http://tinyurl.com/73czb

That's in the USA of course & believe me regulstions in the UK are much much tighter

I don't see how the government has got a direct link to this. 

Did you see the part of the article where they said, "The bad food could be present in a dozen other countries, too, the researchers say."

So, it would appear to be saying that it is not JUST the US.

It read to me like there was poor quality control, it wasn't a deliberate contamination.  Anyway the recalled products were only distributed within the USA as far as I can make out.

I posted about this last Sunday, the food has been exported to at least 29 countries including european countries. Heres the link I posted.

http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=scienceNews&storyID=2005-12-31T071559Z_01_MOL126164_RTRIDST_0_SCIENCE-PETFOOD-FDA-DC.XML

FDA official statement about the food :)

http://www.fda.gov/cvm/bse123005.htm

>>Anyway the recalled products were only distributed within the USA as far as I can make out.

LOL.  Okay, Cheryl.

.LOL.  Okay, Cheryl.

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/34189/story.htm'

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-5500808,00.html

http://www.diamondpetrecall.com

This food couldn't possibly be in Europe.  We are too highly regulated here.  Our government just cares for our pets tooooooo much to allow something like this to happen here.:rolleyes: ;)

>This food couldn't possibly be in Europe.  We are too highly regulated here.  Our government just cares for our pets tooooooo much to allow something like this to happen here.

How naive of you to think that ;)

I have no preconceived ideas one way or the other and can only go on the information provided the same as you!

Cheryl it is naive isnt it ;)

Both of you  obviously been involved with the manufacture of commerical pet food & the tests etc that are required iboth on manufactured n the UK & imported from abroad then ?

Moonmaiden just takes a little common sense and research,if you look you will find :)

FTR i do happen to know someone who up until a couple of years ago worked in a pet food plant,why do you think i am so adamant in my posting on subjects like these?

I have looked and all the sites including the Diamond site states that the contaminated foods remains in the States.

Only one pet food plant?  What job did they have in the plant?  Where was this food plant, Uk?  Was it in the States?

What job did they have in the plant?

Production line and warehouse.

Where was this food plant, Uk?

UK.

I know you have only my word on this,i can only tell you what he told me and to be honest it would make your stomach turn.One thing i can tell you without a doubt is that the stuff churning through there were NOT FIT for animals lettalone humans!
I have been debating wether to bring this up in the past,but didnt see the point as i dont have rock solid links/evidence,only the word of my friend who ended up quitting because he couldnt handle it anymore :(

FTR i do happen to know someone who up until a couple of years ago worked in a pet food plant,why do you think i am so adamant in my posting on subjects like these?

In what capacity ? what qualifications ? Why did they leave ? If they know so much they should whislte blow & you should research stuff not on the net my dear & while you are doing that check out the sampling & testing required on pet food in the UK

Why do you post thiese foreign stories ? because you cannot find any in ther UK to post

Why do you post thiese foreign stories ? because you cannot find any in ther UK to post

What foreign stories my dear,are you confusing me with someone else?

If they know so much they should whislte blow

Despite what everyone prefer's to believe,it's not illegal!

The US pet food ones Have you not read your own posts ?

I wonder are you a vegan who only eats organic food like me or do you eat processed food ? like crisps, chocolate, sausages, white commerical bread etc because if you do you have double standards

Oh silly me,i thought we were talking about this thread :o

Yawn off to bed now Hailey get googling for UK sites re dog food & deadly additives found in the UK

get googling for UK sites re dog food & deadly additives found in the UK

No need :) Perhaps you should be the one doing the googling ;)

Yep i eat all those things,however i have a choice,my dogs dont :)

CH & M/M, the FDA is the US gov. food & drug administration.

*had been exported to at least 29 countries including countries within the European Union.........* from this link   http://www.fda.gov/cvm/bse123005.htm

England is in the European Union, I don`t know whats to argue about that

England is in the European Union

So Scotland, Wales & NI aren't?    Must remember to get my Passport out for when I travel down South again!!!!  :rolleyes:   You know I'm English and I live in Scotland, the Americans & Aussies usually make this mistake by terming England to mean the whole UK, however someone from the UK shouldn't!   I know why the Scots get hacked off as this happens quite a lot!

Ok UK then for goodness sake :rolleyes:

Thank god for the government then.  :-)

I'm not sure how poor quality control in a factory has anything to do with a government?

Christine you're not a journalist are you?  You take information you read and put your own spin on it.  What has the government got to do with the contamination of an organisation's product?

Even the link you;ve pasted indicates that the US government is trying to be as informative as possible.  Although their link contradicts Diamond's link so you have to wonder where the government got their information from?  Nevertheless they are trying to keep people informed so what's your point?

