Just heard about 2 Labradors that have died in Fife. Training classes over there appear to have been suspended.  Quite a few people are staying away from local shows this weekend!

Are there any other known cases anywhere?

Have they been tested for Parvo?  There ar quite a few viruses going around at the moment that are similiar to parvo.

As far as I know the dogs were tested for Parvo. 

disturbing news if your in that area .
Maybe it was a good thing that I didnt enter working and pastoral this weekend I would have been very worried.
Roni

That is really worrying, is there a report anywhere or is it just word of mouth so far?

does anyone know what the symptoms were? I've just come back from W & P Breeds As of Scotland, and monday morning my G.S.D. bitch was sick and not her usual self. OK at tea time, had her food, no problems. Today she had her breakfast, but at tea time was sick again twice and no interest in food...not that I was going to give her any, let her stomach settle. I have no idea what has caused this, and quite unusual for her to suffer with sickness. There hasn't been any 'runs', just the sickness.
Deb

Thats a worry as gundog breeds is on there this weekend.

It takes 7-10 days for parvo to show. I think it is more likely that your dog ate something.

Try looking at www.workingdogs.com/parvofaq.htm There is a good article there.

Can dogs still get parvo if they have been vaccinated against it

Yes - but it's less likely.

Apparently those dogs that have died from the parvo outbreak were vaccinated with a vaccine that was brought over from Ireland and didn't work.  This is the story I have been told by someone who runs a ringcraft class in Fife.

Can someone give me  more info? the name of the ringcraft class?

I am in Fife and an a member of the Glenrothes one held in Stenton on Tuesday and I attend the Kirkcaldy one held in Coaltown on a Wednesday.

If it was myself I would share the information even if it is found not to be 100% for peace of mind.

What type of vaccine an actual Parvo vaccine. Could it be this has caused the problem?

Just came across this site today and am reading this in total disbelief!! I'm the person who lost the two Labradors and I can assure you that they were NOT given a dodgy Irish vaccine. I am on the committee of Kirkcaldy and District Canine Club myself and the committee member who told you this is deliberately lying to you. At our committee meeting on the 8th of November it was brought up that there were other cases in Cardenden in Fife that had been caused by dodgy Irish vaccines but every commitee member there knows perfectly well that my case is not due to this. The youngest puppy that I lost had not yet had her first vaccination when she died and she went from a bouncing happy pup who was a bit off her food in the morning to dead by 7pm in the evening. My vet is very capable and had first hand experience of the parvo outbreak in the late seventies and also the smell of parvo is quite distinct.
I am also amazed by how many people are trying to hush the whole outbreak up for whatever reasons - I thought we were all supposed to be dog lovers and surely their health is more important that a bit of ribbon or some glory. I have tried to let as many people as possible know about this - not to scaremonger but just so that people can be on their guard and take extra precautions if they have young stock or a litter due and time after time have had responses ranging from being ignored to being called a liar and having my reputation rubbished.
For the record, I have managed to find out that there are cases in Fife, Dundee and Angus and North Cambridgeshire.
There is a super disinfectant called Virkon S that in a 1:100 mix deactivates the virus in under 10 minutes, it's made by Antec and is safe to use around your dogs and you can even mist it over them as the virus is also carried on their coats.

Thanks Broomie for clearing this up and I am glad you haven't kept it to yourself..  That is why I was asking the questions because I am in Fife also and I would what to know if I should take extra care.  . I think it is vital that people are honest to each other.  Very sorry to hear of your youngsters it must have been heart breaking.

I was only asking if they'd been tested as there are a number of cases with similiarities to Parvo, the smell, the blood, the illness everything but when these dogs have been tested it has not been parvo.

THere is definitely something going around very similiar but not the same.  It was just to check that they had been tested, not to call your vet and definitely not against you!

Receptionist in Kirkcaldy vet today assured my friend that they had heard of no Parvo in Fife?????????

Anne

I think I know of dogs in the Cambridgeshire side and they were tested and it was found not to be parvo, but a disease of a similiar strain!

It is worrying that there seems to be a disease mimicking the symptoms of parvo though.

thanks for the information broomie, I'm in Dundee and its always a bit worrying when you hear of local outbreaks.  where can I buy this disinfectant that you mention and i'll douse everything from the dog to the car to myself in it.  Sorry to hear about your loss, I couldn't imagine life without my dog so hope your doing ok.  Please continue to spread the word.  Do you have any idea what areas in Dundee are affected?

