For the past two mornings on our early morning walk we have come across an IDIOT walking an off lead, IN SEASON husky bitch!

If I see him tomorrow he's going to get an earful from me! Why are people so stupid!!!!!!???

I walk two dogs one of which is entire ( I do lead walk him though as he's not my dog and isn't off lead trained ) he's only a Westie but has gone nuts as soon as he gets wiff of this bitch, it's hard to describe but just well up for it! My dog is castrated and has no interest which is great as I walk him off lead.

Anyway back to the story there is an older woman with a little Jack Russell type dog who is entire and the past two morning as soon as he has smelt this Bitch he has made a b line for her following her behind and the guy yesturday morning was A. Try to kick the dog away and B.Walking out of the park with his dog onto a very busy road with this dog intent on following. This poor woman I yelled out to her "She's in season" so she ran as fast as she could to get her dog back and when she got there she could catch him and was running around and around this other dog!!! I could help as I had my two on leads and one of them was going nuts trying to get to her!

What a nerve though, he got anoyed because a Entire dog was chasing his Bitch because she is in Season what a t**t! And to try and kick someone's dog off which was only wanting to do what comes naturally!

I really felt for this poor women as her dog is normally very wellbehaved and has little interest in other dogs. For the next few weeks shes going to have to lead walk him as he runs from such a distance to get to her. WHY should she suffer, and there is nothing we can do as you can't stop him.

You really would think people would have more sense though!

Moan over now :)

Terrible - cant believe that id be having a word or rather a shoutin match!

I would not suggest have a shouting match with any body.  There are laws to prevent verbal abuse as well as physical and although it may be annoying to some there are no laws against have an entire dog in public of either gender ;)

I feel sorry for his neighbours - can you imagine all the neighbourhood studs howling at his door for the next month?

Maybe the husky owner doesn't know any better and should be "educated"?

If a "stud" turned up on my door it would be removed by the dog warden :)  I have always walked my bitches when in season, admittedly not usually in parks, but entire dog owners have responsibilities too so you should not be expecting loose one to turn up at your home.

I didn't suggest there should be laws against entire dogs in public as that is just silly.

So I take it you wouldn't mind if your entire dog ran halfway around the park ( with you chasing it ) to get to an in season bitch and then got kicked by the owner of the Bitch?? Mmmm I don't think so, when you enter the park to walk your dogs everyday you are not going to know if a Bitch in season is about until your entire dog shoots off after it. What do you suggest walk all entire dogs on lead "just incase a bitch in season is in the park" ???? I don't think so!

I'm certainly not going to have a fight with this guy I'm simply going to suggest he walk his Bitch very very early or elsewhere in a friendly manner.

All the people I know who have entire Bitchs don't walk them in the park while in season, apart from driving all the entire dogs crazy your Bitch gets harrassed! Not a nice walk in the park I would suggest!

No personally I would not walk in a park where dogs are likely to be loose but the fact is there is no law against it so if an entire dog makes a nuisance of itself, I believe. the law would expect the owner to exert control.  That is just how it is with owning entire animals, if we feel we cannot cope with all that then perhaps we should stick to neutered animals.  Certainly the unwanted attentions of loose street dogs in the area of my weekend home, which I had never encountered before in about 15 years of living in my other one, drove me to admit defeat and have my bitch spayed.

Then as an owner of an entire in Bitch you have a responsiblity too and I feel that would be to not walk her in season in a park that is full of dogs.

It's very difficult to recall an entire dog ( even one with a 100% recall which is quite rare ) back once he has got a wiff of a Bitch in season, they are only doing / reacting to what coming naturally to them.

If i had a bitch in season i wouldnt walk then - got to be cruel to be kind in my ees, i wouldnt want to take any risks

Fully agree Isabel :)

When we have come across a bitch in season I just put Bruce on his lead and walk away in a different direction and he stays on it till I'm happy he will not do a runner with the other dog and to be honest on the rare occasion this has happened I've kept him on the lead. Still gets his walk and is nice and safe and not going to go humpy humpy :)
Very difficult situation but if both parties use a little common sense both dogs can still enjoy a trip out.

Regards
Stu

Yes common sense and an appreciate of others needs.  Perhaps someone could ask him what is the earliest he can reasonably walk his bitch and see if the regulars can work round that by going out a little later say.

I see him about 7.45 ( which is earlish) I'm going to talk to him tomorrow and see if he can go in a bit earlier. He seems ok I'm sure he'll understand.

It is a sad but true fact that one cannot unfortunately legislate for a**holes, and common sense is obviously, from this thread, not very common :rolleyes:

Ive heard if an entire dog smells an ntire bitch in season nothing is going to stop im getting to her?I dont know its just what ive heard

Ah well in Bruce's case yes hehehehe he just can't help himself.
Mine will roll in every horse dung pile he spots and even though horses are not suppose to be in the fields again we all work together so everyone can enjoy an hour or two. Can't be easy for the owners of horses due to the busy roads around here and so far no problems.
I'm sounding like a hippie from the 60's, love and peace and goodwill to all :)

You can type the word TWIT in ya know?? It aint even swearing!!! :D :D :D

Seriously what a plonker...he deserves to get his bitch GOT AT! The only way some idiots learn is if it costs them money at the Vet!!

As i only keep bitches, and don't drive, I think It the height of stupidity and lack of thought to other dog owners to walk an in season bitch anywhere where dogs are likely to be off lead.

What is wrong with road walking for the during a season.

Anyone stupid enough to allow their bitch off lead in season is asking for her to run off and get mated, as in my experience bitches can be as keen as dogs to get mated.

