Would someone be kind enough to list the full ingredients and protein content etc.   I am not looking to argue pros and cons, just interested.

Thank you kindly 

Gusto Adult:
Cereals/Bakery products; Meat and animal derivatives (min 25%); Derivatives of vegetable origin (beet pulp min 2.5%); Oils and fat; Minerals and vitamins; BHT as antioxidant.

Typical analysis:
Protein 21%; Oil 8%; Fibre 3%; Ash 9%; Vitamin A 15,000 iu/kg; Vitamin D3 1,500 iu/kg; Vitamin E (as alpha tocopherol) 90 mg/kg; Copper (as copper sulphate) 12 mg/kg.

Cheers for that

OH MY GOD :(

Sorry,i was just >shocked< to see how bad the ingredients in gusto actually are

Ah, but it's not designed for people. :)

But people buy it for their dogs,dont they!

Yes, we have a few poster whose dogs do very well on it, so clearly their dogs have not spotted whatever it is in the ingredients that you don't think should be there :)

>so clearly their dogs have not spotted whatever it is in the ingredients that you don\'t think should be there<

Obviously dogs dont read the ingredients and then buy the food,so no,clearly no dog is going to spot it :rolleyes:  As for the ingredients that i think shouldnt be there,well,that would be all of them :(

>Obviously dogs dont read the ingredients

Sara, that was my little joke :) to keep the posting light as the OP did not wish a discussion on the pros and cons. 

Sara, the OP said:

>I am not looking to argue pros and cons

It's only polite to go along with her wishes. :)

Yep all mine are on it, have been for a couple of years now, and do just fine. :)

If you check the ingredient list of many premium dog foods they all contain roughly 25% to 28% meat and then the rest is cereal.  Of course many manufacturers disguise this by breaking the cereal portion up into minute fractions. 

As far as meat and animal derivatives are concerned, I hope you don't eat sausages, burgers, chicken nugget type products, or any ham product not sold 'on the bone' otherwise you'll be horrified ;)

Oh good,i was hoping someone would come on that feeds it  :) Goldmali can you please tell me what the cereal and bakery products are,and the meat and animal derivatives,and also the derivatives of vegetable origin. Perhaps when i find out exactly what these things are the food wont look so bad :) Ofcourse i\'m assuming because you feed this to your dogs you actually know what it is you are feeding them?? :)

>I hope you don\'t eat sausages, burgers, chicken nugget type products, or any ham product not sold \'on the bone\'<

No way,gross!! I will not eat something of unknown origins

No Cumbrian sausage?  What a shame :)

Why would you need to know?  Surely it's enough to know it is safe and nutritious?

Tsk..now Isabel you should know better

>Cumbrian sausage<

;)

Don't tell me you would eat a Southern sausage :p

plah!!!! bleeeugh! of course not :P
I would eat only the Finest Cumberland ;) sausage from 'Higgys' (Higginsons) in Grange Over sands.
:D :D

...and a quick slip in to check the ingredients of a large cake in that super tea shop down the bottom corner while shopping there, no doubt :p

OI!!

Lincolnshire Sausages thank you! :D

But can you tell me the ingredients and analysis please!!??? ;)
Before I try these Lincolnshire sausages. :P

mmmm.....cumberland sausage with onion gravy

yayyyy!! then we have to go to the swimming pool thats filled with sea water built on the edge of the sea (is it still there??) to work it all off :D

I think so but just a stroll along the esplanade will do for me :)

oooooh I can almost smell it..... :)

mmmm Cumberland sausages and Kendall cake to finish it off :d

Nope haven't got a clue and really I don't care either -for me the proof is in happy,healthy dogs that don't need the vet, have good coats, are not too fat or too thin, enjoy their food, do well at shows and manage to have puppies without problems. :) I don't know everything that is in the stuff I myself eat either, but I know what makes me feel good and what doesn't. :)

I shouldnt worry Goldmali (as Im sure your not) Sara seems with her mock surprise @ Gusto to have forgotten her post of several days previous informing
Andee that Gusto's ingredients are "how should I say terrible".
Agent provocateur
;)
Pot,kettle, black....on ingredients there,me thinks :)

Huskygal FYI from what i remembered from last time i vaguely perused the ingredients at the pet shop that it was pretty bad,but i had forgotten how bad!

Does this answer your cynical post? :)

It does yes :)
You'll have to forgive the 'cynicism' Its just you'd advised someone only 3 days ago to read the ingredients of Gusto and told them it was terrible, then you are asking someone else to tell you what the ingredients are..
To me that read like you were deliberately trying to 'trip' somone up in public..which I thought a little cruel really.
Like anything sara..its just my opinion or rather the impression I got.
Sorry but thats how it looked :(

I see!  No like I say I consider  my dogs to be the proof I need. I am very happy with Gusto. I'm sure not all foods suit all dogs, but Gusto suits mine better than any foods I've used in the past. :)

>Nope haven\'t got a clue and really I don\'t care either -<

OK :(

I don't know if I shall feed this or not yet, but I don't have too much of a problem with the meat and meat derivatives bit.   Both my Labs will hunt out any piece of rotten animal
carcase they can find, and will devour, with great relish, the skull, skin, fur, feathers, claws,  guts, maggots, etc just as well as the meaty bits.  And as for vegetable origins, surely that can't be much different to cow pats and other herbivore droppings.

So I wonder if basically Gusto may contain some of the above,just in a more convenient form! 

I prefer teh Autarly which ahs named protein sources and I found for one of mine especialy the herbs in it helped her digestion and eliminated the occasional bouts of grass eating and bringing up bile.

Sara, You've taken that part of Goldmalis post completely out of context!! Surely the important part of the response was 'happy,healthy dogs that don't need the vet, have good coats, are not too fat or too thin, enjoy their food, do well at shows and manage to have puppies without problems'  It's not the food I would choose but as there is nothing harmful in it and other peoples dogs are apparently doing so well on it I can't really see why it should bother you.

Karen

Thank you Karen. :)

>but as there is nothing harmful in it<

Karen look closer :)

Sara, if you don't like it, fine. That's your choice. If other people find their dogs enjoy it and do well on it (far better than they do on Burns or JWB, for example) then let them alone. Don't become a food fascist. ;)

>Don\'t become a food fascist.<

LOL :D

Hardly a food fascist,more a caring dog owner with more than a passing interest in what my dogs eat and what they need :)

TBH my first concern is for the dogs,the owners feelings are not paramount when it comes to this subject. Besides, maybe the people who feed this food arent aware of how unsuitable it really is,it cant hurt to try :) I\'m sure there are loads of lurkers who read this site but dont post as i was for a fair while,some of whom may be considering this food,hopefully i can put as many off of feeding it as possible!

Yuck :(  I wouldn't feed that.  Not going to discuss the pros and cons.  Just reacting.

Not even if it suited your dog and s/he thrived on it?

>Not even if it suited your dog and s/he thrived on it?<

I dont believe any dog/carnivour would thrive on that food!I personally wouldnt risk feeding it to my dogs.

I am sure there are even worse foods out there than Gusto :( A person could be feeding one of these to their dogs,they then may change to gusto which may be a slight step up,they see their dogs doing better on the better food and therefore assume they are >thriving< :rolleyes:

Honestly,i thought this site was full of educated dog people,but if foods such as gusto are getting the thumbs up,i have to wonder :(

then substansiate it
But perhaps elsewhere as the OP stated that wasnt the line she wanted the thread to go down........

> dont believe any dog/carnivour would thrive on that food!

So you're calling people liars? :rolleyes:

>I personally wouldnt risk feeding it to my dogs.

Your choice. It suits mine much better than Burns or JWB. It's still (just) a free country ...

Jeangenie-I wonder what your version of thriving is,compared to mine ;)

>But perhaps elsewhere as the OP stated that wasnt the line she wanted the thread to go down........<

Huskygirl,you are right :) If you are really interested perhaps you could start a new thread ;)

Thriving, to me, is living longer than the breed average, and living an active life with the only vet visits needed being for annual checks (no treatment needed) or first aid following accidents. Shiny coats, supple healthy skin, no itching and scratching ... it's not rocket science! ;)

>if you are really interested perhaps you could start a new thread ;-)<

But I am not the protagonist of this deviation from 'topic'.
You've stated that you thought this forum was full of 'Educated people'..
So act like one and substansiate your comments, thats all..! otherwise I fear the validity of what your saying is lost. Personally I'd be inclined to agree with you on a nutrtitional scale but not based on what you've said (or rather not said) on this thread but my own research.

It's not getting the thumbs up from me sara.

People are free to feed whatever they like to their dogs, and if they are aware of the ingredients and the implications of the ingredients, and they still want to go ahead and feed it, then fair do-s to them and I won't try to dissuade them.

But for the people who might be browsing this site and read this thread, and may be feeding this food but don't know/haven't thought about the ingredients, then I think it's worth putting forward that we don't all endorse it.  Otherwise a very one-sided view of this food would come across to anyone reading this thread.

I dont believe any dog/carnivour would thrive on that food!I personally wouldnt risk feeding it to my dogs.

So basically what you are saying is that I am lying about my dogs being healthy? Do you want to come and meet them all? Or if you'll be at Crufts on the Thursday, you can meet one of them and 2 I've bred, all reared on Gusto!