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Topic Dog Boards / Breeding / pups (locked)
- By shuggler [gb] Date 25.10.05 23:15 UTC
Hi i have a three year old bitch and looking to breed off her. can anyone please help? and before people jump down my throat this is not for the sake of making money.hopefully by having pups this will calm my bitch down a bit.!
- By Goldmali Date 25.10.05 23:20 UTC
I don't know about numbers (not my breed) but trying to calm the bitch down is still not a good enough reason to breed a litter....and there is nothing to say that it will happen.
- By Brainless [gb] Date 29.10.05 14:13 UTC
Have to agree with you there, my six year old is still the same 'bull in a china shop' she ever was (takes after her Dad it seems) yet her daughter of two and her Mum at 8 are most ladylike and sensible.
- By liberty Date 25.10.05 23:22 UTC
From what I understand, your bitch having a litter will not calm her down, this comes with age ;)  Am still growing up myself at 40 something :rolleyes:  There also seem to be anawful lot of staffie pups and crosses around right now, so it seems a shame to add to their number. Just my opinion of course :D
- By Phoebe [gb] Date 26.10.05 01:51 UTC
That's an even more stupid reason for being in it for the money. Having puppies doesn't make a bitch any more sensible than they were before. I know several bitches who have had puppies in their younger life and are STILL totally crackers (in a nice way) despite being 10 plus.

If she's that bad, you should look into giving her more mental stimulation and making sure her diet isn't too high in protein/fat/sugars/colourings. Plus, why would you want to breed her and risk passing on whatever unnaceptable temperament trait you're trying to breed our of her on to her puppies?

Just think about it logically before you start falling for old wives tales.
- By Dawn-R Date 26.10.05 07:21 UTC
Hi shuggler, you don't mention her health screening, so I'll just say please have her hip scored eye tested and L2 HGA status done before you decide whether or not to go through with this idea.

Dawn R.
- By Brainless [gb] Date 29.10.05 14:15 UTC
Here is a breed club site where the Health Issues are explained:

http://www.eastangliansbtclub.co.uk/health%20issues.html
- By Staffie lover [gb] Date 26.10.05 20:24 UTC
so if your bitch is mad, what would happen if she has 9 pups (average is 6/7) and all of them are like her off the wall?  do u think you can find that many nice ppl that don't mind having a dog that is mad?
and do u think that you can cope with/have the room for maybe the whole litter back at 1year plus as they have not calmed down?
- By shuggler [gb] Date 27.10.05 18:14 UTC
Thanks for youre responses,she will be only bred with another pedigree dog.I will take all your opinions into consideration.And by the way she is not off the wall just a little hyper!
- By Moonmaiden Date 27.10.05 18:31 UTC

> and before people jump down my throat this is not for the sake of making money.hopefully by having pups this will calm my bitch down a bit.! <


I have news for you it won't calm her down at all & sorry it's totally the wrong reason to breed from a bitch. I speak from experience however my bitch's litter was planned via the pedigrees of dog & bitch & the puppies were prebooked before conception. The mother was as silly after the puppies as she was before, her puppies were far better examples of the breed than she was as we chose a dog who consistantly produced quality puppies to all his bitches
- By happyclappy [gb] Date 29.10.05 10:45 UTC
Get her bred,I would.As for how many pups will she have,the more the merrier.think of the holiday you could have out of all that money
- By Dawn-R Date 29.10.05 11:38 UTC
:rolleyes:

Dawn R.
- By charlie72 [gb] Date 06.11.05 16:41 UTC
This link is about Vislas but the principle is the same..

http://home.wi.rr.com/cwvc/shouldibreed.html
- By JenP Date 06.11.05 19:36 UTC
I have never breed a litter, and have no experience in this area, but I suspect this idea of having a litter to calm a dog down is as much of an old wives tale as it was suggested to calm a mare down. 
Many years ago when I was bringing on a 'challenging' chestnut mare, I lost count of the number of times I was told that she would be fine once she was put in foal :(  She turned into a fantastic mare, consistently winning under rules show jumping, at local events and cross country and was a fantastic hunter.  She never had a foal, it was simply lots of training and allowing her to mature.

I'm sorry if this sounds harsh, but in a breed that is literally overflowing in rescues, the idea that anyone can breed a litter in order to help their dogs behaviour is not just irresponsible, it is also selfish. There are so many staffies already in rescue - by bringing another litter into the world, you will either directly or indirectly be affecting the situation.  And given that you appear to be having problems with her due to her temperament, do you really think it's a good idea to bring more pups in the world with that temperament?

There may be a number of reasons why she is hyper, from immaturity, training, diet, health and simply character - and there are some very knowledgeable people on this board, who I'm sure will be more than willing to help with any behaviour problems you may be experiencing, but please explore these areas rather than assuming a litter of pups will be the answer.  And if you think it's ok because you have a number of people waiting for a staffy, please point them in the direction of your local rescue - there will be plenty there who they can give a home to and in doing so they may be saving their lives.
- By Amy stokes [gb] Date 10.11.05 09:27 UTC
My bitch had 9 pups on th 19th Obctober, so there just over 3weeks old, she has calmed down loads throughout the pregnancy and now we are hoping it continues after they have all gone to gr8 homes! But then again i am quite sad as she has lost her hypo side and wont play much now shes boring ha ha....but maybe when her hormones are back to normal she will prob turn back into her naughty hypo self !!Good luck tho as they are hard work! and make sure ur prepared for every eventuality
- By charlie72 [gb] Date 10.11.05 09:49 UTC
Hormonal changes and lack of enery is proberbly why she is calm at the moment.Most females return to normal after they have recovered ;)
- By Liisa [gb] Date 10.11.05 10:56 UTC
she may also be tired,I know when I am tired I am calm.... having a litter does NOT calm them down, my girl had a litter in Jan 04 and she is now 5 and still like a puppy, if anything she is more energetic, may I suggest exercising your dog more if she is hyper or look at changing her diet, defo do not bring another litter of pups into the world.  Why not try your vet for advice?
- By Phoebe [gb] Date 10.11.05 12:08 UTC
Tired, I'd be flaked out if I had nine kids to look after too! It's quite ironic that the people who breed a litter to calm their hyper staffie bitch down because presumably it's hard work looking after a hyper dog will have a litter of hyper puppies pooing and chewing but a calm bitch that they wanted, then just as they've got rid of the pups, the bitch will be back ot her normal self.

I only wish they'd listen in the first place and not bring another litter of puppies destined for the dog pound into being. But what do they care as they won't have to deal with that heartbreaking sight - out of sight out of mind.
Topic Dog Boards / Breeding / pups (locked)

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