I have taken my puppy to the vets and she informed me that even tho the rescue centre we got her from have given her her second vaccinations they only covered half the diseases.  They suggested we have the complete second vaccinations 2 weeks after the ones the rescue centre gave her.  This isnt a problem but wont a double vaccination make her poorly.  Has anyone ever heard of vaccinations only covering limited diseases?

LeanneK, I would check back with the rescue centre as I would have thought they would have made sure your puppy had all the vaccinations she needed.

I asked the vet today and they told me the stickers on her vacc card say she is not covered for Distemper or Herpes. So the second injection will have to be given again?????  I think I will ring the vets that Lilly went to originally.

Edited: Phoned original vet and Lilly has had her complete vaccinations.
7/10  Lepto 2 and PPI

24/10  Lepto 2 and DHPPI

This covers everything..... Just got to call my vet now and get them to explain where the misunderstanding is coming in.

I may be quite wrong here, but I think Distemper and Herpes injections are not included in the 'puppy injections', I think they are an 'extra' maybe your vet was trying to get some extra pennies if this is the case?

Distemper is definitely one of the regular puppy vax, and should definitely be given. It's herpes that isn't normally included.

Thanks JG, I couldn't remember if it was or the other that wasn't included, or none, or both!!

tut tut naughty vet lol

The second injection covers DHPPI which is Distemper    Herpes   Parvo and para influen (spelling?)

So it covers all the diseases.. either the vet has misunderstood the stickers or is trying to get £50 from me to revaccinate my puppy!! I do hope not as I would hate to have to look for another vet.

Saying that tho at my current vet I never see the same one twice I always seem to see youngsters and never see them again, maybe its time for a change anyway

The 'H' in this case is Hepatitis, not Herpes! ;)

The H is for HEPATITIS not Herpes :D

sorry thats me durrr Ive got all sorts of diseases going through my head.  Shes not vaccinated against herpes.

But she is agains the others so therefore fully vaccinated so the question still is why is my vet saying she isnt I wonder.

Perhaps your vet is getting confused because puppies normally get vaccinated twice against distemper and hepatitis but it would depend on how old the puppy was when vaccinated as older puppies -10 weeks or older - should only need it once.

I checked this myself with Intervet for my own puppy as the vet was insisting he still needed to be vaccinated twice against distemper and hepatitis even though he was 16 weeks old. 

I got a pup vaccinated at 16 weeks, had to have two sets GRRRRR

Hi Dill, I had better clarify what I was saying!

I have concerns about vaccination so wanted my puppy to have the minimum possible.  I contacted Intervet and they confirmed that for puppies 10 weeks or older, one dose was sufficient to give a puppy protection against distemper, hepatitis and parvo.  Parainfluenza protection is part of that first dose but a second dose is recommended for an optimum response.  As the parainfluenza vaccine isn't available separately (so I understand anyway), this means giving the distemper, hepatitis and parvo vaccine again even though it isn't necessary.  After researching and seeking advice, I decided not to repeat the vaccine.

Normally of course two vaccine doses for lepto would also be included with the above vaccines (so again needing two visits) but I didn't want this vaccination for my puppy as I had decided to treat him homeopathically for this.

Hope this explains things better. :-)

Remember that lepto is one of the diseases that, if your dog is unfortunate enough to catch it - and if you have rats nearby then its around - he can pass on to you and your family.

Only of course JG if you have contact with their urine & if memory serves me right the vaccine only protects against a couple of the strains of Lepto

Yes, but nursing a sick dog often involves contact with urine, and IMO avoiding even two strains is better than none - but that's for each person to decide for themselves.
:)

Hi Jeangenie,  Yes I was aware of that but decided not to go ahead with the lepto vac for the following reasons:

a)  it has the most reported side effects of all the vaccines and in fact American research now says it should not be given to puppies
b)  it doesn't appear to be very effective - it only protects against a couple of strains of lepto and only then for a pretty short period
c)  it doesn't stop a dog from getting the disease
d)  there is a homeopathic alternative (if you believe in it of course :-) but I am happy to give it)
e)  I believe the environment I live in is not high risk for lepto.  Rats are everywhere of course but there are no ponds, streams, farmland etc where my dogs are exercised

All anyone can do is to research and make your own decisions based on what you think is the best for your dog - that's what I did.  I will have to live with any consequences but then I would also have to if I had a vaccine damaged dog :-(.

The best we can all do is make an informed decision using all available information. Not everyone will come to the same conclusion, but at least it's a rational choice. :)

I agree wholeheartedly!

Ive decided to go ahead with the THIRD vaccination.  She recieved the first 2 before she was 10 weeks old.  If she did catch anything I would never forgive myself so shes off tomorrow to have the injection.

So she will have had 3 vaccinations which worries me re: side effects and when I asked the vet she said there would be no adverse affects of giving the second vaccine AGAIN.

Im not really trusting this vet as you may have guessed, I get the feeling shes a new vet feeling her way.  Lilly has been twice now and she hasnt listened to her heart or checked her ears or the normal routine puppy exams.......  Im going to ask tomorrow that she listens to her heart and checks her ears, but I dont feel I should have to be asking for routine checks especially when Im paying per visit.

Im then going to insist on seeing the more mature vet who I trust 100%, I know the new vets have to learn but Id rather it not be at my expense.

Leanne, I still feel the rescue centre would have ensured your dog had all the vaccinations necessary but in any event, no vet should vaccinate any dog without giving it a thorough health check first and ensuring that it is in excellent health.  Vaccinations only work if the dog's immune system is fighting fit.

I would definitely get another vet's opinion before having this third vaccination.  Alternatively, can't you get the vet who did the initial vaccinations to discuss it with your current vet?

Just to add that as far as I am aware, you can't get a PPI vaccine without it also including DH (distemper, hepatitis) so I can't see that your dog hasn't had his full vaccinations - may be just an error with the vaccination card stickers.  Good luck anyway, whatever you decide to do.

There is a Nobivac PPi product I would imagine this is what the rescue centre chose to give early protection to the puppy as their youngsters must be at considerable risk of infection. 
Leanne, perhaps the vet intends to do a physical check up once you move beyond the discussion stage :)

Hi Isabel, I don't see the logic in having a separate PPi vaccine when the DHPPI can be given as young as six weeks anyway (not saying I approve of that but Intervet say it can).  Why would a rescue centre opt for PPi rather than DHPPI?   Anyway, I've already said what I think and Leanne must do what she thinks is right.

Perhaps it was a cost issue.

Shes had

PPI on 7/10/05

then          

DHPPI on 25/10/05

on both occasions she had LEPTO 2

This to me is the full injections from what I can tell from the internet. 

Im going  to query it again tommorrow, the original vet is supposed to have got back to me but he hasnt I will ring him in the morning before our vet appointment.

I'm not really familiar with these early vacinnation regimes but Intervet seem to be saying on their web site that if it is given before 10 weeks they recommend repeating it

>Primary course vaccination:

>A single injection should establish active immunity to canine distemper, infectious canine hepatitis and disease caused by canine parvovirus infection in dogs of 10 weeks of age or older.

>Where earlier protection is required a first dose may be given to puppies from 6 weeks of age, but because maternally derived passive antibody can interfere with the response to vaccination a final dose at 10 weeks of age or older is generally recommended. For an optimal response to the parainfluenza component, animals should be vaccinated twice, 2-4 weeks apart with the final vaccination at 10 weeks of age or more.

Isabel thanks for taking the trouble to help me :-D  I too went on the intervet site and it seems shes best having the injection again as she had them early on and Im not 100% what went on before I had her so Im going to make sure shes totally covered. 

Were off now to see the vet :-)