I'm really mad, Today I wnt to the vet so that my boy got his first jab and, after, paying, I've realised I've been charged for his second and third jabs, which won't happen till a few weeks later. What gets me mad is the fact that I wasn't given the choice!! Of course I've spoken to the vet clinic and they said that they've done so so that I don't have to pay anything later... Ha! I guess it's their way of ensuring that I won't be going to another vet any time soon ! Is this normal procedure?

Thanks in advance and take care...

Alex

i think that happened to me but they told me before hand that it worked out cheaper that way.

I think that is the norm.

Yep thats what has happened with me in the past when i have done over due boosters. Standard practice i believe.
Lea :)

Yes, it is certainly normal practise at my vets.

Dawn R.

Yes, I think it is common practice - but bad PR on the  part of the vet's not to tell you beforehand.

Yes, normal practice. It's important that the puppy gets the full course of vaccine from the same manufacturer (different vet practices may use different manufacturers), so if people have paid for the full course they're more likely to complete it. Otherwise some might just have the one jab, not bother with the rest, and the puppy get ill. :(

Thanks everybody for your comments. That makes me feel a bit better, although the "nurse" should've told me that they'd charge me for the whole set! Gonna play with my pup to forget about the whole thing

Cheers,

Alex

Agree with the others, but -THIRD jab?

yes whats the 3rd jab? kc?

and its standard practice to charge for both inj at time of the 1st, vets do it so the owners come back for 2nd vacc.

Yes, Goldmali, that's what the invoice says. The second's due in three weeks'time but haven't got a clue a when the third's due (Ricky will be KC registered soon).

Alex

I think that the kc mentioned is Kennel Cough which isn't a jab, but a spray up the nose. Some vets, like mine a few years ago, wanted the first two early on and then a third at approximately 5 months. Don't know why though.

Some vets, like mine a few years ago, wanted the first two early on and then a third at approximately 5 months.

yes I've come across this, but not since the 1980's.

never im always asked if i want to do something like that to get a discount but they dont do it without my permission

Sorry to put this here, but this was only 3 years ago!!!!!! Needless to say I have changed my vet since! ;)

Hi Aboladeras, could you have a look at her vax card & tell us what she`s been vaxed for please?

Just wondering if your pup is going to be vaxed for parainfluenza twice, thanks :)

Why is he having three?  The NobiVac that I recommended consists of two vaccinations only at 8 weeks and 10 weeks!:rolleyes:

This is no good for this breed he needs to be out and about at 12 weeks of age, NO LATER !

Hi Diane,

We told the vet that Novibac was the vaccine which the breeder (namely, you) recommended for this breed, but he said that the one he uses, which is "Vanguard CPV-L" is the same; so I guess that we just believed him. As for his third vaccine I haven't got a clue. I'll need to find out with the vet. In any case, he said (and I distinctively recall this) that he'd be able to see the outside world, socialise with other pups, etc. at 12 weeks of age :)

Regards,

Alex

Hi Alex

Well the main thing is that he can go out at 12 weeks to start on the floor socialisation, of course you can always take him out in your arms which is what I did with Archie and I know Neil and Rob did with Rica, in fact they had a type of baby carrier for her, and shes definately not backwards in coming forward,
Do ask your vet next time what the third one is for though, just being nosey now. !!!
Take care

Jenny

Hi Jenny,

It's good to hear from you:) I'm certainly taking him in my arms for now to see the world. The only "problem" though is that people  we encounter are too shy to caress him, or at least say "hi" (the funniest thing is that he's been mistaken for Xandra's purse!!!). Anyway, I'll  find out what the third booster's for and will keep you posted.

