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Topic Dog Boards / Behaviour / Puppy Biting
- By norad65 [us] Date 26.12.05 23:54 UTC
any suggestions on a 12 week old english bulldog biting. this is my first bulldog. i have had him since he was 6 weeks, and he is a lovely pup, but he just is stubborn as can be with his biting. has brought blood several times. I have used the no bite. NO loudly, Ouch loudly, placed in crate for 5 minute time outs, ect. I have dogs all my life but this is the first bulldog. so any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
- By Teri Date 27.12.05 00:20 UTC
<a class='url' href='http://www.jersey.net/~mountaindog/berner1/bitestop.htm'>http://www.jersey.net/~mountaindog/berner1/bitestop.htm</a>

Try the above link - it does work but only with patience, consistency and determination by everyone in the household :)  Try not to chop and change words such as you've described and not to go down the route of time-out in his crate - apart from the fact that you physically putting him in there is rewarding him by attention (any attention, even negative, is nevertheless attention ;) ) you also do not want him to see his crate as a place of punishment, rather his own personal haven.

If time-out is a last resort, the pup should be left while the family exit the room (ergo, no attention) and not the pup put out of the room!

Print the above article off (several copies) and ensure everyone who comes into contact with your puppy is following the exact same guidelines.

Best wishes, Teri  
- By digger [gb] Date 27.12.05 08:14 UTC
I agree with Teri's advice - you MUST be consistant - your pup will learn that what he does rewards him (in this case in the form of playtime and contact) and so far you've taught him he can carry on doing what he's doing, because you aren't going to keep up your chosen method for long enough for him to learn his behaviour doesn't get the reward he's seeking.
- By slee [au] Date 27.12.05 09:56 UTC
i have 9 pups and they all play bite but sometimes it can get a little to hard i just say no firmly sit the pup down dont look at it or speak to it for a few minutes. Works a charm they usually will come up to my feet and sit on my feet and sulk

i have used this method with all pups ive had they dont like to be ignored. But also make sure you dont play in a way that the pup wants to bite for instance roughing up the dogs hair on its head ive seen alot of people do this and then they complain when the dog play bites its asking for it really dont put your hands or feet near the dogs mouth nose when playing

the pup will quickly learn that its not acceptable to mouth or play bite with you
- By Dogz Date 27.12.05 10:30 UTC
hi poloaussies daughter here I read on the internet that if your puppy bites that you should wear gloves because it gives them a bad taste but dont use it to much because your pup will learn hand with glove tastes bad hand without glove tastes good hope this helps
bye
- By Dogz Date 27.12.05 11:58 UTC
i meant rubber glove soz
- By dedlin [gb] Date 27.12.05 11:19 UTC
sorry but pups dont lean not to bite quickly. it depends on the breed. a gundog has a natural soft mouth. my schnauzers however were biting up untill at least 8 months- inspite of all the ideas suggested. eventually they grew out of it thank god!:eek:
- By Teri Date 27.12.05 11:39 UTC
I don't think it depends on the breed necessarily as much as the individual dogs - as with most things ;) .  I have a hard wired guarding breed and yet following the bite inhibition method (before the linked article was even available!) found no difficulty in preventing inappropriate mouthing - one practically never mouthed at all as a pup and the others have all been completely out of it by around 4.5 to 5 months and certainly all before 6 months (judges tend to be a tad cautious of "bites"!).

As you say they do grow out of it - but only with effort and consistency on the part of the entire household.
Regards, Teri :)
- By roz [gb] Date 28.12.05 12:24 UTC
All dogs are different but consistency really is the key and on several occasions when Nips was younger I had to politely remind visitors that it simply wasn't acceptable to allow ANY mouthing irrespective of whether or not they "don't mind because he's so cute" etc,. etc!

The bite inhibition tips do work well although each dog will respond best to a certain combination of them - merely saying "ouch" to an over-excited and over-tired JRT tends to get you a response of the "Is my mouth bothered?" variety - but for sure, you do see a difference emerging even though there are times in the first few months when you think you mistakenly brought a crocodile home instead of a puppy.
- By slee [au] Date 29.12.05 04:19 UTC Edited 29.12.05 04:23 UTC
they learn that if they mouth me they dont get attention so they dont run up to me and start biting my feet i still get the occasional hand nibble when i pick them up

pups mouth for a couple of reasons first is that is how they play with their brothers and sisters (one of the ways ) and the second is teething you need to replace your hand and feet with a really good chew toy that is going to occupy the dog and stop his teeth/gums from hurting.
- By taro [gb] Date 31.12.05 10:17 UTC
My 4 month GSD was REALLY bad for play biting.  I tried saying OW etc but he just got more worked up.You couldn't leave the room, because he would destroy whatever was in the room, and if you picked him up to put him somewhere to calm down, he was so worked up he would try to get your face. 
The tainer at his classes is a member of the APDT and she suggested leaving a line on him, ( we just use an old lead with the handle cut off).  It can't be left on outside unless he is supervised incase it gets tangled.  Anyway, now when he bites we all say UH UH and lead him to the utility room for 15 SECONDS time out.  The trainer said that if you leave him too long, he forgets why he was in there. Sometimes he can be in and out like a yo yo.  When we first started he would flop on his back but we would just pull on the lead,  not too hurt him, but after a few seconds he would stand up and now he doesn't flop over. We have been doing this for a few weeks now and he isn't 100% but compared to what he was like, I would say he is nearly there.
This is the only thing that worked for him, but everyone needs to do this each and every time he bites, or now, even if he touches you anywhere with his teeth.  Each dog is so different, but having 2 kids of 11 & 14 who needed to be able to control him without anyone needing to smack or anything, this method definately is working for us.
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