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By Lea
Date 15.01.06 20:41 UTC

Ok my son(7) is always getting nose bleeds. a few nights in a row and then they stop this has been going on for years!!! Half the time they are in his sleep so dont bother him, I just end up having to change the sheets. This has happened for years.
well Last night he had a nose bleed so bad that it filled 3 tissues before I got it stopped, no reason for it other than the house was hot from the heating being fixed.
Tonight he sneezed and had another one that was not as bad but still ended up with blood all down him :(
Anyone else have a child that has done this???? The amount of blood from last night and tonight was pretty worrying. He has been fine all day even going to swimming lessons and swimming lengths without any bleeding.
Lea :)

Hi Lea, he really needs to see a Ear, nose and throat Bod...sound like he needs cautery to a vessel that's weak in his poor ickle nose!! Go to the GP, explain what's happening and he can refer you...all the best, Dawn X
By Lea
Date 15.01.06 20:59 UTC

I was wondering about that but thought I was over reacting and the doctor will just say its the norm!!
He hadnt had a major nose bleed for a while so thought they were getting better :(
Ok will go and make appointment at the doctors. I dont think i will be thought of as an over protective mother as I havnt taken either of my children to the doctors for about 2 years

Lea :)
My son's nose was forever bleeding and we ended up going to the doctor who arrange for him to have his nose cauterized

He says that it was the worst thing that ever happened to him. It didn't work either :( I only found out at Christmas time that he was continually picking his nose as a child and wouldn't leave it alone so it didn't heal properly. A nose bleed (according to one doctor) is natures way of getting rid of excess blood (don't know if I want to believe it). My nose will bleed just before I get a cold, or flu, so keep an eye on him ;)
By Lea
Date 15.01.06 21:01 UTC

We wondered if it was because he picked his nose, but i can honestly say it isnt, as I have to regularly clean his nose!!!!!
Mmmmmm maybe I should let it take its course if its that bad Gulp :(
Lea :)

A, that Dr that said it's natures way of getting rid of excess blood is talking a load of twaddle!!!! Is that what he's say to a Hypertensive patient that's bleeding to death!!! (someone with really high blood pressure will have a nose bleed that can be catastrophic) Spelling!! LOL How the heck can anyone have 'excess blood'???? Sure he wasn't from the leeches preservation society??? LOL
B, Your poor Son must have had a beginner doing it!!! It's uncomfortable, and usually small children are given a whiff of gas etc, before the procedure is done...poor mite! Mind you he must have been trying to pick his brain out to cause that much damage!!! LOL:rolleyes:
my friends daughter had the same thing lindylou. She's had one nostril cauterised, and has to have the other done this year.
Awwww bless him. My husband suffers terribly with nose bleeds, and like your son they are often in his sleep. My husband went to his doctor with it because he too was filling tissue after tissue, his doctor said it is often due to extreme change in heat, pollen can also affect it (husband is very bad during summer with hayfever) any change in atmosphere is enough to set some people off. Husbands doctor mentioned about corterising(sp?) HTH a little. I hope you can get it sorted out :)
By Lea
Date 15.01.06 21:05 UTC

So the fact the new boiler was fitted yesterday and the heating was on until 10.30 (plumber only finished at 6.30 and after tidying up I didnt have the energy to check the controls) and the house was very hot could have caused it??? That was my first thought.
I will take him to the docs to be on the safe side :)
BTW how old was your son Lindylou???? Just wondering if it did come to that they would put sam under as there would be NO WAY they would get something up his nose. He wouldnt even let me any where near his tooth to see how wobbly it was!!!
Lea :)

Hi,
Having seen countless numbers of patients with this problem when working at an Ear-,nose-, and throat-
surgery, I strongly would recomend your son seeing a specialist. You can see your GP, and get reffered to the right place. This is not natures way of disposeing of excess blood, it's a week bloodvessel in your son's nose. This is a very common and absolutely harmless, but somewhat annoying, ailment. Very often young people get this. Treatment is not painful, often successfull and absolutely worth the effort. Noone is going to accuse you of being overprotective, on the contrary, you've waited more than long enough for it to sort itself.
All the best,
Karin

