:rolleyes:Hello peeps. Was just wandering if anyone can give me any personal experience and opinions about the Lupi Harness. i.e any injury history from using one or any other related problems. Thankyou in anticipation of your valued advice.

When Roger first brought them out he used my BC Brett to demonstrate them at Crufts Brett was a fully trained dog & never wore anything other than his nornal collar, whilst Roger was explaining how they worked Brett got out of it & sat quietly by Roger's side in the perfect heel position LOL

Never used one myself though

:rolleyes: Laughed loads at the image of that one. I did think that the harness didnt look too secure myself, Thankyou for your quick reply. I am in a bit of a confused state really. I am looking at all the pros and cons for something other than the normal collar and lead i.e. gentle leaders,halti,harnesses etc and this one the lupi i mean,promises to stop the pulling instantly, to me a bit far fetched i think. Was wanting somebody elses opinion .Thankyou again moonmaiden for your witty input.

Well Brett was a very clever dog I didn't realise that he had got out of it until someone pointed it out to me :D !

My concern over any harness is they don't actually stop the behaviour all together only when the dog is wearing it & of course you have no control over the dogs head ! Nothing replaces good basic obedience training to wlalk to heel & I do all my home training off lead so my dogs never learn to pull ;)

There's a newish harness called a Walkezee http://www.walkezee.com/ that is sort of a half & half I've never used any harness(except when tracking with my dogs)but this is meant to be different

i have used most kind of gadgets on my dogs as i usually try them out for the vets i work at.
head collars:
halti: found it got into their eyes and therefore do not like it - it does stop pulling tho.
gentle leader: never used but have heard good reports
dogmatic: i use and have found it so far (5 days) to be the best i have used - doesn't get into the eyes, soft, secure and gives you lots of control, it also calms mine down.

harnesses:
normal: good on small dogs but they can get out off (always use a double lead) with big dogs it gives them more to pull against.
halti: alright but my dog got used to it after  a while and then learnt how to pull in it, good because it joins to a collar
lupi: never tried but i don''t really think it looks that secure.
walkezee: looks very good but i have never used it. i have heard good reports
other stop pulling ones: have heard that they cut into the dogs legs a bit

basically if i was going for a head collar i would go for a gentle leader / dogmatic (more expensive)
if i was going for a harness i would try a walkezee.
if you have a boisterous dog i would use a head collar
if you have an underconfident dog then a harness can give them some confidence (like a body wrap in TTouch)
HTH anna

I have used the lupi on a short coated breed and I found it rubbed sore marks under his front legs.

The best one in my opinion is the newer halti harness from Company of Animals which works from the front rather then the rear.
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I am so sorry to all of you for abandoning this thread, or at least that is what it must have appeared like.
unexpected visitors dropped in and was late when left. A huge thankyou for your coments though. To Moonmaiden, i have managed to walk my dog to heel for a number of months now without lead, she is excellent at this but if i attach lead for example near to roads she pulls like a train. From day one i have insisted on training both ways to alot of sucess but for the last two weeks i have had the lead problem. I have tried to think back to any episodes that might have alarmed her or got her excited to which i might have rewarded unintentionally this behaviour but im at a loss. She is 8 months old and im growing less confident in myself at being able to turn this once almost perfect walker back into the well mannered madam she once was. I understand hormones may be playing a big part in this but i feel i am failing her as every walk on lead now seems tinged with "what am i missing,or done wrong." I do know we are now entering the bog off stage but it seems soul destroying. I know she is still extremely young but im terrified the more it goes on i will have more and more problems. I actually lost sleep last night conjuring up all sorts of nightmare scenarios in my head.
To Sandrah thankyou for all your input. I have heard all the horror stories concerning the different types of head collars etc,but just wanted some stories from the horses mouth so to speak,rather than a friend of a friend conversation. I think i will have to buckle down and get this sorted without anything other than true grit and determination. I must add this is my only shortfall to date everything else has been spectaculary simple from day one, i wasnt naive though i knew something was waiting to reduce me to a bag of tears, just wish it wasnt this, i could cope with a late developer in say toilet traing or jumping up at everyone etc. This problem is soooooo public and can be embarrassing when using the stop start method and only getting six feet in front after fifteen minutes. Oh well, im must be glad for the fact she is a pleasure to be around,she isnt chewing chunks out of dogs or people or household items . Thankyou all once again.

LOL it sounds like her hormones have kicked in & she's in the teenage stage. Rjj is going through this but with him it's lack of attention & not pulling thank goodness. As my training is aimed at obedience it's probably more intense at an early stage that most dogs(in very short bursts before anyone thinks i spend long periods training very young puppies). The leads I do use are very strong but very light BTW lulling the dog into possibly thinking they don's have a lead on

The walkezee looks like a better design that most harnesses & other people seem to find they work & they aren't that expensive even for the full works

Yep, you said it the hormones. I understand quite abit about short bursts of obedience training, we were trotting along nicely with all aspects of this until now. I do sometimes feel as if im nagging at her abit, but for the most part of it she understands where and what i want her to do. I remember my children hitting this stage "i will do it when im ready" arrrgh. But they came out unscathed so theres hope. Like i said this is our only problem so i have alot to be proud of. Just feeling abit exasperated by this blip. I am by no means likening my dog to my children before anyone says i have a furbaby on my hands, just that all mothers out there with grown up kids will understand the perils of teenage years. Thankyou.

To anna270787

Thankyou for the indepth input you generously took the time to give me. As i have said above i was unavoidable dragged away from pc. There is alot to consider all the pros and cons as i said its probably down to grit and determination i must conquer this, gosh anyone would think im going on safari or something

Has anyone used the Walkezee Harness?  Did you find it helpful to regain enough control over your dog to help with training the dog to walk on the lead without pulling?  My 10 mth male BC lunges away from me and I need something to put me back in the driver's seat when we go out or walks on lead are miserable for both of us.

Yes, I've used the Walkezee harness - it was OK but I found I have better control with a Hi-craft stop-pull harness from Pets at Home. It doesn't actually stop pulling, we still do turn arounds etc etc but Luke is happy with it and so am I as I feel it's kinder than a flat collar for him, and makes it less likely that he'll pull me over should he do a sudden lunge after squirrel, cat etc. I tried a Halti harness but he was hopeless on that - pulled like a train! The major advantage of the Walkezee, incidentally, was that it came with a nice draw-string bag you can wear round your neck - it's meant for putting the harness in when the dog's off-lead. I find it ideal for carrying Luke's ball, and even for carrying full poo bags en route to the bin. :-)