Having got a 7 year old CKCS girl , last summer we decided to get another CKCS pup, to be company for her and me and the children, we spent a long time finding the right breeder with both long eye and heart clear certs.  I dont work (previous stroke) and hubby was away a lot, so I was always at home with them.  I have spent a long time training both dogs and we really enjoyed going to training class and having fun.  However six weeks ago I had to leave the marital home with the children to a safe house.  All I had was the kids and a suitcase and £50 and I couldnt take the dogs where we were going at least in the short term.  In the last six weeks I have been able to sneak back into the house to see the dogs twice and the smallest one was running riot, peeing everywhere and climbing all over the back of the sofa and barking out of the window.  Totally different to the pooch I had left who didnt bark, and wouldnt think of doing that.  I dont think they had been walked on a lead during that time, just taken for a walk off lead in the field behind the house.

The children and I have now moved into a rented cottage and have permission to have the two dogs, we have small garden as well.  I collected the dogs this afternoon (my ex knows that I was going to do this, he is glad to be rid of them) the big one has been to a groomers as she was looking awful and I have spent ages grooming the little one.  My problem is the pups behaviour on a lead and how I sort it out.  I took her for a walk and while the older one was quite happy to walk on a lead, the little one lunged for every car, barking her head off, wrapping the lead round herself.  It was as if she wanted to run into the road to chase the car.  She was barking at people, dragging us along, and was a complete nightmare.  I know this is all because of how the last six weeks have gone and we have to go back to the beginning with training.  But how do I deal with the lunging at cars, is she scared?  or is she trying to ward them off trying to protect us?  Do I shout no (tried this with no effect) or shake a tin of pebbles, but if she is scared this will have more of a scary effect - this is all negative, how would I do it with more positive training?

Ps  I cannot afford to take her to any form of training class at the moment, and I am still struggling through the minefield of benefits and living on my own caring for the children for the first time. 

Sometimes reading training books can help.
If you've got time try to get some from the library.
This way you can find the best training book for you without spending any money.
Then it's up to you if you buy the same book for yourself.

I'm sure the guys here can give some idea of good training books.

Sorry I'm not sure which would be the best method to stop car chasing.
You might find it easier if you took puppy out on it's own to be able to train it.
It's harder when you are trying to walk 2 dogs if one isn't behaving itself.

Best Of Luck

Don't use aversion things like shaking tins, that'll probably make her worse as she'll think you're joining in the noise making. Basically like you said, go right back to the beginning as if she were a brand new puppy that had just come home and needs teaching and socialising for the first time. Take her out by herself, just a few steps at first, and praise every step she makes where she walks nicely at your side. Make sure the lead is kept short enough that she can't get into the road or wrap it round herself, this will be easier to do without the other dog in your other hand. Then you'll have that other hand free to coax her to walk nicely, perhaps with a treat held in front of her nose. Sorry about the situation, but I'm glad you got your dogs back in the end, and I'm sure things will improve soon. :-)

Hi Janice,

I would suggest you go right back to basics and treat her as if she was a very young puppy.  You obviously trained her correctly the first time so I'm afraid my best advice would be to do it all over again.

Good luck
Debs

Would start by stating that I am not an expert but... my rough collie started this when he was going thro his terrible teens. I managed to control it by taking him on walks to quiet roads where I could preempt the cars coming and get his attention on me before they were too close, with either his favourite treats or toy and keeping him focused on that until the car had passed. Gradually he failed to notice the cars and now he will walk past cars, lorries, buses etc. without any fuss. Can't cure it with  loud motorbikes, these he still loathes
Hope it helps.

Firstly I want to say how brave you are to make the move away...it must have been dreadully hard. Under the circumstances I must applaud you for going back to see the dogs and then making provision for them in your new life. It must be hard to see that the littlest is running riot but remember that it has only been 6 weeks. The damage is not irreperable. As others have suggested go straight back to basics as if your dog was a little pup. Dont do the pebble thing in this case, it is not necessary. Go back to basics with the toilet training, regular trips out, close supervision, and praise for good behaviour. Jumping on the furniture can be discouraged by a simple firm "no" whilst removing the pup from the furniture. If this is physically hard for you keep a lead on the collar  to help move the pup. as for lead walking, use a titbit to keep the dogs interest whilst walking and work as you did when pup first learned to walk on lead. If you do a search on here on each individual problem you will find some helpful stuff.
Good luck :)

Firstly I think you should walk the dogs separately, because often when one dog displays a fear response to something, the other dog can "learn" that response and the last thing you want is both dogs jumping at cars.

When you walk the younger dog, you also need to have time and enough hands to deal with rewarding her for good behaviour without the other dog getting in the way. 

I would try just sitting on a reasonably busy park bench with her (or bus stop or something like that), and every time you see someone coming, get a treat out and ask her to sit, or down, or paw - or do something (you can also work on these behaviours at home so she knows them).  Try to distract her from the person approaching by keeping her doing things until they have passed.  As they pass, give her lots of praise and a small pile of treats.

Thankyou for all your help, its much appreciated.  I have been walking the oldest one in the mornings on her own which has been working well and she doesnt mind the rain, but I have concentrated on getting the manners back in the youngest indoors before I have ventured out with her again.  We have now cured the housetraining (mostly :rolleyes: but she is a puppy) and we have stopped the hyper circle of death round the lounge due to lack of attention.  I have got a little pot of cheese cubes by the back door and every time they want to go out I make them both sit and give them a treat, also when I give them their food they have to sit or lay down before they get it.  I have noticed quite a difference already just in getting their attention and them listening to me, its as if they are almost relieved that they are back with me where they know the rules.  As for the lunging at cars, it has been raining the last two days so I didnt really want to take her out and for her to get splashed by a passing car and make it worse. But we do have a bench that is set back a little way from the road where we could watch the passing cars, so I could sit there with her and distract her and then give her a treat to reward her if she doesnt lunge - a sort of desensitisation by stealth!

Also my ex-husband came over last night which has resulted in me obtaining an injunction against him today, (not hurt just scared the children and I witless) and all the time he was going off on one both dogs were glued to my legs, considering that its less than a week since they were with him, they definately wanted to be with me - which is lovely and quite comforting that I must be doing something right.

aww looks like the dogs are trying to protect you and that is a good thing.
Hope that you are feeling a bit better about things now and would like to say that was so brave of you to go and get the dogs They need you I think as much as you need them and pleased to hear that the puppy is doing a lot better as well
Babs

Great news that the dogs are starting to settle down. I'm sure they are very relieved to be back with a real caring person that takes care of them. My sister went through a bad experience with her ex - it was terrifying. I feel for you and hope he just goes away. It did get better with time. I wish you all the best.

I've nothing to add but just well done in making s brave move and restablishing your life and rescuing your dogs so tha are back with you. You will get there.... try to forget the impact of those neglected times will have on them and see you ae just making a fresh start. You sound totally admirable! Hope things go well for you and your family and of course for your dogs..