Having seen a dog die from Parvo in the early 80's I would not demean this disease. I was stating that if the previous poster that I was replying to had only been to the W & P show a couple of days prior to their dogs being ill, it was unlikely that that was where any illness came from. Parvo is a horrid disease, and one I would hate to see again. I live in Angus, so would hate for it to be near me and not know about it. My dogs are walked on farm land, so very rarely meet up with other dogs, but when they do it's usually at a dog show. We have no idea as to the health of these dogs, and can only hope that none of them are carrying parvo. ;(

I'm very glad this has been bought up!  I was due to go to a limited show at Carnoustie this weekend, but think I'll be giving it a miss!

Sarah.

Hi Sarah,

First I heard of this was when stewarding at Scottish Gundogs at the weekend !!!! :(   We'd already had our girls at W&PBA the weekend before - thank God they're fine and I haven't heard of anyone's dogs being poorly since.

So sorry to read about the poor dogs affected and thinking of their owners at this very sad time.

Thank goodness dog folks, in the main, are honest and thank God again we're in the West coast - to my knowledge there are no local reports of a problem here YET .

regards, Teri

Hi Teri,
We'd been to W&P too.  Luckily Dyl's OK.  We've had no reports up here yet, but apart from my lot getting it, I don't want to bring it back up here either!  Mine are homeopathically vaccinated, which I prefer, but don't want to take the risk (not for a couple of rosettes!!).
Thoughts are also with the people who have lost dogs.

Speak soon,
Sarah.

Firstly, I would like to thank many of you for your kind thoughts. They are greatly appreciated.
I fully understand that many of you are concerned about whether it is parvo that is going about but please do not lose sight of the fact that there is something highly contagious going around that is making dogs very ill and can cause death. I know of quite a few dogs in the Fife area that have been seriously ill, one young vaccinated dog from our ringcraft was in at the vet receiving intensive treatment for 6 days. the dog is fine now but the bill was £800. This happened 2 days after our October Match which was on the 5th. Needless to say the dog was fit as a fiddle at the match.
I lost my two on the 28th of October and only heard about this other dog afterwards when I was trying to put the word about.
I had 16 dogs in total and several are young dogs under a year old and they are all fine - a couple were a bit "out of sorts" but that was all. None of the adult dogs showed the slightest sign of anything being wrong whatsoever.
There is more info about Virkon S at www.antecint.co.uk/main/parvo.htm. Most agricultural merchants should stock it as it is widely used in farming, poultry and gamekeeping.
It is very useful, not only is it effective against all the major viruses but also E.coli 0157, Salmonella and Campylobacter, and various fungus. It's qiute expensive but a little goes a very long way and I would recommend mixing up a small sprayer full and keeping it handy to do shoes etc. whenever necessary.
If anybody wants more info please ask me and everyone please be extra vigilant. Thanks.

Broomie,

Really is a tragic loss. Do you mind if I ask, has your vet confirmed it is or was Parvo yet? was port mortons done or anything?

I haven't been to class all this month just to be safe.

When I was at my vets this morning I asked him about it and he said they still have had no confirmed cases of Parvo.

Just wondered if anything had been 100% confirmed.

Hi, just to say that i am also a member of the committee of Kirkcaldy and District CLub. I have been appauled by the response of certain members who would have quite happily swept this under the carpet. Dogs are supposed to be our main concern and as amay people as possible should be informed.Perhaps if more people had been honest in the first place you would not have lost your dogs!!

Hi I'm secrtary of two clubs in scotland. one limited show  Carluke DCS), last night and another in a fornight ( Larkhall). No-one has mentioned an form of parvo to us.

we nornal do take precautions  for any form of contingious diseases when showing ourselves( my lot see the garlic and cough lictus and know they're going to a show,) but not everyone is as careful.

these are supposed to be fun days out but how can people sit there without warnimg other exhibitors of the dangers  even if its just a rumour, as least we can take some action.

Many of our exhibiots were at Gundog breeds & W&PBA. Is a piece of cardboard more iportant than the welfare of the dog.

