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By vodaberry
Date 04.02.06 15:22 UTC
Edited 04.02.06 15:28 UTC
Today i was in my local pet shop and pass the frozen dog food section towards the back. I looked it and immediately became a bit queesy.... the lad who usually helped me was going on and on about the benefit of giving my dogue frozen meat and thripe.. (i pretended to know what thripe was... and looked it up on google... NO THANKS). I do not eat stomach linings of cows or whatever and was wondering if anyone else finds it hard to feed raw food to their dogs?
By Lokis mum
Date 04.02.06 16:07 UTC
No. I don#t find it difficult - because that is what dogs are supposed to eat :D

My mother's vegetarian and was perfectly happy to feed fresh, raw meat to her dog. If she couldn't cope with doing that she'd have kept a rabbit (or other herbivorous animal) as a pet instead.
Tripe is also a human food, not just a dog food.
:)
Thanks... human food... funny.
Could just be my weak stomach, i guess.

Tripe and onions was (and still is in certain areas of Britain) a very popular dish.
:)
I am not a vegetarian, but struggle to prepare meat for myself, my stomach turns, I love liver and onions but very reaely have it as I hate the feel of it

I have got a really old cook book it was my Dads, it has got some auful old recepies, pigs trotters and jugged hair. No Thankyou??????
By Daisy
Date 04.02.06 17:28 UTC
As I have said before, it kept my father alive when he had cancer :)
Daisy

Tripe is very popular in Poland. It is most commonly cut very fien and made into a stew, soup, and the tripe looks at first glance like noodles. Not my cup of tea, but very popular,they call it flaczki.
Its very popular here too B/L

called callos, its cut in chunks & made into a stew..........urghhhhhh :D
I`d never feed my dogs a vegetarian diet.
By ShaynLola
Date 04.02.06 16:52 UTC
Edited 04.02.06 17:03 UTC

Before dog ownership, I was extremely weak of stomach but I find I can handle most things now :) Although not vegetarian (I eat some meat, but not much) the mere sight of liver used to be enough to turn my stomach but I have just received my delivery of dog food from the butchers and have portioned and bagged 5lbs of liver without gagging once :) However, the smell of tripe cooking is something else

It's nearly 20 years since I last smelled it but the memory is enough to induce vomiting! My grandmother loved tripe and would cook it regularly. I can feed it raw to the dogs, though, and the smell doesn't bother me that much any more :)
*edit*
>have got a really old cook book it was my Dads, it has got some auful old recepies, pigs trotters...
A friend of mine loves pig trotters and says there's nothing better than a couple of trotters washed down with a couple of pints of Guinness. Yuk!! (to the pigs trotters anyway, could manage the guinness, though ;)
By bint
Date 04.02.06 17:02 UTC

oddly enough i can stomach most things for my dogs, however, when preparing meat for the rest of the family i find it disgusting.

Yes. I could never in a million years do it. I will only ever handle food that doesn't LOOK like anything, i.e. hot dogs, burgers, meatballs. Anybody in this house who wants anything else has to cook it themself. As for chicken and turkey, I won't even stay in the same ROOM as anybody eating anything like that.......... nor can I stomach walking past it in the shops, to me ASDA just appears to be full of giant dead frozen budgies..........and body parts. It really does bother me a lot.

i dont like it when the chicken is cooking on the spermarket rotisserie thingy,because you can see all the fat moving about & IT MAKES THEM LOOK LIKE THE CHICKENS ARE STILL BREATHING!!
Whatever dog food you feed (as long as it's not vegetarian), there is every chance that it contains tripe - just cooked, not raw. It's still tripe though :)

Ive been a vegetarian for the past 12 years and my dogs are fed on a faw diet, it doesnt really bother me. My mum however is totally not a vegetarian and she physically retches if she has to feed my dogs anything raw :D :D