My daughter used to get very bad nose bleeds. Everyone used to have different ways of stopping them but we found it was best just to tilt head back very slightly, not too far as blood runs down throat. Just keep a wad of tissues underneath (3 doesn't sound that much to me compared to my daughter) and wait for it to stop. Dont' shove tissues or anything up the nose because as you pull the tissue out you also pull out the congealed blood that is plugging the broken vessel. I guessed that my daughter had a weakness that might have been down to a nose injury when she was two. Anyway once she had one she would have quite a few over the next few days and then gradually it would improve and settle down until the next episode. They were never so bad that she fainted and although the blood used to come quite fast I think it always looks worse than it actually is. She grew out of them eventually, I think she was about 12 or 13 when I last remember her having one. I guess as they grow everything gets stronger. I have a niece who suffered very badly as well and she grew out of them too.
I think they are annoying but I used to treat her quite calmly and so she just accepted them as an occasional nuisance.
I saw really novel way of stopping a nose bleed in a Ju Jitsu class. The Sensai told the child to lay on the floor and he gently smacked the soles of his feet and the nose bleed stopped. No one was more surprised than the child himself.
By Daisy
Date 15.01.06 21:33 UTC
My sister used to have very bad nose bleeds when she was a youngster. They continued well in to her teens and she had to have her nose cauterised eventually - then they stopped :)
It's funny that you should mention an injury to your daughter's nose, Cheryl, as my sister went over the handle-bars of her bike when she was six. I'd never thought of that being a cause of the bleeds - it may well have been. Her nose was never right anyway, especially when she broke it again playing netball years later :D
Daisy
By Dill
Date 15.01.06 21:15 UTC
My daughter had them at the same age. When she was 8 or 9 her school got me out of college because they were so worried about her, they just couldn't stop the bleeding (and they were used to her having nosebleeds) I took her to the doctors but he wasn't too worried about it, just said if it carried on they'd cauterise in the nose

It seemed to be mostly when she was hot/stressed/excited/ had excersised excessively (she did everything to excess

) there was an r in the month (joking ;) ) She grew out of it in the end and doesn't seem to have had one for ages now (she's an 'adult' now )
If your worried, best to check him out at the doctors just to be on the safe side ;)
Hope this helps

Pich the nose gently but firmly just above the bridge, tilt FORWARD, not back!!
By Lea
Date 15.01.06 21:46 UTC
Pich the nose gently but firmly just above the bridge, tilt FORWARD, not back!!This is the method I use and it seems to work :)
Thankyou for all your replies.
Spoken to mum and she said she used to get alot of nose bleeds. One doctor told her it was because she hadnt started her periods yet so it was getting rid of excess blood

Am glad things have moved on in the past 50 years!!!!!!!
I will make an appointment with my doctor and see what she says :)
Lea :)
>Pich the nose gently but firmly just above the bridge, tilt FORWARD, not back!!
Yes, you're probably right but I never used to tilt it right back like her teachers used to make her do. I used to think let it stop on its own. I never encouraged her to pinch the bridge either because when she was two that was where the injury was. She ran outside into the garden, tripped and smashed her nose on the edge of step. The bridge dented right in and bulged out the side. It was quite scarey and not a pretty sight to say the least. I did used to put cold flannels on her nose when it bled though as thought this might help contract the vessels.

I used to have very bad nosebleeds when i was younger. From the age of 5 until I had my nose cauterised (privately - nhs wouldnt do it for me) at the age of 15 i suffered with regular bleeds that would easily last up to 2 hours...yes 2 hours!! I had a blood vessel in my nose that protruded through the skin - easily fixed by the mini op. It prevented me from doing the one thing i now love - playing saxaphone. One note on a woodwind instrument and there would be blood everywhere!
Three years ago when I was in my 2nd year at uni, i had the worst bleed ever..from the nostral that had never caused any trouble. I did the usual of sitting as calmly as possible in a quiet, cool place, head forward fingers pinching nose for 40 mins without any success. I ended up in the A & E at Gloucester hospital, where they applied a thick bandage to nose....failed to stop it from bleeding then they tried some padding up the nose which worked on a similar basis to a tampon. That eventually stopped the bleeding after an ordeal that lasted in total 3 hours. Never found out the cause of that one, but did get told the vessel in the bad nostral was regrowing over the scar tissue and i would need a repeat cauterisation by the time i was 25.
The hardest part of the nosebleed was the keeping calm part. I needed loads of reassurance from the parents to calm me down. Deep breaths and positive thinking what was required...easier said than done!!