Having owned up to three entire bitches at a time that has sometimes meant 6 weeks or more at a time of on lead pavement pounding rather than nice off lead country Park walks, but that is my responsibility to my bitches and other dog owners.

Agree totally with Brainless. Well put! We all have responsibilities, both to our dogs, and fellow dogowners. With tree entire bitches, I know all about boring, on the lead walks far from places frequented by other dogs. That's part of owning an entire bitch. Luckily a season only lasts for so long, whereas an entire dog is "up for it" all the time ;-) . Surely it's not fair on the owners of entire males to expect them to never let their dogs off the lead, just in case an in season bitch should appear?!
Of course you will allways get the occational twit ( I dared write that ;-) )walking his or her bitch all over the place, when in season. In my experience they often claim "they have the same right as anyone else to walk where they please", in which case it usually is pointless to argue further.  Seems most people try to make the best of the situation though, a bit of common sense an cooperation always helps. :-)

I guess twit is ok I didn't want to offend anyone!:)

Anyway this TWIT was back in the Park this morning with is Bitch been harrassed by all the entire dogs about. The little Westie I walk was going crazy and my friend and I had to chase her Beagle around thankfully we managed to catch him before he got to her and she walked him on lead this morning.

I didn't get a chance to speak to him but several people have already this week and last week and he won't have it. He just says I need to exercise my dog! IDIOT! We had a little meeting this morning as many of us are getting very anoyed with him but not really sure what to do as there isn't anything we can do. The woman with the JRT has now asked him twice now to walk her away from the usual area us dog walkers use and have her on the lead as she does put it about a bit. Ofcourse like you said she's up for it aswell and doesn't object to the attention, she only quite young and a very beautiful dog.

The thing that anoys me the most is him trying Kick dogs off his, it so out of order.

I think we are going to have to put up with it, I'm going to walk in another part of the park next week, he's really anoying me and I might not be able to control myself and be rude to him next I see him!

As you say there is nothing you can really do to stop him.  You say people have spoken to him but I wonder how they approached the subject.  Getting huffy or aggresive with him will do no good and could get you into trouble with the law.  Someone pointed out he risks vets fees but unfortunately the dog owners risk very much more if their dog ends up biting him so I think there is little more you can do other than walk elsewhere or keep your dogs on the lead until this is over.

I suspect it is her first season, as an older bitch of this breed would be long gone, which is why it is advised by breed experts that she should never be off the lead except in a fnced secure area, let alone off lead when in season.

Hi, glad you like my word of TWIT!! LOL

Havr you got a Dog Warden??? It might be worth them actually earmning their money by sorting this problem out??? After all HE is causing a nuisance for everyone else isn't he?? And if you're afraid HE might damage a dog by kicking it away or causing it to resort to aggression then it might be HE has a case to answer??? At the very least the authorities will be aware and prepared for any adverse reaction?? Just a thought Hun, I know how p*ssed off you are about it!!!!:rolleyes:

All the best, Dawn X

I did think about contacting the dog warden or the Parks Police.

But I wasn't sure if they would do anything or think I was wasting there time.

I have complained along with many others about multiple Dog Walkers in the park but they haven't done anything about them yet. I was told by the Dog Warden that in October this year there would some sort of rules coming in to limited the number of dogs a dog walker can walk and some off them have to be on lead! I wonder if that's ever going to happen, I now walk my dog early morning and early evening so I avoid the pack dog walkers. Sorry that's another issue! :)

You know, oddly enough there are about five Huskies I see in my park and she is the only one off lead.

There is a guy with a lovely Malamute and a brown Husky they are never off lead as are all the others we pass by on walks they are all very friendly and very active.

She seems to be ok and does respond well to her owner but is quite young so that may change as she develops. He will actually walk her up to the exit of the park off lead and onto the pavement before he puts her lead on. :rolleyes:

Which I would never ever it's so dangerous in my opinion NO dog should be walked on the pavement or near any road without a lead on. I know people think there dogs are 100% but I would never risk it as you never know what might happen.

The guy seems to have a very carefree attitude as when he first starting coming into the park a few months ago his dog would run up to every single dog she came across to play, jumping about legs everywhere all over the place - he never called back so I did actually allow my dog chase her off. He did tolerate her for a start but got anoyed with her jumping all over his head so they seem to have an understanding now and just walk past each other. She doesn't seem to do so much anymore but that's not because he stopped her doing it. He's just needs to be educated, sadly I feel he might find out the hard way.

What can you do?

At least if this has been going on for 2 weeks it should be over soon - idiot! While Ellie was in season she just got walked up and down the road for 2 minutes - and I was careful not to walk in the direction where my friend with 2 stud dogs lives! Once Henry jumped on an off lead Staffy and the owner started screaming 'she's in season' and luckily they were close enough for me to grab him!! :rolleyes:

This is why i have never had entire males or females,i'm not a breeder so there is no need to keep my dogs entire,as evidenced by this thread they are more hassle  than not :(

To be honest it is rarely an issue owning entire bitches at least, as you use your common sense by not putting them in danger of being got at by males, and of course at the same time being responsible toward other dog owners, it is only twice a year after all.

I would never house both sexes in an ordinary domestic setting of my breed though.

It depends where you live Brainless.  In 20 years of living in 2 different locations I never had any problems at all with on street walking and, infact where I live now I had no problems walking anywhere really, I only had to alert any approaching dog walkers and they would either identify their dog as a bitch, neutered male (which the vast majority seem to be round here) or they would put them on the lead.  Only when I bought my weekend home in an holiday area did it become impossible to take my bitch out of the house without meeting poorly controlled, off lead dogs and I felt that I didn't really have any choice but to have her spayed to ensure I could adequately exercise her for the good of her physical and mental health, and mine :)