Remember that we you enter a show you sign a declaration stated you don't have a contigious disease. although  its not foolproof,  I think it need saying... if you dogs not well don't take it to the show-  i'd rather lose money on entry fees than the dog

Hello Senkrah.
I'm sorry to have to tell you this, but I notified Office Bearers in my club on the 28th of October. I phoned the vice president of my breed club shortly after this - she was out but I explained the situation to her husband, who was very concerned and said that his wife would phone me back when she got in............. I'm still waiting for that phone call.
On 4th Nov I sent an e mail to 48 fellow exhibitors in my main breed, a lot of whom know me personally, saying that there were cases of parvo in several counties of Scotland and to be extra vigilant. Not one of them has even bothered calling or e mailing me.
I also dug out my show dates diary intending to phone round Secretaries of clubs due to have shows but after the reaction that I got from the first one I phoned I was so disheartened I gave up. So please accept my apologies for not contacting you directly - I feel that I've really let you down.
As I've said in my previous posting, the important thing is that there is something going about that can kill young healthy dogs very quickly and this endless debate about whether it's parvo or not and where and how it's been contracted is not helping anybody. I did a search for Parvovirus on this site yesterday and was horrified to find out that there have been postings from various counties for the last few months!
So I understand exactly how you feel - I only found out when my little puppy was dying on the vet's table.

Hi Broomie

I'm terribly sorry to read that you have lost your 2 dogs, you must have been devastated especially as one was so young.  I didn't mean to offend you in any way by my posting.  The person that told me about the possible parvo cases in Fife also told me about vaccines being brought in from Southern Ireland and I just assumed she mean't that the 2 dogs that had died had been vaccinated with these vaccines.  I apologise to you if my posting has upset you in any way as that was not my intention.

I have to say though, I haven't been given the impression that anyone has been trying to hush things up.  If that were the case then how would I have been made aware of it, I don't even live in Fife and therefore attend no training classes in that area.  I think its important to remember that parvo is always around and we should always be careful whether we have heard of possible outbreaks or not.  I haven't heard of any outbreaks near me, but I have a young pup and I still sprayed my garden, house and car with parvocide before bringing her home and all feet get sprayed with a strong disinfectant before coming into my house.  Sometimes though you can do everything by the book and still be damn unlucky :-(  I am aware that there seems to be a number of bugs and viruses going around, one of which is similar to parvo.  I read this some months ago in one of the dog papers.

Hi Broomie, I'm so sorry about the ordeal you have been through with losing your dogs, and it was good of you to come on here and put things straight as to what happened.
I put a reply on here quite early on when my G.S.D. bitch was taken ill two days after being at the W&P Breeds show in Scotland. I hadn't heard anything about Parvo cases in Scotland or of these other bugs and virusses. She started being sick monday morning, but ok in the evening and tuesday morning, but by evening started throwing up again, and this continued through the night. I came across this posting about Parvo in Scotland by chance, but then started to panic, as it was saying about avoiding shows, and the show I had just been to. My middle bitch then became ill (she didn't go to Scotland)being sick and off her food, but hers only lasted one day. My youngest bitch Inka continued being sick, but by now it was bile as she had been starved. She did not have the runs at all, just sickness. I phoned my vet and explained what her symptoms were and she said it's probably a stomach bug and as long as she is drinking plenty, and has been starved, it will run it's course, but to bring her in if it continues. This continued and she was very depressed and no energy, so I arranged to take her in on the saturday. Friday night she suddenly picked up, was hungry, ate, kept it down, and has been perfectly fine since, so cancelled the visit to the vet. My dog, who is 9, had by now started with the same thing, off food and depressed, but he was ok whithin 48hrs. Inka was the one it hit the hardest. On the sunday tho, when all the dogs were back to their old selves, I noticed a big splat of blood in the garden which was obviously one of the dogs 'runs'. By the way they all had runs at the end of the illness, bright orange liquid.
but as I say they are all fine and happy now...touch wood, so I have no idea what they were suffering from. Even my partner has been very ill the last week with the same symptoms. Whether it's coincidence or connected I don't know.
Debbie

Hi Debbie
Many thanks for your kind thoughts, I was really worried when I saw your first posting and I'm so glad that all yours are fit and well again.

can pork fat off a joint of meat make a dog ill symptons like parvo

It won't cause him to run a temperature, though it might briefly make him vomit or give him the squits if he's not used to rich food. He would have to have eaten quite a lot though. After 24 hours I'd expect him to be pretty much back to normal.

This may be a silly question......but after reading this thread, I thought I'd ask anyway - just to be on the safe side. Can parvo virus be passed on from your shoes ? I work in Ayrshire and I noticed a sign up in my local vetinary clinic stating there was parvo virus in the area. Does anyone know ?

Not a silly question at all! According to Parvo FAQ, yes it can be brought in on your shoes.