Hi, I posted a thread on the General board, about Diesel's manic 'moulting' :rolleyes:
I received a reply, telling me that Bakers was an awful food.......now it's got me wondering, Diesel certainly seems to be thriving on it, as is my Goldie, but obviously the comments have got me panicking a little
I've did a search and can see some people think it's not great, what I'm wondering is, are there people out there who do feed their dogs Bakers, and they too seem to be doing well on it??, or is the general feeling, stay well clear?

If your dog is doing well on it then stick with it. Its not everyones ideal food, but have fed mine on it and they did very well too, so if it ain't broke, don't fix it

I fed my lab on Bakers when she was younger - she did ok on it but got bored.  Ive  then started her on JWB.  I agree with Liberty, if shes doing well leave her on it.  There will be lots of people whos dogs eat Bakers and thrive

Bakers has artificial colours, preservatives and additives in it, not to mention added sugar and salt.  It does not specify what meat sources the meat ingredients are (Animal and meat derivatives) or what vegetables or cereals the cereal ingredients are (Cereals).

I'd say steer well clear.  But the choice is up to you.  Is Diesel really thriving on it if he has "manic moulting"?

Well, yes I would say he is, he looks fantastic, and perhaps the shedding is something I should put up with, rather than chop and change his diet again?
He gets Bakers along with Prize Choice blocks of all beef or tripe.

>He gets Bakers along with Prize Choice blocks of all beef or tripe<

Bailliesmum-feeding a good food along with a bad one will not negate the negative effects of the lower food,if that makes sense

It s like serving up brussell sprouts with a side serving of the greasiest junkiest food full of preservatives and colours to your children every night,you can bet your bottom dollar that the bad food will show itself in some negative form or the other,no matter how much health food you mix with it.

Alot of people say >my dogs love bakers<,ofcourse they do.Do most kids love mcdonalds,kfc and fish and chips,and most of the other junk foods under the sun??Junk food tasted good,it doesnt mean its good for you?

So, whats hard about swapping the Bakers for some blended veg, a chicken wing or three, a tin of sardines, a lamb rib or two, some offal??

You are half way there to feeding a great diet, swapping the bakers for the above options is barely more effort than grabbing a bowlful of bakers.

If your dog is moulting manically then i agree with onetwothree, thats possibly a sign that he isnt doing as well as he could do.
Em

I don't feed Bakers, but do feed other complete foods, as well as other things. But here we see a problem. You say:

>whats hard about swapping xxxx for some blended veg, a chicken wing or three, a tin of sardines, a lamb rib or two, some offal??

Sardines and offal are on the list of Foods to Avoid for my breed. It's not as simple as people may make out. :(

I don't believe in feeding danes chicken wings - they swallow them whole and I don't have time to stand holding 15 chicken wings hoping he will crunch them all. - believe me, I have tried it. Mine are on Bakers as a mixer and they are not moulting at all :)

Don't you keep the odd lamb rib tucked away just in case then Chloe ;) :D

>>Well, yes I would say he is, he looks fantastic,<<

So, if I understand you, he is doing well on the food and he \\\"looks fantastic,\\\" other than his hair is falling out?  Obviously I am misunderstanding you.  Sorry to be so dense.

Bakers is the only complete that Willis puts weight on with... but I only feed a little in conjunction with ND and/or Tripe.

What kind of quantities are you giving him Carla?

He has a jug full every morning and every night with 2lb of tripe or 2 packs of ND :)

its the only food my whippets eat and they love it and it puts weight on them. im a bakers fan

Bakers is the only dog food that that I know carries a health warning
Its cheap and cheerful food, if you check their web site they do not list ingredients
They make nice adverts  that again do not mention any ingredients ,Still it's the best selling dog food in the UK its more for dog owners who like the simple life rather than those who chose food because of its content -Jo.

Maybe it suits their dogs Jo, have you considered that, rather than snide comments suggesting its bought for convenience rathr than the benefit of the dog, very rude of you Food  snobbery strikes the board again I see.

I feed my dogs what they do well on, not what the latest fashion dictates, and I do not need fancy names and tosh to prove  I am a responsible dog owner!!!!!!!!!!

Oh Jo - button it will you :rolleyes: I feed Willis Bakers because a) he likes it b) he does well on it c) I have a LIFE (which does not involve preparing delicacies for a Dane who is already thriving, and worse pouring over every teeny ingredient on a packet incase, aaargh, a preservative slips in).