With me it's got worse the longer I've been a vegetarian for. Must be 27 years now.
By jalle
Date 04.02.06 18:02 UTC
our family have been veggie alltheir life and myself for 25 years. When we feed our dogs raw meat i dont touch it but just drop it onto the grass, we can handle this cos we know its vital for their wellbeing. As long as im not eating it i dont mind.
I have been vegetarian since I was about 9, so getting on for 12 years and most of the time I'm ok with handling raw meat for the dogs...I wouldn't be cooking it for a person though :D
There are a few things that make me retch though, I cut the legs off the turkey and took the giblets out of the little bag on xmas day before my dad put it in the oven and it smelt really gross. Chloe ate most of the giblets though and seeing how much they love eating them is enough to make me carry on doing it.
They eat dry food, Ido has rice and tinned mackeral but there was some cheap rainbow trout on offer yesterday so we boughted it and I steamed it(didn't want regurgutated fish anywhere!) and has no problem pulling of the heads and taking out thw main bones(not for the dogs, my parents wanted a taste!)
The smell of NZ lamb that comes in those plastic bags is pretty gross too and the smell of any meat/fish cooking is rank to me but I can live with it.
Strangely enough, I don't mind the smell of tripe...can't fathom why anyone would eat it though :D :D
I've been vege since I was eight so just over 20 years now - I don't love touching raw meat, but I do love watching my girl get really stuck into a meaty bone, I enjoy watching her enjoy it so much. I really hate the smell of liver, but it works really well as a training treat for her so just hold my nose when I go into the kitchen until it's cooled down :-) What really makes me laugh is my brother - a meat eater! is hoping to get a dog in the next few months and has been round when I have been giving Ciara one of her bones, he has said his dog won't be getting anything like that because he thinks it's gross.
Karen
i dont have a problem at all with handling raw meat- im not a veggie though, ever since i was small my family kill all their food- well my mum and dad do, so we are used to plucking,skinning,filleting fish,birds,deer.
its the best way to eat- most natural, compared to picking it off a shelf.
the dogs get the cuts we dont eat,
By Cammie
Date 05.02.06 00:00 UTC
I would never put a dog,a carnivore on a vego diet,this to me equates to cruelty and recommending it is very irresponsible IMO :( I'm a vege and truthfully i hate touching and smelling meat,especially liver and tripe,which happen to be my dogs favourites :rolleyes: I wouldn't have dogs if i couldn't handle meat,i would get a rabbit or a guinea pig ;)

Dogs are
Omnivores :)
By jo english
Date 05.02.06 00:34 UTC
Edited 05.02.06 00:47 UTC
The human being is the worst animal for insisting on fad diets and telling other animals what they should eat =two fact both a human and a dog can survive on A non meat diet, the difference is humans have an opinion and and dogs trust us humans .-JO PS the 2nd fact is a dog is not a carnivore but like us has an can survive on an mixed diet like an omnivore
By Cammie
Date 05.02.06 00:49 UTC
Some say carnivore,other's say omni :) Can someone please explain why we need to pulverise veggie's etc. so the dog can utilise them? If they were omni's wouldn't they have the necessary enzyme's to digest veggie matter? As it is they can not digest cellulose found in veg matter like omni's can :)
I dont disagree that dog's can '"survive" on a non meat diet,not sure how healthy they would be but i'm sure they would "survive" ;)
By tohme
Date 05.02.06 10:19 UTC
The old carnivore v omnivore debate still continues.......
Scientifically, dogs are classed as carnivores which is supported by the way they are made, ie eyes at front, type of teeth etc etc etc ad infinitum.
In the dictionary, omnivores are described as those that eat both meat and veg, like us.
However, just because a dog will eat veggies and in fact most anything, some of it inedible :rolleyes: :D makes them no more omnivores than, feeding processed poultry/cows/sheep to cows makes THEM carnivores................. :rolleyes:
The fact that these items are consumed by said animals does not mean that God was wrong when he designed them ;) :)

I'm a vegan & have been since I was 12 way back in the dark ages
I don't have a problem feeding meat to my dogs & i ensure that all meat is organic & humanely produced My dogs are definitely carnivores
The veggies that wild canines eat are mainly from the stomaches of their kill & already partly digested by their prey's intestines

