Hi
   I am trying to find a supplier of the metal weight dog tie outs, they are basically metal weights that you can tie your dogs lead to.

sounds like some mafia accessory!!!!

Hi Woo
          Yes it does sorry it's the way I tell 'em something from the film The Dogfather maybe. I have gundogs and want to use a metal block tie out on our patio to prevent our young cocker "running in" to the thrown dummy. At the moment I use a line very effective to borrow a quote its like "a safety net for a high flying trapese artist". the less a dog is allowed to run in the less time spent training steadyness to the dummy and the steadier the dog and its done with sats as a basis.

Turner Richards sells tie outs.  Have a look on their website: http://www.trgundogequipment.co.uk/

Hi 123
         Thanks for replying  Yes TR do tethers but not the one I have seen and am looking for. It is a solid metal block not a screw or push in type. It's reassuring to see TR back on the web.

Hi

I think the product you are looking for is called Dog Anchor.  I did look at importing them some time ago from the states but someone else from the UK got them first.  Unfortunately I cannot remember their names.  It is a product I will be trying to stock next spring.  Good luck in your search.  HJ

Hi Helen Jane
   Thanks for the reply, Yes you have refreshed my memory it is called a Dog Anchor and I am off to see my old friend Mr Google straight away.

Just an observation, using a tie out or line will not prevent your dog "running in" all it will stop is the dog REACHING the dummy, with some possible negative fall out when it hits the end of the line...........

Why not just develop the dog's self control and inhibition so that the reward for this is the dummy?

That way you never have to rely on any physical restraint.

I start this with placing the dummy (or whatever) on the floor and as soon as the dog's bum rises from the ground, removing it. Start close and static, then far away and static, then, as you should only train one variable at a time, close with a throw, then far with a throw until you can then increase the level of difficulty.

Just a thought.

Hi tohme

              Thanks for the reply .
Ah what a perfect world you must live in. Ununfortunatly once you start to introduce gundogs to a dummy they will do anything to get it, they live and dream dummies, dummies, dummies . In the early stages restraint is neccessary each time the dog gets to the dummy  it is Ten times harder to stop them next time. Again another quote "it is better to preserve a saint than to reform a sinner". Of course the tie out is gotten rid of as soon as possible but it is a useful bit of kit for early training try it and see. As far as - fall out goes since it stops the dog reacing the dummy the + side outweighs any -

"Ununfortunatly once you start to introduce gundogs to a dummy they will do anything to get it, they live and dream dummies, dummies, dummies . "

Really?  I never knew that :rolleyes:

Do you know, exactly the same thing happens with other breeds and balls/tuggers/sleeves or in fact ANY item that you want them to retrieve? (if of course you have a dog genetically programmed).

I think I probably have a vague understanding about why one should not allow a dog to rehearse unwanted  behaviour and how much better it is to preserve a saint than reform a sinner ROFLMAO :D

Thanks for the invitation to try out this "bit of kit" but I prefer not to rely on "gadgets" or "kit" but use operant conditioning to work with the dog's natural learning style, ie cause and effect!

Thanks for the tip though.

I will store it  away in my memory banks if at any time I find that positive reinforcement fails to work......... ;)

Hi Tohme
             Don't worry about it.