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- By mrs mop [gb] Date 06.12.05 17:45 UTC
I've had my hair coloured today, a deep rich brown with very red hi-lights.  Can anybody reccommend  a decent shampoo and conditioner that will help make the colours last.
I know red dyes fade quickly, so I want to do the best to keep it bright and shiny for as long as poss.  There are so many shampoos on the market that say they will help prolong colours, I wondered if any of them do actually help.

Thanks folks
- By liberty Date 06.12.05 17:49 UTC
A teaspoon of malt vinegar diluted in a jug of water, then used as a rinse will keep your hair bright and shiny (blondes use lemon juice) but am not sure it will help prolong the colour :)
- By Lea Date 06.12.05 17:51 UTC
So what do you do if you have just had red AND blonde chunks put in your hair!!!!! (I did last wednesday!!!!!)
Lea :)
- By liberty Date 06.12.05 17:53 UTC
:confused: Typical.......trust you ;)
- By Lea Date 06.12.05 17:55 UTC
te he he he he he
And you expect any different from me Liberty ;)
Lea :D
- By ChristineW Date 06.12.05 17:53 UTC
I speak as being the sister of a hairdresser but the best products are usually the ones the salon's sell, the ones in the supermarkets etc. are the 'watered' down versions (They aren't literally watered down just not the same quality as salon products hence the salon products costing more).
- By Natalie1212 Date 06.12.05 18:03 UTC
Being a hairdresser I have to agree with ChristineW, don't use any shampoo with silicon in it (the biggest criminal of this being Pantene) it will make it shiney, but will dull the colour, and does nothing for the health of your hair, the best (comercial wise) - in my opinion - would be V05, but if you can, go back to the hairdressers and ask her to recommend a shampoo, it will be a bit more expensive, but worth it to keep the new colours vibrant.

If you have a hair and beauty wholesalers near by (Sallys for example) try there for lower prices, some you have to have a card to say you are actually a hairdresser, but some you don't.

Good luck, I have a copper colour highlight (along with a dark chestnut and a light blond) put through mine and the copper never lasts as long as the other two!!
- By kahnandkcsmum [gb] Date 06.12.05 18:08 UTC
Baby shampoo is very good ! They are mild but still cleanse the hair very well.! DONT use dandruff,tar shampoos even if you have a dry scalp. They strip the colors out !! The salon ones are very good ,but make sure the stylist who coloured your hair gives you the right one ........as you will be paying premium prices. Miranda x
- By gwen [gb] Date 06.12.05 18:15 UTC
Aveda do a fabulous shampoo and conditioner gor Red Hair (Called Red MAdder, I think)  the conditioner actually has an element of colour in it, so be careful when using!  It prolongs colour for ages!
bye
Gwen
- By Thompson1 [gb] Date 06.12.05 18:52 UTC
Hi as a hairdresser I would recommend that you only use kerastase and they have a range for coloured hair.l... plus the bottles bright pink lol
- By guiness [gb] Date 06.12.05 19:49 UTC
I have light coloured hair that has been dyed bright red underneath and had matching streaks,so im a lil wiered too. :) I use treseme shampoo and conditioner,i find it keeps the colour in and doesnt dry your hair out either.A bit on the costly side though worth it. :)
- By munkeemojo Date 06.12.05 22:37 UTC
i used to use Aveda when i had coloured hair-it was fab. I used to get mine off QVC.
- By Carla Date 06.12.05 23:21 UTC
I've had my hair every imaginable colour - and, unfortunately, red just doesn't last. I love it though and I'm having a very mad pink put in before my wedding on xmas eve :D It'll have fadded by boxing day though :rolleyes:
- By CherylS Date 06.12.05 23:31 UTC
Oooo this is good.  Now hairdressing experts can you help me?  I use Pantene and I know it has a bad reputation but it helps to stop my hair getting too wild.  My hair is very very curly and I do nothing with it expect wash and dry naturally yet when I've tried changing shampoo brands it can make such a big difference to the dryness.  I always use conditioner.  I made a huge mistake a few years ago when students at college did an experiment on shampoo and found there was no difference made to hair whether you used  expensive brands or supermarket own brands.  I tried supermarket brand and my hair turned out like Worzel Gummage's!  I ended up just going to hairdressers and getting it cut shorter because it was so ruined.  He gave me a hydrating conditioner but it was £10 for a little tube and considering I wash my hair at least 4 times a week it was too expensive to continue with.  Any recommendations?
- By Brunodog Date 07.12.05 10:41 UTC
I recently tried VO5 Fade Defy, seems to be better than others so far, its in a bright red bottle :)
- By Hopie [gb] Date 07.12.05 10:49 UTC
I also have naturally curly hair and have to wash it most days.  I use kerastase and also use paul mitchell shampoo but I always use paul mitchell leave in conditioner. It really makes your hair easy to brush and feels great. It is slightly expensive at about £8 a bottle however you only need at small amount on your hair, mine lasts for ages.
- By briedog [gb] Date 07.12.05 10:55 UTC
ok i got a salon
buy only from hairdresser shops not from the high street shop beacuse of the ph balance as well,as other reason too.that may stripe out the colours.

reken
paul mitchell
wella
all the main 3 products we use
- By Natalie1212 Date 07.12.05 10:55 UTC
Chez, the first thing I would say for curly hair, and I used to say this to client's when they wanted something, is go to Boot's and get some Frizz-ease, even if it isn't frizzy, it gives you a lot more control, it is pricey (even for a shop brand) but only a very little dash of it is needed, and it lasts for ages, if it is very frizzy you can also get Frizz-ease shampoo's and conditioners, they are fantastic, and the best I have ever found from shops or salons.

