Bassetlaw Hospital in Worksop is following suit. Apparently staff can get sacked if they are caught smoking. I dont smoke so it doesnt affect me. I actually had a meeting with our director of nursing about this and she said they had to close the smoking rooms because it was affecting the health of the cleaners who had to go in there to clean and also being a HEALTH trust it doesnt display the right image.

We've been told to approach people smoking on the grounds here but there aint no way Im going to go to someone in their car and tell them to not smoke!

Just to make clear that I am in no way saying "Zero Tollerance on Smoking!" ;)  I do dislike it intensely, especially the fact that both me and my young son are forced to inhale other people's smoke practically every time we go out of the house and, therefore, it having a derrogitory effect on our health (no matter how little!).  However, smokers made their choice to smoke just as non-smokers make their choice not to.  If people who smoke want to do it give them a designated place outside their work office, on the highstreet etc etc a good distance away from the 'main body of people'.  Don't criticise them smoking in their homes if they so wish (providing they don't have chilren or animals living within/visiting the house!).  BUT smokers - please don't feel you have a right to smoke in public places where the vast majority of people are non-smokers - it is our right (the non-smokers, especially children with no choice on the matter, and not forgetting animals) NOT to have to inhale your smoke

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I work in a women and children unit of a hospital that is not two years old, cost £12million to build looked lovely for a couple of weeks then there were cigarette burns on floors curtains, toilet cisterns  and the entrance looked like a huge ashtray. :rolleyes: .  Some people just have no respect

Is it just me , or is it really the case that if you are a smoker then you're right up there with mass murderers , rapists , etc. That's how it reads, as a recent non smoker I feel quite unbiased , I think, er, hope! Surely at the end of the day smokers and non smokers alike can live happily together? What intrigues me is that I come from the generation that grew up with smoke all around us. Parents , relatives , adult friends all seemed to smoke, EVEN pregnant women smoked, and hey! a lot of us are here , and healthy with it. How did that happen???? To my mind there is almost a witchhunt against smokers.

>a lot of us are here , and healthy with it. How did that happen????

......and a lot that aren't all due to smoking.  Everyone said how fit my uncle was, he smoked a lot but had given up.  He certainly was no couch potato as had a physical job and went swimming regularly after coaching the kids' team. Dropped dead at 45 with an enlarged heart due to smoking.  The generation that grew up surrounded by smoke had parents and relatives who were for the most part ignorant of the serious health issues surrounding smoking, lung cancer, mouth cancer, throat cancer, heart disease, smaller babies etc.  These days we are better educated and so we should be doing everything in our power to prevent children taking up the habit. If this means starting with adults and making smoking as difficult as possible for them then so be it. How many smokers started smoking after 16-18 years old?  I started when I was 14 and I most certainly wasn't the youngest.

"Is it just me , or is it really the case that if you are a smoker then you're right up there with mass murderers , rapists , etc. That's how it reads, as a recent non smoker I feel quite unbiased , I think, er, hope! Surely at the end of the day smokers and non smokers alike can live happily together?"

We do all live together in harmony!  At the end of the day we're all humans that make choices.  However, in this instance the thing that is lacking is respect - and thats respect for the people who choose not to smoke.  What I was trying to say was that why should those who choose not to smoke be forced to inhale other people's smoke purely because they're walking down the same side of the street that a smoker is walking down/stood on?  Smokers could simply not exhale/take a puff of the ciggy when other people are walking past/stood looking in a shop window.  They could move down wind so the smoke doesn't blow straight into other people's faces.  Non-smokers inhale far more of the 'bad stuff' in one breath than the actual smokers do as most of it is exhaled! :rolleyes:

I play dominoes for the local pub and last night the 2 ladies who I played against both smoked. Neither of them said - do you mind? or whatever. The smoke was straight in my face and I absolutely stunk when I get home. I have no problem with people smoking - its up to them but I was quite disgusted with these 2 ladies. I find younger people are far more considerate than the older generation.

How about this then?!

One of my dads 'friends' came round to help fit our new bathroom suite, absolutely stunk of smoke and then walked about our house like he owned the place with his roll up puffing away! This man is in his 60`s!

Now correct me if im wrong, but i thought the older generation knew all about respect and were annoyed at the younger generation of today not having as much?

Where was this mans respect and manners, when it came to not even asking if we minded him smoking in our smoke free home?

I know this is just one man, not saying all the older generation are as bad mannered obviously, but as a man of his age, i personally thought he of all should have known better! :rolleyes:

I think over all, it is mainly down to a lack of respect!

Hey, sorry to hear that, that is just plain rude in what ever language. I know that when I meet some  one of the older generation I give way, if you get my meaning. It's still a total pain though.

Just to put the record straight , as they say , I am totally for all the non smoking stuff that has been said , it's just that I don't want all the peps. to go to war over this when there is so much other stuff that our attentiion could be directed towards.

no war - just differing opinions ;)

I am looking forward to the Human Rights judgement that is sure to follow the NHS total ban on smoking...I'm an ex-smoker but I don't particularly mind other people's smoke...Just as well because I'm a mental health social worker and a high percentage of people with severe mental health problems smoke excessively...

Why do I mention breach of Human Rights?  Well people with mental disorders can be made to reside at a psychiatric hospital for months/years (compulsory detention under a section of the Mental Health Act 1983) and whilst detained cannot leave the hospital unless agreed by the psychiatrist...

It's serious enough that society detains those with a serious mental disorder but to then impose a smoking ban in NHS grounds, thereby forcing them to 'give up' their nicotine habit rather than allowing them a choice in the matter, is probably a breach of Human Rights...

The judicial test case is bound to happen....Wonder what the judgement will be???????