No I`m not a journalist, are you? Didn`t know you had to be to post a link & part of whats been reported in that link

No I`ve not put a spin on anything as anyone who can read will notice.

Not concerned whether you think the fda contradicts Diamonds or not, but seeings tho you do I suggest you take it up with them :rolleyes:

Point is the US government state Diamonds pet food has been exported to at least 29 countries some of which are in the European Union, hope thats clear enough for everyone :D

Christine i dont see any spins :) People will believe what they want to believe even if that contradicts what's right there in black and white Some people get off on arguing and debating( personally,i hate it) and aren't happy unless they've got their finger in every pie whether they believe what they are saying or not :(

Thanks H, nice to know theresl some people that can read whats in front of them ;) :D

I mentioned it just in case anyone didn`t know who the FDA were :rolleyes:

edited to add I only mentioned government when explaining about FDA

My reply was to OdieDog (the OP ;)) and referred to the title of the thread. :)

Edit: If anyone's unsure whether a post is in reply to one of theirs or someone else's, they only need to click on 'Replies' to find out. :)

Apologies - getting mixed up who is saying what!  Late night early start :rolleyes:

C & H you are right it is up to individuals what they believe.  I don't disbelieve links out of hand and don't disbelieve the FDA link but doesn't it make you wonder why their information contradicts the organisation's?  It's not in anyone's interest for dogs to die due to the contaminated products.  The FDA is the only link I could find that said that any contaminated products had left the USA.

Anyway I think this Diamond product recall was highlighted in an earlier thread and seeing as not many people are responding I suppose people on this forum can't be using the food or have taken the necessary precautions to prevent their dogs getting sick (or worse)

* I don't disbelieve links out of hand and don't disbelieve the FDA link but doesn't it make you wonder why their information contradicts the organisation's?  It's not in anyone's interest for dogs to die due to the contaminated products.  The FDA is the only link I could find that said that any contaminated products had left the USA.*

The reuters link I posted also said it :rolleyes:

Getting a bit fed up of you doubting whats said in the links I put up. 

If you have an issue with what the links say, take it up with the people concerned, not me. I`m only the messanger of them ;)

>Getting a bit fed up of you doubting whats said in the links I put up.

:rolleyes:

What's the problem?  When organisations can't agree yes I will doubt what's being said.  Reuters is just a news reporting agency as are two of the links I put up. I'll keep an open mind thank you until a definitive explanation is produced. I will doubt the links you put up and I will doubt the links I found as well so stop making assumptions about me.

*When organisations can't agree yes I will doubt what's being said*

Firstly the FDA is Americas official government agency ruling food & drugs, Diamond is a pet food manufacturer. There is no disagreement between organisations, that is an assumption on your part and you are the one putting your own spin on it

Secondly, yes Reuters is a news agency, just so happens to be the one that is most oft used & trusted by the other news agencies ;) The difference in the link you gave for it & the one I gave is mine took you to Reuters UK home page which gave the full story, your link to you to planet ark :rolleyes:

I don`t know, if you can`t trust governments just who can you trust.............

I don't know where you think I have put a spin on anything.

What I am saying is that there is a discrepancy in what we're being told regarding where the contaminated food has been distributed. The FDA are saying it has been distributed to EU and the pet manufacturer is saying it distributes from its Gaston plant, where the contamination took place, only to states it lists in Eastern USA.  That seems like a discrepancy to me.  I know the FDA is a government department and I am not accusing them of not telling the truth but I am wondering where they would get their information from?  They would get it from the food manu wouldn't they?  It sounds like a communications glich to me, even people in government make mistakes ;)

Like I said before, until there is a definitive explanation I would not assume anything.

I doubt very much whether the FDA would leave a published around the world ( and on the FDA official product recall page) statement for all to see for over a week without the manufacturers having it corrected ;)

Diamond have published all states it concerns in the USA, but omitted any other country. If you think its a discrepency, take it up with whoever you see fit :rolleyes:

It was said with my tongue firmly planted in my cheek, Jean.  It was aimed at those who assert that our governements will protect us from all the world's evils, if only we place our complete and total trust in them.

Now you've lost me completely! All I know about politics is that Governments pass laws, having commissioned and debated studies and reports from various groups, and then rely on the general public to obey them; and for other members of the public to report those who break the laws. If people have evidence of lawbreaking and don't report it, they're condoning it.

It appears that, in this case, the system worked completely. :) Something went wrong (no evidence that there was any criminal activity, however ;)) , it was discovered and the product recalled. A good result.

Governments, in themselves, are powerless to prevent evil! Power to the people! :D :D