Hi every one,
I have just read an Urgent warning, on my dogs Ass. page. people
posing as buyers of pups, dogs, and to rehome dog. Are sending them
to China and Asia, to kill and skin, also to eat. It has made me feel
quite stressed, and sick. It is warning us to vet very deeply, buyers
of my breed plus other breeds. There are pictures of the skinned dogs.
I'm not sure if Admin. would allow the page to be shown.
But! please take it on board. Be carefull.
Regards
Denese 

When I have been to the East there has never seemed to be any shortage of their own dogs.

I know Isabel but this type of thing does go on and it really vexes me  I seen  a while ago people using dogs as bate to sharks,  There really is some horrible things going on in the world and i really wouldn't like to think about it

Warm regards Susan

I believe the dog bait thing was deemed to be a hoax.  The server is not letting me on to www.snopes.com at the moment but I believe you can search it on there

The shark-bait pictures were a well-known hoax, Susan.

They are buying dogs of breeders, and exporting them, for breeding, mostly
for there pure white skins, also other breeds. one stud had been brought from
Switzerland a large breed. Crosses they just eat. They pose as ordinary buyers.
They are asking shelters and rescue, to put them down humanly, not let any one asking
to re-home them. It's got to be bad!!As they torture them to death. I know it went on in other places,
But, now they are going every where. They are getting people to buy them and pass them on.
The doors have to be closed to them, the best we can.

I had alot of queries from foreign buyer, asking "asking the price and condition of the goods"  deleted straight away...  it is worrying

I believe that a couple of people in my breed have had strange queries where people will meet them somewhere and pay "supposedly" thousands of pounds.  Although they say that some people in the breed have done it I hope that they haven't or I know what I'd like to do to their breeders if they have!

i think they have more than enough there of their own, without the enormous cost of buying ours!!!!! I am sure this is just an urban myth.....infact they are more likely to get them from oz (has happened!) than here!. However there have been several cases of dogs being bought & then shipped to china as breeding stock.

Oh, if the shark bait pictures were a hoax I feel soo much better - I've had nightmares about that one! Hope this one's a hoax too

I'm sure this has to be an urban myth. Given the difference in cost of living, I can't see any economic benefits in buying even crossbred dogs at UK prices and then shipping them halfway round the world. Let alone going to all this expense to put them on the dinner tables of people who couldn't possibly afford to eat them given that the retail price would have to reflect cost and complexity of supply!

Why would they come all this way?  This isn't the only country that breeds dogs is it?  There are a lot closer countries than UK, think of the transport costs.

Sorry, this doesn't sound at all logical

It sounds more like one of those money laundering scams to me

Just waht I was thinking Liberty!  Whenever I have a pup advertised I get at least 3 or 4 mails which are obviouolsy these scams.  Teh location of the supposed buyer vaires - Africa, Far East or Europe, but always the same spiel, wanting me to clear funds, paying thousands extra, and then I should hand over pup and  the "additional" cleared funds to an "agent" of the buyer.  Usually say they want pup as birthday prezzi for daughter!  I often wonder what would happen to the pup if anyone is daft enough to be taken in this way - I have heard of this scam with cars and things, and they simply take the goods too, but would they take a puppy too?n  Worries me sometimes.

I do agree with everyone about the urban myth thing of people buying up dogs in the UK for shipiing to the far east for eating etc, there are so many street dogs over there, and so many being bred jsut for this sort of thing, why on earth woudl they go to the expense of buying and shipping?

bye
Gwen

It does make you wonder Gwen, after the money has been laundered, what on earth happens to the pup :(

This scam makes much more sense.  My OH's boss had a call from someone answering an ad for his boat and saying exactly what you've said about giving him some sort of large cheque then sending on extra to them. They must just scan the papers for things/pups for sale.

I wouldn't worry as if you fall for this scam, the dog will probably never get shipped. You'll find out a few days after the check has been banked, but bounced, before the pup is shipped and after the balance of money that you agreed to cash on their behalf and pass on to them has left your account, never to be seen again!

So it's safe puppy, but very sick bank balance! :D

As for shipping adult dogs to China to be eaten or used for fur, why on earth would they do that? They breed dogs in China too, you know! The government subsidizes huge dog farms.

Exaclty Phoebe, that is just waht I think about the OP.  However, on the money laundering scams, whilst a lot of them you hear about want the seller to forward the "surplus" cash my Western Union or similar,  a lot suggest hading over actually Cash to the "agent" when he picks up the object bought,  Now I can see wiht cars, boats etc they end up with something ot sell and the cleared cash, but just wondered what happened in pup situations?  Hopefullly, no-one with pups was daft enough to be caught out.
bye
Gwen

Gwen, anybody that hands over goods or puppies without the money being well and truly cleared wants their bumps feeling. I suppose if anybody was stupid enough, the pup would probably just end up getting sold on just like the cars and boats do.

As long as they don't have your address, you should string them along for a laugh just to see what happens. There's a great website about a woman who did this with some of these plonkers who wanted to buy a horse from her. It's hilarious and if I can find it I'll post it for you...

...found it! http://www.bustedupcowgirl.com/scampage.html

THE SHARK BAIT STORY WAS NOT A HOAX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :(

See this http://tinyurl.com/85yen/

Absolutely disgusting

the Snopes site does report that one fisherman had been charged with offences (although there does not seem to have been a trial yet) but the initial reports suggested this was widespread and not a one off, every country has it's cruel individuals :(

Hi Phoebe,

Read the warning on the Samoyed Assoc. page.

Regards
Denese

Denese

Awful isn't it. I know there is a huge trade in China and St Bernards are one of the preferred meat dogs. Like I say, I can't see them shipping dogs in the hundreds or thousands to skin/eat them as what they really want are breeding stock (not that this makes it any better, if anything it's worse) to start their dog farms off and they are also desparate for Western financial backers. It's a bit like the phishing scams as they'll write to everybody they can find on the internet in the hope of hooking a couple of greedy and immoral people (not difficult to find anywhere in the world I should imagine - look at our own puppy farms and I bet they wouldn't think twice about supplying anybody with the money).

What we all need to do is be aware of what's going on and like your original post did, try to make as many people aware as possible by discussing it. However, we have to be careful that we don't fall for sensationalized and innacurate reports as these are counter productive and if lies are lotd, the truth will out and it loses support for the cause. Take the dog with the hooks through his nose. YES, some people were using dogs and cats as shark bait, but NO, that dog pictured wasn't one of them.

There are several things we can do quite easily to help with no financial outlay and taking mere minutes to do.

a) Put a link to Sirius on any websites you may have (I have had it on my site for several years).
b) DOUBLE CHECK any fake fur you buy as lots of stuff is mislabelled. Piece of cake this one - part the fur and if you see skin, don't buy it. Fake fur will ALWAYS show woven fabric if you part it. I don't care if it says it's rabbit - how can you prove it's not cat?
c) Boycott goods from China and most importantly, write to their embassies (or e-mail) and governments to let them know this is what you are doing and it's because they sponsor and encourage farming dogs for meat and fur.
d) Spread the word.