Regards,

Alex

Hi

I know its so sad that people dont want to talk to a puppy, Ive been taken Archie into one of the villages near me for more socialisation as he had started to back off people, I even had to ask them in the pet shop to stroke him, the man who was serving me looked at me like I was asking him to stroke a wild thing, some other customers stroked him though, its so sad that you get Mums with kids cross the road when they se you coming with dogs, sometimes when Ive taken dogs to school to meet Katie, some of the Mums look at them in horror, Im not really likely to take a dog that would bite a kid to the school am I !!!!!!!!!
Keep on with the updates, Xandra's purse thats hysterical :rolleyes:

Hi Alex ok Vanguard is the make & its made by Pfizer. CPV stands for Canine Parvo Virus & L stands for Leptospirosis. Does it not give any explanations in his vax card about what he gets for 2nd & 3rd vax?

If he uses the same manufacturers vax the 2nd one it will be Vanguard 7

*Vanguard 7:  Presentation
  
 

Vanguard 7
Presentation
An injection in two fractions: which contain canine distemper, hepatitis, adenovirus, parainfluenza, parvovirus vaccine and inactivated Leptospira canicola and Leptospira icterohaemorrhagiae vaccine.
The two fractions are:
1.Vanguard DA2Pi fraction: vials containing a freeze dried off-white pellet.
2.Vanguard CPV-L: vials containing a clear liquid.
The vaccine contains live attenuated canine distemper virus (Snyder Hill strain), adenovirus (CAV-2 Manhattan strain), parainfluenza virus (NL-CPI-5 strain), canine parvovirus (NL-35-D) propagated in an established canine cell line, and an inactivated culture of Leptospira canicola and Leptospira icterohaemorrhagiae.

 

Vanguard 7
Dosage and administration
Reconstitute aseptically using Vanguard CPV-L as diluent. Shake and immediately inject the entire contents of the vial (1 ml) subcutaneously.
A single dose of the viral components is sufficient to immunise fully susceptible pups and dogs. When first vaccinating against leptospirosis, an additional injection of Vanguard Lepto-ci is needed. The two injections to be given at least 14 days apart.
Maternal antibody can interfere with response to vaccination, and ideally pups should be vaccinated as soon as maternal antibody has declined to a level at which the pup is susceptible. However, under most practical circumstances the level of maternal antibody is not known, and because of the wide variation in the age of susceptibility the following regimes are recommended.
Puppies younger than 10 weeks of age:
Two doses of Vanguard 7 at least 14 days apart. The first dose can be given as young as 7 weeks of age. The second dose should not be given until at least 10 weeks of age.
Puppies 10 weeks of age and older:
A single dose of Vanguard 7, followed by a single dose of Vanguard Lepto ci at least 14 days later.
Vanguard 7 can be used as appropriate in any vaccination programme developed using the Vanguard range of products.
Booster Vaccination:
Leptospiral components - annual booster vaccination is recommended.
Viral components - annual booster vaccination is recommended. However, should Veterinary Surgeons conduct a risk-benefit analysis for individual animals to determine the frequency of revaccination with Vanguard 7, they should be aware of the following information. Serological data has indicated that most dogs, when given at least the first annual booster, can maintain protective levels of immunity to the viral components of Vanguard 7 for up to 4 years. For further information please contact the company.

If the 3rd vax is KC then that will be from a different manufacturer cos Pfizer don`t have a KC vax

Hi Christine,

Thanks for your lengthy and extremelly informative e-mail :) So, I guess that, as he was just 8 weeks when he received his first jab, he'll be given his second dose within three weeks (which is when we've got another appointment). The vax certificate has boxes for certain diseases (none of which is ticked). Then "Primary vaccination" (three boxes). Only the first is filled in with a sort of sticker with the name of the vaccine. The remaining boxes are blank. I guess that I still need to find out what exactly will the third jab involve. However, my primary concern was that Ricky can start his socialisation with other pups at week 12, and the Vet cofirmed that there's no problem with this. Oh, God! I feel so ignorant! :rolleyes:

Take care,

Alex

Hiya A, your welcome, & don`t worry about not knowing we all have to start somewhere  :)

If you have a closer look on the sticker there should be letters with CPV-L on it, very small I know :rolleyes: thats if that is the vaccine he used. Some have DHPi, they stand for the viruses the vax is made up of :)

Let us know when you find out about the 3rd 1 :)

Hi Christine,

Please see my response to spanishwaterdog below.

Thanks! :)