Hi everyone
               can anyone tell me about chappie food , does the dry chappie have the same affects as the tinned variety as i have read that vets recomend it for upset tummies, but i like to feed a compleate meal for dental higyine as i have trouble cleaning his teeth.

I've fed dried Chappie for years, and my dogs have done very well on it. :)

As far as i am aware the dried chappie does not have the same effect of sensitive tums as the canned.

> but i like to feed a compleate meal for dental higyine as i have trouble cleaning his teeth.<

Can i ask you a question? :) Have you ever seen your dog pick up a piece of kibble and chew it? Or does he suck up his bowl of dry food  in record time like most dogs do? :( Dry food cleaning teeth is one of those stubborn myths that wont go away! Canned food IMHO is healthier and better for dogs teeth than dry food,because it doesnt contain all the carbs/grains that most dry foods do,and this is what sticks to the teeth and sets into that yucky tartar! I wouldnt expect eating a packet of biscuits would clean my teeth,its no different for dogs :)

The only way to keep dogs teeth hygienically clean is by giving them abrasive things to chew on,preferably healthy things,which rules out raw hide,pig ears,pedigree rusks,purina chews and the like.Raw meaty bones would be my first option,you can also give things like  raw carrots,broccoli stumps etc. Brushing is also an option,but is unnecessary if a dog is fed an appropriate >teeth cleaning< diet,which dry food is not :)

My dog crunches hers :)  Don't know about chappie, but many foods have pieces of different size these days to encourage it, even my friend's labrador crunches hers although a lot faster obviously :D  Kibble is considerably harder than human biscuits.  The proof is in the pudding, as we so often say on here :), and it's very easy for an owner to monitor if it is keeping the teeth clean, teeth and mouths should be regularly checked anyway.

My dogs sometimes crunch very large kibble - there are some pieces in some foods which are about an inch in diameter. Anything smaller just gets hoovered down whole.

>Kibble is considerably harder than human biscuits.

Also kibble and human food biscuits have different ingredients which have considerably different effects on teeth.

My dog crunches her kibble, carrots, broccoli, apples and even worming tablets.  She lays down in front of her bowl and makes a proper meal out of her meal crunching through her kibble :D  Her teeth look lovely. Yesterday I gave her a couple of strawberries and she even chewed those, leaving the stalks and leaves behind on the floor.  When it comes to eating maybe she's just a laydeee :D 

The only food that seems to go down whole without touching the sides is meat.

Hi i have fed all my dogs a dry diet and they have all had good teeth but i rehomed a dog that had been fed wet and his teeth where awful, he went to the vet for a scale and polish and after that they are brilliant as i do not give him any canned meat

Yes I think tinned food is not going to clean them as well.  Not that it matters if the owners are prepared to do something as simple as give a little brush every evening or give other treats that will do the job and monitor how things are going.

all 3 of my dogs crunch their biscuits. i have recently stopped giving my dogs tinned chappie ad just give them dry chappie as my cocker has started to get tartar on his back teeth. i have been told that tinned meat does not contribute to this but imo it doesnt exactly help.

becky

>Yes I think tinned food is not going to clean them as well<

Neither tinned food OR canned food is going to CLEAN teeth,but GOOD quality canned food will not stick on teeth to produce tartar like a high grain dry food will.Poor quality,eg high sugar  canned food will be no better than a poor quality dry food.

They have loads of Grain free dry foods in the US,i have known of a few owners whos dogs teeth werent in the best condition,even with giving rmbs a few times a week,once they changed over from a grainy dry food to a grain free one their teeth automatically got better,this IMO is not a coincedence :)

Dogs teeth are not going to keep themselves clean,just like ours will not ;) We have to do certain things to ensure they stay clean,like the abrasive foods,rmbs etc etc.

Take it or leave it :)

Mine do tend to crunch....

>because it doesnt contain all the carbs/grains that most dry foods do,and this is what sticks to the teeth and sets into that yucky tartar! I wouldnt expect eating a packet of biscuits would clean my teeth,its no different for dogs

This must be a myth too then.......dry kibble doesn't stick to teeth like human biscuits... ...it's completely different, very abrasive.......and I have actually eaten some........ :-D

Yep mine crunches hers too, and she has lovely pearly whites

Karen

Actually, what Sarah is saying may have some truth to it.   The bacteria which cause tartar may like the natural sugars found in grains a whole lot better then plain meat.   (I seem to recall some nonsense :rolleyes:about that as a child - "don't eat   sweets they will ruin your teeth", brush right after eating, etc.) A grain free diet may be less likely to promote tartar - whether it is a wet or a dry diet.

I've never noticed any difference between wet and dry feeding in my dogs.  I have noticed a difference between dogs though - some seem to build tartar very quickly no matter what - others have had virtually no problem their entire lives.  The worst for building tartar was a Yorkie, always fed dry, she needed her teeth scaled done every 2-3 years.  It's a known breed-related problem in Yorkies.

I feed my dogs wet (Naturediet) now, but they do get dry treats.  I even give them pieces of JWB as little treats.   If I give them a piece one by one, most of the time they chew it.  If I give them a handful - they do not.  So for them at least feeding dry would make no difference. 

Cairnmania thanks for the spark of support :) No worries,i was expecting the >yeah right,whatever< and >my dogs crunch each piece of kibble :rolleyes: < posts. No need to believe me,just go out and ask any dentist,they will tell you carby foods stick to teeth and will cause excess tartar,this isnt just my ole opinion ;)

I don't understand why you become so defensive when people disagree with you, is it paranoia?

>Have you ever seen your dog pick up a piece of kibble and chew it? Or does he suck up his bowl of dry food  in record time like most dogs do?

I responded to your question because you made a sweeping statement that dogs don't chew when my dog actually chews her kibble so why be so sarcastic -

>No worries,i was expecting the >yeah right,whatever< and >my dogs crunch each piece of kibble  < posts.

It's as if you are questioning the truthfulness of my post because it doesn't agree with your assumptions :rolleyes: based on what, your experience with your dogs and other dogs you know? Let's face it are a mere fraction of the dog world.

>No need to believe me,just go out and ask any dentist,they will tell you carby foods stick to teeth and will cause excess tartar

They'll also tell you that all things being equal in diet and amount of teeth cleaning, some people will still have a bigger build up of tartar than others due to something in their saliva (never forget individual differences play a part in everything), this isn't just my ole opinion ;)