I couldn't give a monkeys what they put in it - and neither could he. Its no worse than eating the hoof clippings my farrier leaves, horse muck, fox poo, chocolate, sausages, burgers, kebab (OMG I let my dog eat Kebab - sue me!) etc :rolleyes: You'll excuse me if I'm not quaking at the thought of the RSPCA rolling up to sieze my pour malnurished dog :D

I wondered how long it would be before the first of the food fascists turned up. Now waiting for the posse of guilt police. :rolleyes:

Sorry this is not my opinion, but this was the response I received from Purina
After I e-mailed them, they said if I wanted to feed my dog on a more nutritional   food
I should feed Purina 1. They used the term cheep and cheerful for bakers and also admitted that it was not the best food they made .I read labels and take time to find out what manufactures put in to food hardly make me a fascist, however I was impressed with Purina response and honesty,  still some of you will always find it easier to insult Rather than debate -JO

No, some of us are just bored with the whole feeding debate. If the dog likes it, and does well on it - whats the problem? I have fed Willis on expensive foods - Burns being one of them  and persevered DESPITE him looking like a ribby whippet (he's a dane) and I put him on something cheap and cheerful and the weight goes on. Why not just leave those of us who want to feed a cheap and cheerful MIXER (albeit a complete) ALONE!?

dont join the debate then -after all the post asked for views on Bakers -Jo  

Correct. It didn't ask for your opinion on owners who choose to feed their dogs it - by my reckoning that makes my post (because I feed it) more relevant than yours :)

By your own admission you don't care what goes in to your dog as long as he eats it
Simple -Jo

And as long as he's healthy on it. Even simpler.

as simple as simple can be Forest GUMP

A very wise person who didn't get distracted by fiddle-faddle. :)

Correct again, I even gave him....wait for it....SKINNERS once - but only on the advice of his well respected, reputable breeder who has several champions all fed on it. What a bad, BAD owner I am for feeding DOG FOOD! :rolleyes:

dont beat yourself up about it im sure you mean well

Yeah, you're right. I really shouldn't sit here feeling, oooh 0% guilty.

Has anyone ever asked the people who like calling names,such as food fascist,what the opposite of a food fascist would be? :D

I'm sure you'd love to tell us sara

A comestible communist? :D

Chloe that would mean i would have to spew out words as equally hateful and nasty as food fascist and snob etc.. I am not prepared to lower myself to that level :(

I dont mind being called a food snob or fascist anyways.It seems you only have to care about what your dogs eat,have some knowledge of ingredients and not feed junk food to be called the aforementioned words.I am taking them as compliments,as should the rest of the dog owners who feel good nutrition is important, rather than in the vindictive,snipey way they are intented :)

>Chloe that would mean i would have to spew out words as equally hateful and nasty as food fascist and snob etc.. I am not prepared to lower myself to that level

I would have thought the opposite of a food fascist would be a positive thing - with a fascist being dictatorial person - surely the opposite would be one who lives and lets live? But then, thats not you either :D

A comestible communist?

ROFL!!!

Sara you feed your dog with whatever choose, and allow other people to do the same, without trying to undermine them as there is no such thing as the perfect dog food. I'm, sure your personal diet varies greatly from mine, may I suggest you live and let live :rolleyes:

I take the decision to have two less Gin and tonics on a night out at the weekend to save money to pay for slightly more expensive Ingredients/foods for my dog :D
*Uh oh!!! do I see a flashing blue Bombay saphire light in the distance..Its JG and the Gin Police!!!!*
Scarper!!!!!!!!! :D
;) ;) ;) ;)

Missie had Bakers for years, never did her any harm. Coat good, weight good, poop good :)

mmmmmm, bombay saphire!!!!  with tonic water, ice and a slice of lime!  pure magic in a glass

Liberty ofcourse people can feed whatever they want to their dogs.Does this mean i am not allowed to put forth my opinion of certain foods.I would never tell someone not to feed their dog X brand,however i am sure i am allowed to put forth the positives and negatives IMO of said food.If after all the information and opinions have been put out they still choose to feed their food, well thats totally up to them :)

I can only tell my experiences and opinions,whether they choose to listen is completely up to them. Just because my opinion isnt the same as yours does not make my points any less valid than yours.

I see the effects bad foods have on dogs every single day,nutrition is the first thing i look at when treating an animal,a change in this area alone often works wonders.I am not talking out my arse here Or spurting things out off the top of my head,if you saw what i do practically every single day i am sure you would change your tune.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but to attempt to belittle people for using a brand YOU feel to be inferior is neither useful nor educational.

As I say, there is no 'perfect' dog food, so if it suits some dogs all well and good. To infer that feeding Bakers is something that is dished up because its convenient, without consideration of the health of the dog, is not the best way to get your point across. It was not that many years ago Chappie was considered a poor quality food........how times change.

>>Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but to attempt to belittle people for using a brand YOU feel to be inferior is neither useful nor educational.<<

Where was your outrage, Liberty, when Chloe told the OP to \\\"button it?\\\"  Are only those who agree with you \\\"entitled to an opinion,\\\" as you so eloquently put it?

I didn't tell the OP to "button" it SitStay - really, if you are going to criticise someone please get your facts right :)

sitstay she told Jo to button it, i guess that makes it allright ;)

When I said \"OP,\" I meant other poster.  I realize it also, and here, perhaps always, means original poster.  But you are right, Sara.  I am sure that makes it just fine and dandy.

>>I didn\'t tell the OP to \"button\" it SitStay - really, if you are going to criticise someone please get your facts right <<

Here is the copied and pasted quote from your earlier message in this very thread:

>>Oh Jo - button it will you

I apologize for being right yet again.  I know how it annoys you.

Jo wasn't the OP - Balliesmum was. OP is Original Poster :) Does that help?

Jo wasn't the original poster
:rolleyes: