I have a 6 month puppy who has started pooing & peeing during the night/early morning. He's  been toilet trained from about 12 weeks. I've done all the usual taking him out before bed feeding him earlier I even get up when I hear him running around but it's always to late! I also ignore what he's done. He has a crate which he will go in happily during the day when were out but he goes mad @ night, just won't stop yelling! When he was smaller we ended up having to put it upstairs which worked, but we are moving  house soon due to a baby on the way & he's being banned from upstairs for obvious reasons. He's really well behaved @ night just sleeps in his bed in the lounge. I just dont wan't to come down to a puddle & pile every morning !! Any other ideas? Thanks Dani :)

Hi Dani

You could try setting your alarm for half an hour or so earlier than when his "running about" normally wakes you - a sort of preventative strike :P

Your youngster may be suffering from separation anxiety if he is regularly used to being in your company when not caged in the house with the exception of when he's abandoned overnight ( :rolleyes: how HE may view it!).  In which case you should make an effort to recreate bed time situations for brief periods during the day, gradually increasing the period of time he is left. 

At 6 months he's still very much a puppy and anxiety/stress/over excitement can cause them to temporarily lose bladder and bowel control.

HTH, regards Teri :)

 

Thanks for the advice I really hope it's not separation anxiety as my last dog his farther had it!!

Then it is quite likely he will to as character traits are inheriuted saem as physical ones.

As you were aware of thsi possibility you really need to work hard on preventing this problem getting established and take thigns slwoly so he feels comfortable being left by stages.

I would have his crate back in your bedroom and gradulaly move it further and further, an6y signs of anxiety and go back a step.

You can of course do it the other way around and go down and sleep near his crate and gradulaly move upstairs, have you treid a baby monitor, so he can hear you speak to him?

I would definitely crate him at night and ignore the howling.

I'm just worried about putting him in the crate @ night as he gets so stressed. My last dod developed a phobia with his crate as soon as he heard the door open he we run & hide shaking. He was so frantic to get out used to dig @ the metal floor which (boris the pup) is stating to do. Moose the other dog cut his paws to shreads. & broke out of two crates. As boris is fine in it during the day & I still need to use it for when I go out I would rather not crate him @ night.

This would be because you didn't introduce the crate correctly, gradually increasing the amount of time the dog is in there for, associating the crate with positive things like hidden treats - all dogs (with a very very small exception) can be crate trained.

The fact that your previous dog couldn't be crated and now apparently your current dog has the same problem seems to point the finger at you a bit, and the way you are introducing the crate to your dogs. 

Of course if you just push a dog or puppy in a cage and expect it to be immediately happy, you will have nothing but grief.

I have a link bookmarked which is very helpful on crating but I'm not emailing from my computer at the moment so don't have any of my speedy links to paste here, but if you search other posts on the crating subject, you will find the links I posted there.

Danni's pup is the son of the dog that had seperation anxiety, so some of the problem may be genetic as well as environmental/training.

I think Boris has def picked up on some of Moose's character traits (joy!) but like I said he has no problems with the crate in the day just goes to sleep & goes in with no problem.  I don't understand why the problem comes @ night? Both dogs were introduced to the crate properly. But Moose's behaviors were far from normal He couldn't even cope being in a room if a door was shut he went through them even when locked & through walls! I just need is a different method than crating to stop the accidents.

One question are you TAKING your dog out last thing Or LETTING him out.
I train mine to go on command "Cleverboy/girl" and I watch to make sure they do everything, if one doesn't and hasn't been for a while we repeat the process every 5 mins and usually 2nd attempt they do the bit they never done before.
Wonder how long your night is too, mine is about 6 hrs 7 max and my 8 month old is always very ready for the loo then.

Bev

Yes he goes out before bed. until he's done something. we have around 7 8 hrs sleep max, but this morning he hadn't left any presents, so I let him out he had a pee & then proceeded to eat cat sick (nice!) so I made him come in. came down a few mins later & he had done a poo!  We are not the best of mates today as he sent me flying in the park (very muddy) & then when we got home he locked himself in my room & peeded on my clean bedding!