Im very sorry if i have cause controversy about dog showing. You are right i was speaking from inexperience and i hope i havent offended anyone. Its just that to me the dogs dont generally look like theyre having that much fun but thatnk you for putting me right! I completey agree with Sashkameo. people who advertise animals in that way are irresponsible and i would never consider buying a dog from some one who was advertising in such a terrible way. I think the breeder said the hip score for the mum was 5 and the dad was 6.

Ah but where have you seen any dogs being shown.  Is it the few seconds of concentration in the final shown on TV at Crufts.

yeah that could have been where i got my mistaken views from! :rolleyes:sorry!

They are brilliant scores but did you not see the actual paperwork.  Any breeder would show the paperwork with the results on.

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im sorry brainless! please for give me lol! yes i did see paper work, not that it made that much sense to me but i did see it

The clear DNA results are in the form of a certificate from Optigen & not the KC or the BVA BTW Very pretty they ae too cream with a nice gold seal. Sadly my BC puppy has only one of these instead of two.

The breeder must be really on the ball to have had the labs done as I didn't think many people had in the UK

I spent the best part of an hour last week, trying to explain to one of my collegues, the difference between a labradoodle and any pure bred breed. He is in every other way a sensible and intelligent man, but this obviously didn't get through :rolleyes:   He was convinced it's a breed and I'm afraid he's far from the only, otherwise well informed person, "knowing" about labradoodles.
Accidents happen, and a pup is a pup, always deserving the best. But the people designing breeds to fill their pockets deserve the opposite, I'm afraid!
I wish the poster who is getting a pup the best of luck, for the puppy's sake, really.
Karen

The hip score one is easy to read.  It has 2 columns, one for each hip :d  Each individual area is scored, preferably you would love them all to score 0, but unfortunately this is the minority.  Then at the bottom the totals are all added up and a final score for each hip put at the end.

This is how we came by so many breeds rather than just having 'dog'.  Before the KC dogs were bred and mixed for traits and looks and so on as and when the need arose.  Having a KC and set breeds and breed standards does not mean people should close the door to the concepts of developing the types of dogs suited to the public demands. So in theory  it is not really all that wrong...

But I think with these poodle crosses they are just a first generation cross rather than a genuine attempt to establish a breed?  Also the suitability of the dogs to allergy sufferers is too misleading and should be taken up by Trading Standards. For Allergies they should stick with the poodle.

People are aware of the health risks of pedigrees and pay a lot extra insurance for the extra health risks so a cross has a lot of appeal for people who want popular high status trendy healthy dogs and are prepared to pay any price for them. But I don't know why these do not just go find a cute cross from a rescue. Where I live most dogs are from rescues and it is seen very high status to give a good home. And if they want to pay more for the dog they can always make a more generous donation to the shelter.

  ....and  I'd worry that probably also to be used for cross breeding like this I'd guess the dogs used fail to stand up to breed standards so well so are not even healthy well proven breeding stock.    If people are daft enough to part with so much cash for a cross then more fool them.

...but this is why I am not wealthy! I am too set in my ways to  think of making such easy money by doing something against my conscience!  Basically....Drat!    ;)

good points Tenaj! Lots of 'labradoodles' are not just bred up to 1st generation. i have come across 5th and 6th generatyion ones. To me, its not importatnt hether the dog is a cross breed or a mongrel as long as i feel it would fit into our family.

But there are breeds already out there that look and I'm sure have similar characteristics.  I know that my breed, not for one second am I publicising it though as I'd hate for it to be sold like the Labradoodles are at the moment have somewhere a breed that the Poodle also comes from as they are very similiar.

Why breed more breeds when there are hundreds out there already that would meet any demand?

Just wondering???

I still don't believe that x-breeds are any healthier.  They can still have all the illnesses that pedigrees have.  I know that not everyone is poorer that has x-breeds but let's face it many people that have cross breeds are on a lower income and I wonder whether they can afford to go to vets with every ailment that they have and this is why it seems that they don't have as many problems.  I know that I and many people with pedigrees have some that live well into their teens without any problems.