Hi all, i'm not mentioning breeds etc or want to know the answer in money value, i'm just curious (being nosey :-) )
Percentage wise how much more expensive is it to import a dog into the UK?
We've spoken to loads (well it seems like it) of people at shows (we're really show newbies) etc who have imported dogs and beforehand had never really thought a lot about it so were quite surprised.  I found it stressful enough looking for breeders, and doing the research etc over here in the UK, LOL

It depends on a lot of factors. If you were going to use Pets Passports you'd need to find a breeder that would be willing to keep a pup for the required months (youngest possible would be 10 months of age), and some may of course want the pup's keep paid for during this time -or it would have to be an adult that already had a passport. If it had to be via quarantine, the costs would increase dramatically of course.

about  £2000.00 for very thing from pupcost. health test hip/eyes.eu passort and care for a year until it able to come to the uk at over year if thats a pup

Depending on how well you know the breeder your dog is coming from ;) When I get another GSD(not for a good few years as our rescue is only 10)he will be coming from a very close friend who breeds working GSDs in Germany & apart from the PP & transport & visiting him as a baby puppy etc there won't be any money changing hands(my friend has already told me this)

However if it is a more formal arrangement there will be the dog/puppy purchase price which may be more or less than here in the UK & then the care of the dog(if a puppyor if an adult & hasn't already got a UK compliant PP) the microchip & rabies vacc & titre test.Then just the transport to UK

If the dog already has a UK compliant PP you could just buy the dog & return to the UK.of course

If the country is outside the PP scheme then quarantine/or residence in a PP country until a UK PP is available

The cost excluding the dog could be £2,000 upwards

Cost us £3000 to bring our boy through Quarantine, and his purchase price was very reasonable, only what a Puppy would cost here.

i still think 2 to 3 thousand this good if you are bring in the right dog for new bloodline and free from health issues just look at crufts this year who were the top winner most of them from aboard so what going on with the dogs we are breeding here i know the problems in my breed.plus if the dog that good quailty when he over then the stud fee would cover the cost for the first year.

What I mean is that most of the cost is nothing to do with purchase, it is travel, quarantine, Taxes to teh Vat man, so even if our boy had been free it would still ahve cost us £2500 and this was 4 years ago.

I imported 2 cats 5 years ago, they cost me nothing to purchase, but everything else cost me roughly £1000.

I guess it all depends on many factors. I'll be moving to UK from Continental Europe and I'm bringing my Chihuahua boy with me. I started showing him in Europe and will probably continue in UK as well.... can hardly wait ! He had to go through some blood tests and wait about 6 months afterwords.
Anyway, even when I'm, in UK I'll probably import one or two dogs from Continental Europe. My parents will pick up the pup from the breeder and keep him till he's about 10 months old. When all the paperwork is sorted I'm going to pick him up. Overall, I don't think it's going to cost me more....

but we got to remmber to that their show are not as big and dont draw the dogs in like the uk show. so it easyer to make champaion over sea

We are so taken by the European dogs that my parents are also thinking of importing a Pomeranian, I've been in contact with a couple of kennels and fingers crossed maybe we will have a new line soon.

See i didn't realise there would be so many factors involved, i didn't even think about quarentine etc.  It certainly doesn't sound the thing for the faint hearted
As i said i found it stressful enough what with waiting lists & then waiting for the pups to be born.  I think i was number 5 on the list (we wanted a dog) we were lucky, but for months before i was on tenterhooks, LOL
Thanks also for replying everyone :-)

Yep, it's certainly hard work but from my experience it's well worth it, though with myself of course if we hadn't of imported our dogs then they may never have been over here or not until much later on in time.  I'm so pleased that I fell in love with my breed 14 years ago, now all those years down the line I have 6 of them, 4 living with me and 2 with my parents.  My eldest is 12 and youngest 8 months.

I also recently imported a stud dog who is in part ownership and he's just been wonderful, he cost me about £500 to bring over here but he's been well worth it as he's such a lovely character and up to now all of his new puppy owners have been over the moon with them, my parents included!

I also think that importing dogs to UK is in fact a good idea. I mean imagine nobody brought new blood to the country! ;) All the dogs would be related by now......

Our international shows are just as big as UK shows. I mean when I'm showing, my competition includes dogs from Italy, Austria, Belgium, Germany, Finland, Hungary, Holland, Russia, Croatia, Switzerland and few other countries. I'm not sure if people from all these countries travel to UK though. Too complicated really.

Our average all breed championship show has entries of 10,000 plus dogs.  I don't think there is any international or World show that equals that number.

Oh my god!! So one single show must last a couple of days! That is really interesting...... I'm not sure how it is like showing in UK, but it might be a new experience for me ;). I'll check it out as an observer first, just to see how it's done.

Yes, most general (all breeds) Championship shows last 3 days, with the various groups (Working, Toy, Terrier etc) being on the different days.

Yes it is usually 3 or four days, Crufts had an entry of 22255 dogs this year, and if you didn't have to qualify then the entry would be even bigger.

It really is the biggest dog show in the World.

I don't think they are quite as big entry wise How many All Breed shows in Europe have 300 + dogs of one breed entered ? I'm not writing about the single breed shows as some get big entries(the GSD German Sieger for example)but none of the All breed Shows I've been to(& it's not just one or two) have much lower entries Some of the UK classes have bigger entries than the whole breed has abroad

The FCI shows do have more breeds recognized than the UK KC which sometimes confuses the entry

The whole showing scene in the UK is different from Europe & most of the rest of the world   but I hope when you do come over Ory you do well. Entries in Chihuahuas aren't the biggest in the Toy Group & they could do with some quality new blood. A friend of mine who showed Chihuahuas for 30 odd years died recently & she was saying before she passed away that new blood that wasn't from the USA was needed

Yeah, have to say that the Chi's aren't what they used to be over here.  I love the smoothcoat but there are not many in this country that I like a lot seem to have lost that lovely domed head and the front movement on some of them, well they could knit a jumper :d :d  And these dogs win over here.

What I don't like is the fact that their muzzles are getting shorter and shorter. Some of them almost look like pugs and have difficulties breathing.

i thought that the world dog show in holland 2002 was just like a champshow over here in the uk.and then most of the stall were uk to so not very good if it the world dog show crufts 1000s time better.

how much more expensive is it to import a dog into the UK?

In my case  (got a bitch from Sweden in last July) - nothing... not a penny :D *cackles wildly*

Seriously though, I was so, so lucky.  Fell in love with the bitch through photos on the internet and when the breeder brought her dogs over to show in this country she brought her over too and gave her to me :D

All in all it does cost more but if you can't find the quality or lines you like in the UK then sometimes you have no choice but to import.
Debs

but after years of been in one breed and see the health issues rising where some breeders are not up front about they problems and going to a agm stating that they didnt have any report on a health issue.i to day  found about another one,why are this breeders not going to the health commitee to help sort the problem out other than sweeping under the carpet.

this is why the pet passort will help bring in new blood line and hope no problems with health but to make shore that the dog thats coming in the uk at a year to have all the health test hip.elbows.patell.eyes ,blood work ect.if the dogs fail any dont bring it over to add to the problem over here. but you cannot guarrtee any thing.for the furtune breed
plus it good to have new competion in and out of the ring were the old school of breeders dont like the competion beacuse they are set in their way and cannot think forward for the breed

I'm hoping to bring in a bitch puppy this year and have budgeted £3000 - hope it costs less though !

Yvonne

If there's anything left over Yvonne you need it for either alcohol or chocolate, depending on your preference, to relax you after all the stress!!

it is very hard what gos into importing a dog over  here for the new owners and the breeder to they only want to send a good quailty dog to have a good reputation on their kennel too.then there all the paper this side with the kc

Yeah and if it's from the Spanish KC you can be waiting months for the pedigree :d :d  It is worth it in the end though isn't it Terri??

I imported from America ,the dogs arriveing in 2004, Cost of top quality dog you can get to start. To fit with this countries breed standard. Vet bill for inoccs and rabies, titre, getting special chips sent out, 10 months board, lab fees, check ups. Something to the expensise of the host for fuel and time for vet visits.   Air fares for one dog and handling cost $1,400, that vary with the size and weight of the dog. Crate. Cargo charges from the plane to animal reception. I cannot see why a novice would want to do this kind of thing when they are not well associated with a breed, as I would say my costs were nearer to £3,000+ without the cost of the dog. They did weigh quite a bit. Next lot will have to go on a diet a month before they are shipped. Then you have the trips over to meet breeder and see what facilities the puppy will be in for the 10 months, regular travel to spend time with the dog.

I found a really good breeder that did this service for three dogs at that time. This time she is also keeping one from another breeder for me, so air flight from Califonia to Seattle for puppy, as well as one from her,  My husband recones it is a loop in the brain when it comes to dogs.

I have also brought through quarentine last year ( Pet passport gone wrong) this to me was the cheapest option  £2,600 kenneling + flight.

the quarentine may have been cheaper but i bet the dog had a better live at the breeders and well socilzae before him came over,

did any one have any problems beening over a dog from aboard with temperment settling into the new home ect,

we can all stated how much it going to cost and time.

but  no one as stated about setting in the new home and get on with other dog in that household ect which is a first thing to think about not just for the new dog what about the one in the household already having their nose put out.

Well it was a few years ago, but when we imported and quarantine was the only option all the dogs did brilliantly except for the youngest boy, he hated to be anywhere near kennels etc. when he left quarantine and was also very nervous of people, it took about a year for him to come round to people properly.  But Relampago, Lola and Dilita came out of quarantine and into our houses as if they'd been here forever!

I've had a dog through quarantine as well (1990), he had NEVER been in kennels in his life and was 6 at the time but he had NO problems at all -in fact it made him a lot happier. Back in Sweden he lived with my mum who was working so he was left on his own during the days and was very bored , then when he arrived in quarantine he had people around him all the time and he cheered up considerably and became a lot happier and even a lot healthier -his health problems vanished. I also made sure to visit him 3 to 5 times a week during his entire 6 months stay, and of course there was a vet on hand every single day so any tiny concern was checked out immediately. All in all I was very happy with the experience.

When he arrived in my home I had another entire adult male dog and they did not get on to start with. I hit upon the solution by accident. I called the Swedish  dog to me one day, the English one came as well, I picked up the paw of the Swedish dog to examine it, and he thought the OTHER dog had touched him, and bit me. This was the friendliest dog on earth wo had never bitten anyone, so I was totally shocked and although it was a misunderstanding, I just reacted on pure instinct. I shouted at the Swedish dog, told him to stay away, then spent the rest of the day cuddling the English dog and ignoring the Swedish dog.They stopped fighting and never fought again for as logn as they lived, having accepted that I, even without realising it, had chosen the English dog is the higher ranking one of the two. In fact they became such close friends that when the Swedish dog died, the English dog almost died as well as he would not eat, he was that depressed.

Our boy cam out of quarantien bomb proof.  Only probelms were intitial housetraining, buggger puddles for a 9 month old.

Also barking, as I would imagine that was the main form of amusement for a dog in kennels.  He is good in my home when he has stayed as I don't have a large area for the dogs outside and he knows I can stop him barking so he doesn't bother, but at home with a very large area to run in he does take advantage and bark.

He went to his first show 3 days out of quarantine and we were amazed at how well he hqandled the people dogs and even the showing.

He came over at 9 1/2 weeks old so obviously won't have seen much of the outside world prior to six months solitary.

Obviously you need to know that the temperament of the parents and breed is adaptable.

I'm hoping that our wee girl will be staying with some experienced breed folk in France who will raise her as part of their household and perhaps even take her to a few shows before she comes over here.I must admit it does worry me as my breed is very prone to becoming over anxious at new situations etc and needs careful socializing when young.

Yvonne