PLEASE HELP!!!
Any one had a puppy recover from distemper?

Well yes, I did, but I have to be honest and tell you that she instead died on her first birthday as she'd been brain damaged and suffered really bad epilepsy after the distemper. However I believe her litter sister is still alive years later -she too suffered permanent damage though. (These pups both had distemper when bought.)

No, I had to have mine pts unfortunately. 

Searching the net and the vets prognosis doesn't sound good
but i cant give in yet-only been 2 days
I  bought a Border Collie pup 14 weeksold (Saturday 7th January 2006)- took it to get the first injection the next day(this could'nt be given as he was showing signs of sickness) he was given an antibiotic jab and i was told to bring him in Wed once he's improved.
Next day he had a little pus from eyes, runny nose,diarrhea still sickness, in the evening he had a fit , whilst on the phone to the emergency vets he fitted again.
He arrived at the emergency vet hospital within 20 minutes in a colapsed critical state-many tests were done and DISTEMPER was diagnosed.
He made it through the night, Today he is showing neurological deteriation, eyes flickering, jaw clamping, head rolling back too far any futher deteriation he will be pts

Im so sorry for you and the poor pup.
Fingers crossed and good wishes sent your way.

Jonelle

Thanks for thinking of me & pup (Billy)
seems like he has a 20%off getting through the distemper virus and more than likely have nuerological deformities together with re occurring fits brain tumors and/or brain damage
Distemper is a DEADLY VIRUS ***I STRONGLY ADVISE ANYONE NOT TO TAKE A CHANCE LIKE ME AND BUY A PUP WITHOUT ITS JABS***
PUP COST ME £300 AND VET FEES SO FAR OVER £400
EMOTIONAL DISRESS TO OUR FAMILY***PRICELESS***
no one should go through this all because the breeder didn't pay the £30 jab fees!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Aww Helen, I really feel for you & your family right now :-(

Sending big {{{HUGS}}} to you & Billy xx

R.I.P BILLY 10-1-2006
POOR POOR BILLY our pup at 14weeks and had him for an afternoon then he got sick with Distemper
spoke to the breeder who now tells me she had kept a fox in her garage for the past 9 months ***UNBELIEVABLE***
WHAT A DUMB STUPID********** BREEDER
least i can do is to get her to refund cost of pup and vet bills

I am very, very sorry Helen. :(

Helen. I'm so sorry about Billy. I can't imagine how your feeling. Love dogs generally but the fact it was a bc which is the breed I have really hit a nerve. What an awful experience for you. I hope in time you will have another one as you obviously have so much love and care to give a dog.
My thoughts are very much with you. X

Hi Helen, so sorry to hear about your puppy, did the breeder not give you 6wks free insurance when he sold you the pup, most reputable breeders give this with their pups, I know I do,  and I advise new owners to keep the insurance going as you never know when you might need it, but, in saying this, if the puppy was ill when you bought it, it probably wouldnt have been covered by the insurance policy, have you let the breeder know about the distemper? ( I would ask them to pay the vet bills, or at least half of them) Gosh! ......I thought distemper "was a thing of the past" not heard about this for years and years. .....

The pup should have been vaccinated if it was over 12 weeks old when bought, but I certainly do not vaccinate my pups before they are sold unless they are staying to that age. 

I will not send a part vaccinated pup out, so they aeither are fuly vaccinted if staying here to 10 or 12 weeks or not vaccinated at all if going before 10 weeks of age.

the resason I won't part vaccinate is that if the new owners vet uses a diffeent vaccinae they will inevitably do teh whole course again, meaning over vaccination. some vets o this even if the vaccine is the same, especially if the new owners don't get to the Vet in the reccomended interval between first and second jab.

I've spoken to the breeder again who is refunding £300 cost of Billy plus vet fees incurred
She has now told me that she has kept a fox in her garden shed for the past 9 months
possibly fox carries distemper????

I'm very sorry to hear that you lost Billy. At least you are getting the price and vet fees refunded but it does nothing to make up for the emotional upset.

As far as I know foxes have never been proven to get canine distemper though they can give dogs Weil's disease and mange. So it possibly wasn't the fox, just a very vivid example of the lunacy not vaccinating puppies. My pups do all go fully vaccinated but they stay with me until they are 12 weeks but if I had a breed that I let go earlier I'd do the same as Brainless and for the same reasons.

Pretty certain foxes can get distemper, just like ferrets can -all the same family.

I remember from the Burns inquiry that they said although foxes were theoretically liable to canine distemper, there had never been a proven case in a UK fox. I recall it because I was surprised by it at the time.

Interesting. A quick Google came up with a lot of info on distemper in foxes, but like you say a few said it's never been proved in the UK although other countries state they have seen it.

>>just a very vivid example of the lunacy not vaccinating puppies<<

Nobody should make general aspersions of lunacy in not vaccinating.

It is a fact vaccines have caused adverse reactions & give no guarantee of absolute immunity.

There are many Vets & Dr`s who follow the principle of non vaccination & their patients follow their advice.

There are actually very few. Most of the people you quote do not advocate complete non-vaccination.

<There are actually very few.>

I don`t see how you would know that as you are someone who is pro vax.

<Most of the people you quote do not advocate complete non-vaccination.>

The people I have quoted has been on the subject of boosters.

Vaccination is not mandatory (only for rabies if using the pet passport) & I have the right for my views to be respected by others

Total non vaccination is an exteme view held by an extremely small minority of qualified professionals in both human and veterinary medicine.

The people I have quoted has been on the subject of boosters.

Indeed, but you subtly use those people to bolster your 'case' for total non-vaccination.

I have the right for my views to be respected by others

You have a right to your views but when you advocate them to others in an open forum you have no right to expect respect for them.

In respect of your last comments I`ll refer you to the TOS of this forum to which we all agreed to when we joined.

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Specifically -

*Always be respectful of other users,...........

we sometimes hear about human vaccinations having problems
and we make the desision either to go ahead and vaccinate or not
i feel its the same as animals for whatever risk its a desision that we have to make
just the same if someone has experianced problems then they have their reasons

Helen the much publiscised alleged 'problems' with MMR for example have now been totally discredited. Vaccine reactions do ouur and occassionally they are serious. That is of course sad for the unfortunate individual, but on the whole there is no serious doubt that the benefits of child vaccination far out-weigh the risks. Just look at a disease like polio. When I was a child the thought of it kept mothers awake at night. Now it is unknown in this country.

However children are not vaccinated yearly or three yearly I write as someone with a compromised immune system due to vaccinations done as an adult

This discussion is about not vaccinating at all.

The only person I quoted in this thread is you.

Do you or do you not advocate not vaccinating puppies at all?

*Do you or do you not advocate not vaccinating puppies at all?

As you`ve already stated you hold no respect for the views I hold & can only assume that question is an attempt by you to be non constructive & for the sake of aurgument only.  I have no wish to prolong this discussion with you any further.

They are vaccinated according to what is necessary for the humane response to that particular disease.  As Jas has said the occasional individual will have problems but what matters is that the vast majority of the population has benefited tremendously.  I met the sister of a friend the other day for the first time, a very nice lady had a fulfilling job and raised a family and now a similar age to me but had spent her whole life in a wheelchair because of polio, who could possibly regret the passing of these diseases from our lives.  One day soon perhaps no one in the world will suffer from this just as we have managed to wipe out smallpox completely, maybe one day we will not have to vaccinate at all for anything other than the evolving type viruses and maybe the same could be achieved with animals if everybody joined the vast majority in vaccinating.

I am totally in agreement with you:cool