And of course both wild canids and domestic dogs will choose to eat ripe fallen fruit and pick ripe berries.
By Cammie
Date 05.02.06 12:14 UTC
Dogs have all sharp pointy teeth and jaws that only move up and down, not side to side to grind plant matter. They also have a very short, acidic digestive tract meant to digest meat quickly and safely. Plant matter doesn't stay in their system long enough to be digested. They also have none of the enzymes required to break down cellulose anyway. That's why in captivity plant matter has to be cooked or pulverized to be even a little digestible to dogs. In the wild, they would never find cooked or blended veggies and they wouldn't be worse off for the lack of them.
They have no nutritional requirements for any nutrient that isn't found in meat, bones or organs.
Dictionary
car·ni·vore (kär'nə-vôr', -vōr')
n.
A flesh-eating animal.
Any of various predatory, flesh-eating mammals of the order Carnivora, including the dogs, cats, bears, weasels, hyenas, and raccoons.
One who victimizes or injures others; a predator.
An insectivorous plant.
Just because dogs are opportunistic and will eat things like berries doesn't make them omnivores. It's a quick easy meal, and sugar tastes good. That doesn't mean they require vegetation for complete nutrition, which omnivores do.
I've been in and seen the omni/carni debate many times before,i think this debate is best left at agree to disagree :)
Lucky for dogs that it's Mother Nature who classifies what they are rather than us.
This allows for evolution to ensure that animals evolve to aid their survival
The dog has done just that and it is the nature of the beast that it eats an omnivores diet.
By Cammie
Date 05.02.06 12:17 UTC
Edited 05.02.06 12:21 UTC
Lucky for dogs that it's Mother Nature who classifies what they are rather than us.Really? :) Wasn't it 'us' who introduced commercial food into their diets? I somehow dont think Mother nature would agree on how we are feeding our dogs these days.She designed them to kill and eat prey,sorry i just cant see your point
Wasn't it 'us' who introduced commercial food into their diets? I somehow dont think Mother nature would agree on how we are feeding our dogs these days.She designed them to kill and eat prey,sorry i just cant see your point confusedAnd in the wild they would have a ready supply of chicken and cows???
By Cammie
Date 05.02.06 12:29 UTC
Sorry,some of the remarks here are just making no sense to me. Rather than get into a drawn out debate which will not change one another minds i will agree to disagree with you :)
Sorry, I am not aware that banana, potato's. And rice and the likes are "commercial" foods
And if dogs are oppertunist feeders why do they peel the skins of bananas
And only eat the fruit? I think it's because when it comes to food they know what they need
(She designed them to kill and eat prey,sorry i just cant see your point)The giant panda is also an classed as an carnivore whos diet now is mostly Bamboo a classic point about how animals evolve-JO
By tohme
Date 05.02.06 13:21 UTC
Edited 05.02.06 13:27 UTC
Mine don't peel the skin off bananas

Waste not want not in my household :D
As for pandas, they have evolved to eat bamboo through necessity rather than choice over a considerably longer period than dogs have been around.
This was because geographically bamboo was practically the only thing around which was regularly and reliably around most of the time and also they could not compete for prey with faster predators. Because they have specialised in their diet, (like koalas and silkworms to name but two) they have lost the ability to strategically adapt to other food sources; luckily dogs have never been put in that position.
In the mid 1800s, a young entrepreneur named James Spratt journeyed from Cincinnati, Ohio, to London to sell lightning conductors. On his arrival he was suprised to see vast hordes of homeless dogs lurking quayside gobbling moldy, discarded hardtack (biscuits) thrown onto the piers by the sailors. Shortly afterward, he turned his attention to creating the first commercially produced biscuit expressly for dogs, unveiled in 1860 as Spratt's Patent Meat Fibrine Dog Cakes. A baked mixture of wheat, beet root, and vegetables bound together with beef blood, Spratt's cakes were touted as a superior way to feed pets.
you see the idea of commercial dog food came from the dogs themselves, they were not out hunting
they had evolved to eating what was avaliable and plentyfull

much like the panda
By tohme
Date 05.02.06 13:47 UTC
I expect that explains why dogs love manure so much ........ :D
there is plenty of it about and it is always available, especially the bovine sort......... ;)
your the expert on that subject i will give you that
By tohme
Date 05.02.06 14:01 UTC
I am just imagining the inaugural board meeting where a group of dogs got together and decided on the idea of ready made food and how they were going to persuade humans to manufacture, produce and distribute it................ so that they could lounge around on sofas all day licking their b**** and not bother to scavenge or hunt anymore! ROFLMAO :D
Never underestimate the control dogs have over us superior beings
Free food, free lodging, and free health care. And the best seats in the house
Never having to go to work in the mornings yep they got a right old dogs life -JO

Is right...:-D Just think of all that conservation of energy with no responsibility, no risk to survival, hunting and being hunted... dogs have us well sussed

I'm a vegetarian and have been for about 15 years...
My four dogs are all BARF dogs however :)
Not sure why but the raw meat doesn't bother me at all... in fact, I really enjoy going to the local slaughterhouse to get my beef bones, my chicken factory where I have to pack the carcasses myself and best of all, looking through the weekly box of butcher waste where I find all kinds of things :D
I think it is the look of enjoyment on my dogs faces when they eat that makes it all worthwhile :)
By Liisa
Date 07.02.06 15:00 UTC
Im a veggie and quite happily feed my dogs tripe, they love it, although I do have to have a tea towel around my face as it it STINKS!!!!
By tohme
Date 07.02.06 15:03 UTC
ROFLMAO
I hope you do not go out whilst wearing this tea towel, methinks your appearance could be misconstrued in public in today's climate!!! :D :D :D
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