Hi all
I am new to this so please be patient with me!:rolleyes:

OK here goes, would a bitch be pregnant if she mated on day 16, they did tie for (20 mins) but they was not completley back to back (putting it the nice way). none of them were hurt in anyway. she DONT want to know him anymore although he is still up for it!
Everywhere I have read about this and it seems that most dogs tie for around 10mins, but then mate again another day, could this be the reason why she dont want to mate again OR (this may sound silly) could she know she is pregnant?
Any advice on this please
thanks dac

Yes, she could easily be pregnant. It only takes one mating at the correct time during the bitch's cycle (which varies from season to season). Repeat matings are usually done to give the best chance of a pregnancy. Ties can last anything from 5 minutes to over an hour - and don't have to be a full turn.
It sounds as though her fertile period is over because she doesn't want to stand again, but you won't know if she's pregnant for some weeks yet.

hi jeangenie
Many thanks for the quick reply, how long will it be before he stops trying? she has warned him off and he is now staying at my mothers house but I cant wait to have him back home.
dac

Now that he's done it once he'll probably be keen to keep trying as long as she's in season! Keep her away from all other dogs till then, because it's still possible for her to be mated by a more determined dog.

she came in season on the 1st so when does it end?
she is not going out only in my garden along with me. thank you for all your help and patients too.

A bitch's season usually last around 21 days.
So she should be coming to the end of hers now.
Are you prepared for pregnany and whelping?

A season lasts on average 21 days, but to be on the safe side keep her away from other dogs until 28 days have passed.

I hope I'm right in assuming that she and the dog are both KC registered and have passed all their breed-relevant tests for hereditary conditions, are both of a suitable age for responsible breeding, and that their pedigrees have been thoroughly researched for compatability (neither too closely related nor completely unrelated)? Also that you have a waiting list of people who've booked puppies?

Forgive me if I've misunderstood your posts, but you give the impression you don't know a great deal about what you're doing ...

Thats what I was thinking too Jeangenie :)

forgive me if I seemed dumb but yes this is the first time and it's different from just reading a book, besides my vet I thought I would get some other human advice.
Both are kc'd bichons, had their screening tests done etc

I've no experience of Bichons.  What health tests do they need?

well both mine had a physical examination which included the genitlia and mammary glands.
she also had a brucellosis test done
she was wormed about 2 months before and both have all their jabs up to date.

When people on here refer to health tests, they usually mean tests for hereditary diseases, which are not usually carried out by your local Vets' practice. For example, I believe the Bichon suffers from Hereditary Cataract & all breeding stock should be tested clear of this before being bred from. There may well be other diseases that should be tested for. Problem is, if you do not test before breeding & one of the pups subsequently develops the condition, you could be sued by the new owner.

yes they had their eyes tested about 6 months ago,so surley dont need it done again yet?

As you mention testing for Brucelosis I assume you are not in the UK.  If you are in USA then the eye tests will ahae been done through CERF, and a current certificate has to be less than 12 months old at the time of mating, so 6 months is fine, but they should be tested again if either is used for breeding.

These articles on a US based site are most useful.
http://www.dogplay.com/Breeding/index.html
http://www.dogplay.com/GettingDog/breedercomparison.htm

I believe dac lives in Kent, Brainless :)

Why would they test for Brucelosis, as far as I am aware it isn't an issue in the UK and the only oen of mine ever tested was a puppy going to Australia as that was part of the import rules, as well as a months quarantine there on arrival.

I dunno, better ask them :)

tested for this because we lived on a farm and therefore was around other livestock.

If you click on this link, then click on 'Breeds' on the left, then on 'Bichon Frise' on the list, it'll tell you what they're prone to, and what they need to be tested for before they're bred.

Good list JG; very useful -but it did lack some. Just checking my own breeds it missed one major thing for each.

It's a useful start, though - and far better than the KC's Accredited Breeder list! :rolleyes:

Breed clubs are usually the place to ask for specific details rather than the internet. :)

Oh yes, definitely. It's just a shame some don't put a lot on their websites (others are excellent) as it is such a quick way to check things. :)

It would be useful if the breed clubs put more information on their web sites but of course in the scheme of things, for people embarking on the huge learning curve of studying with a view to breeding, going to the touble of contacted them regarding health recommendations is a very small thing in fact I would really expect people to have joined a club by that stage.

I didn't really mean it like that Isabel -if you take the Golden R Club's website as an example it will tell you what health tests parents should have had done so that any prospective puppy buyer knows what to ask about. (I.e. it is mentioned in the puppy buying section.) :) That's what it should be for.

Ah yes good point, that would be valuable.

Doing a quick Google they certainly need eye testing.