other dogs,both male and female. Not just males being male agressive? Anyone here who knows more? If I've understood this right, I then find it difficult to see how an Akita breeder can sell a (male) pup to a family that includes dogs already Unless the buyers are well aware of what they are taking on.
Wishing OP the best of luck, hoping everything will work out for the best.
Karen

I know absolutely nothing about Akita's, so can't be breed specific I'm afraid. There is an Akita male that comes to ringcraft that is kept on a very tight lead as he growls at everything that moves. There is another that comes that is a dream to be near. Though it is only a youngster. It lives with other dogs and so far they haven't had a problem. Personality? Or just good luck? I don't know the answer.

As to your collie turning away, he probably was bottom of the pack and will therefore be the first in line for the push. Once that one is 'sorted out' by the Akita then he will go onto the next one, until he is top of the pack, or has been put in his place. I'm sorry to have to say this, but it could get a lot worse before it gets better, if it ever does. :(

I have no experience of akitas but would in this instance be careful as they do seem to be dogs that cannot always live comfortably with another dog. It's not being "breedist" but more factual :)

If the dog is still like this when he is older an awful lot of damage could be done to your collie. I'd not risk it myself - I'd get in professional advice to checkout what the problem is (ie is it to do with the actual breed,  a behavioural problem which could be sorted out, or something else like a medical problem ) Try www.apbc.org.uk, also www.apdt.co.uk for some help and further advice :)

Lindsay
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Let's get this straight. The breed standard does not say aggressive towards other dogs. What it does say is:
"tends to show dominance over other dogs" which is not the same thing at all.
Akitas are usually OK with the opposite sex - my Akita is fine with my girls, but no way will he tolerate another male on the premises. I knew that that was a risk when we bought him (I had 2 other males at the time) & hoped if he grew up with them he would be OK. By the time he was 8 months he was challenging my younger dog & after their 1st fight they were kept seperate for the next 7yrs.
I do know some Akita males who live together without problems, but I think they are the exception rather than the rule.
The dominance thing is a pain, but they are such a wonderful people dog it's worth putting up with.

The link that now seems to have disappeared from this thread, went to the american breed standard. It said agressive towards other dogs. Obviously the KC breedstandard says different. Which to me sounds good. As the breed standard is what is used when trying to breed the perfect dog, the use of "dominace towards" gives a better goal to aim at. Sorry Anwen if I offended you or the breed, no such intentions.
Karen

With a dominant breed puppy dog starting with the lowest ranking sounds logical and what you would expect, so I would expect fighting to happen with the others if given the opportunity as he gains in strength and maturity. 

Because of their size and power even at 6 months they are capable of doing a lot of damage to the other dogs, especially ones that are only half their size.

No probs, Karen - we just get such a bad press sometimes that the owners start getting aggressive :D :D (just showing you my teeth) :)

We have an Akita that lives next door, although she doesn't like other dogs is (previous owners fault) fantastic with people especially kids, the owner is a child minder.

No different to many other breeds that should not be kept with same sex dogs in the same household.  Sadly people don't do the research on the breed they choose.

A lady stopped me and my lot a few months ago (when I still had five) telling me she was getting one of those soon.

Oh I said who from, as I know all the Elkhound breeders.  Elkhound she said, but aren't they Malamutes , I am getting a male Malamute pup next week!

I told her about the training class I help at and she should bring him as socialisation would be helpful as they were a dominant breed with other dogs.

Oh she said, yes I said, should not be kept with their own sex.  Well she told me that she has a three year old entire male Border Collie.

Needless to say I have not seen her at training class, and a few months ago she was driving around looking for the dogs as the five month old pup and the collie had escaped.

I agree entirely with Brainless and others, I know this breed well and to be honest the breeder should not have allowed you to take him with other males in your home, maybe she is a new and rather green breeder as she should have known this.

If you can face returning him then I would do so, you are asking for trouble and your Collie and perhaps other dogs will get seriously hurt.

On their own or with a female Akitas are fabulous dogs, I entirely blame the breeder.