Next ask you hairdresser what she would do with your hair if it was hers (are you keeping up? ;) ) ask her to show you pictures of it, or explain it completely, and if you like the sound of it, then go for it, I know it sounds stupid to have your hairdresser decide what to do with your own hair, but believe me, they will know exactly what sort of cut would suit and make it easier for you to manage etc. If you don't like what she comes up with, tell her BEFORE any cutting get's done, and she will work something else out for you.

Loads of people think hairdressers are only there to cut/dye/style someones hair, but there is a lot more to us than that!! :D Why don't you try booking an extra 15 minutes or something with her next time, and have a proper chat with her?
- By Oldilocks [gb] Date 07.12.05 11:37 UTC
My hairdresser recommended 'Aussie colour Mate' shampoo, my hair is naturally auburn but goes a bit streaky 'yellow' in the sun!
- By janeandkai [gb] Date 07.12.05 12:04 UTC
I'd second (or is it third now ;) ) Aveda... Madder Root for reds, shampoo and conditioner both good, smells scrummy too.
For those of you finding the blonde is a bit brassy looking try the Blue Malva.... its brill, it even toned down the orangey looking bits in my hair where the sunlight had naturally lightened my hair.
Would reccomend buying from QVC cos if you dont like the products you can send them back even if you have used them and get a refund ( minus p&p) ... they do some lovely "starter" kits so you can try more than one product :)
- By Blue Date 07.12.05 12:22 UTC
I personally have used Paul Mitchell for years with great results ( I think so anyway ;-) ) I even use the detangler on my dogs furnishings to comb them through :-))     I tell you people laugh when they come in my grooming room and see half the products there ;-)
- By Lokis mum [gb] Date 07.12.05 12:26 UTC
Oh blimey, Nat, now you've got me worried!   I'm one of these "straight as a yard of pumpwater" people - my hair is fair, fine and shoulder-length.  Ive used Pantene shampoo and conditioner for absolutely yonks now - give it a break about every couple of months & use something like Paul Mitchell for a couple of bottles.   I wash & condition it every 3 days or so - its also quite greasy-ish.   I don't have split ends & it seems in good conition .....am I really ruining it?????

Margot
- By mrs mop [gb] Date 07.12.05 13:12 UTC
Hasn't this got nice and 'girly' now!!  Anyway, I popped back to the salon that did my colouring and on their advice have purchased Paul Mitchell stuff for coloured hair, so
hopefully this might keep the colour stonger for a bit longer. 

Interesting point about pantene, always made my hair nice and shiny but after a while it would become incredibly lank.  I suppose this would be a build up of silicon.

Anyway, I'm going to give the Paul Mitchell stuff a go and see how good it is. (Hopefully, cos it's not cheap!)
- By Natalie1212 Date 08.12.05 11:33 UTC
Sorry Margot only just seen this, as the other poster says it is the build up of silicon on the hair shaft that makes it look nice and shiney, but because of the coating it can and does break down the hair shaft and if you use a different shampoo for a while you will find that your hair will break off when you brush it, and just generally looks awful, so people go back to using Pantene 'because it always looked shiney and soft' just to carry on ruining it.

I have this conversation with my sister every few months when she moans on about her hair, and she still goes back to using Pantene!! :rolleyes: Me? I would rather have dirty hair than use it!!
- By Nico101 [fr] Date 08.12.05 11:28 UTC
Hi ya i use Blue Malva on Rutger my Weimaraner!! brings his silver out fab!!! also try looking on http://www.lookfantastic.co.uk/cgi-bin/lf.storefront  they have salon stuff but a bit cheaper!!

Ceri xx
- By munkeemojo Date 09.12.05 23:03 UTC
i've just discovered Molton Brown's shampoo and conditioner (i've a molton brown advocate-their sugar polish is THE best best scrub i've ever used and you don't need body lotion afterwards!). The indian cress conditioner is to die for! I don't know it they do a coloured hair shampoo though. 
- By Kash [gb] Date 09.12.05 23:16 UTC
Does anyone have any opinions on 'Organics'?  My hair's lightish brown with caramel streaks and a touch of platinum blonde in that.

Stacey x
- By roz [gb] Date 10.12.05 10:31 UTC
I've got blonde highlights (overally my hair is more blonde than whatever my natural colour is!!) and recommend Paul Mitchell products. But unless your hair is really out of condition, use the detangler or leave in conditioner after washing and then condition it with something like their Colour Care product every two or three days. Otherwise you tend to get conditioner build up. I once had a hairdresser who said that most people have been "conditioned" into thinking they need to constantly condition their hair and not to be fooled into slathering on tons of the stuff every day by the manufacturers.

Having recommended Paul Mitchell, I'd also suggest changing products every once in a while but to another salon quality range, not just what you can buy in the supermarkets. Right now I'm using mcp (stands for "modern organic products") frequent shampoo and detangler and I've been very pleased with how it works.
- By Natalie1212 Date 10.12.05 11:02 UTC
I can't remember what the lab tests said about Organics, but as I have said the only 'shop bought' shampoo/conditioner (although I don't use conditioner at all) I would use is V05, that said, it is only my opinion.

Re conditioner, last time I heard anything about it's usage the general advice was if you need to use conditioner (thick, tangly, curly hair...) then to use it, but to use it all of the time on fine/lank/flyaway hair can cause more damage than good. My hair is very fine, I have a lot of hairs but each one is very very thin, it doesn't damage easily, but is very prone to static, and does have a tedancy to get greasy, I don't use conditioner because it makes my hair get very greasy very quickly (I am talking about in a matter of hours), it makes more static, and it goes so soft that I can't do anything to style it. The only time I ever use a conditioner is the first wash after highlights, then when I get home I wash it again and take the conditioner residue off.
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