The poor poppet!! (and you!)
forgive me if all this you know already Lea (it was just your filled 3 tissues comment that prompted me)
But you may find it more helpful to:-
- pinch the
Fleshy part of nose and not the bridge (your encouraging clotting dont forget and the quicker the better for your little soldier!)
-apply pressure with the pinch for up to 5 mins then release (if bleeding continues repeat the application of pressure for a further 5min period and release and so on)
-An ice pack to the bridge of the nose (or some people advise back of the neck) will help blood vessels constrict..and so also helping to stem the blood flow and allow clotting. (if you dont have ice in the freezer then frozen peas in some cling film or bag then wrap in a tea towel)
-and this you probably know but once bleeding has stemed no blowing or picking! ;) even cough can some times dislodge it all again.. and no hot drinks or as your sons quite young even warm drinks which is something sufferers forget and after the shock have a nice cuppa tea and set it off again!
HtH in any way!
:)
My son was about 8 when he was cauterized. Now that I think about it he did have a swing hit him in the nose when he was 2, which probably caused the initial problem ;) He is now 27 and only occassionally has a nose bleed these days. He stopped having them in his early teens, so maybe it's an age thing?

As a child I suffered lots of nose bleeds, really heavy ones too, I just grew out of it, so maybe it's just an age thing as LindyLou says.
By tohme
Date 16.01.06 11:40 UTC
This is really scary isn#t it?
If it helps, my daughter (now 25) used to have absolutely horrendous nosebleeds lasting up to 20 mins and needing a whole BOX of tissues to quell.
She did have various tests etc and a look to see if she had nasal polyps, but she did not. She did grow out of it after a few years and it did not compromise her health at all. She has not had a nose bleed since she was around 10.
HTH
Was just going to mention nasal polyps. They were the cause of my nose bleeds a few yrs ago :) Dr. did to try shrink them with meds but didn`t work, a small op sorted them tho.
Best get her checked out :)
Hi Lea
Right don't know about hospitals in Lincolnshire but here in Manchester, well in the department that I work at we have an Open Access Clinic for such things as epistaxis (nose bleeds).
It could just be the Little's area which is bleeding and needs to be cauterised, a simple and painless procedure, as long as your child doesn't mind a doctor poking up in his nose :d :d
Does he have any other problems, sore throats, ear pain etc.
Go to your GP, especially as it's been going on for a while and get him referred to an ENT consultant.
Any queries you may have PM me and I'll try and help. I'm only a medical secretary in the ENT Department :d
By Lea
Date 16.01.06 20:29 UTC

Thanks everyone :) :)
Well made an appointment for Sam at the doctors on Wednesday, so we will see what She says :) :)
Hopefully he wont get another one tonight :rolleyes:
Will let you know what happens :)
Lea :)
By LJS
Date 16.01.06 21:04 UTC

Indigo is a little bleeder as well :D
She has about 2 to 5 a month :)
Mike was also like this when he was an ickle boy but grew out of it (he is not sure when0 but never had to have anything done :)
She has them mainly at night now but used to have them just after I got her dressed :rolleyes:
She is also worse if she has had a sniffle ;)
By Lea
Date 16.01.06 21:25 UTC

Sam seems to be worse when he has had a cold. And last week he just had the sniffles without getting to a cold so thats probably part of it. But he also seems to be a very snuffly boy, But not to the extent that he is ill.He hasnt been off school since before the summer holidays. Just snuffly so think I will ask her about that as well! Might be related.
Lea :)
By LJS
Date 16.01.06 21:36 UTC

Sounds excatly line Dingo (her name at Nursery :D ) It is sticking :rolleyes:
As I said Mike grew out of it but it is horrid when you are faced with a blood bath but they are so good when it happens that they know what to do, not bad as Dingo is just coming up to 2 1/2

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