Hi Guys,

Firstly let me give you a quick update on Deon my rescue rottweiler, Everything is great he has settled in a treat and is no longer nervous! he bounds around the house like he has no cares in the world, he now attends puppy training classes although he is now about 15 months and is by far the biggest dog there!! :) He has become good friends with a little yorkie dog and they cause trouble together and love meeting at the classes. The other day we were having a toy fight and we were running about like little kids and i am 23!! i turned my back and he hit me with his paw right on my bum i just rolled aroung laughing and he licked my face it was so cute!! :)

Anyway now onto my question,

While i was out walking deon we saw a lady with a rottweiler bitch and she fell in love with deon and asked if i wanted to breed him, i said not really because he is a rescue dog and has no papers. she just said ok and we went our seperate ways. Well now evrytime time i see her she asks me again. She says she doesnt want to sell the puppies buts wants another for herself, and this got me thinking i am in my final year of my degree and soon will be setting up my new home with my girlfriend and we both love deon to death but so does my mum who lives alone, now my mum couldnt bear it if i took deon away and i also moved out so i agreed to let her keep him, which means i will be looking for another puppy and i would love it to be deons, Now hear comes my dillema deon is not registered and has no papers but the female has, deon has been fully health checked and is in tip top condition thankfully :) Would i be such a bad person to let them breed, if we agreed that none of the puppies will be sold for any gain? i would be willing to get deon hip-scored to make sure all the puppies would be healthy.

Any help would be appreciated,and i am sorry about the length of the post! :)

Breeding is not something that should, be entered into lightly.  The fact that the lady wants to use an untested dog of unknown bloodlines says it all really, most irresponsible.

It is one reason that your boy found himself in rescue rather than back with his breeder when he needed a home.

This link will make things clearer, as will the first post on the breed9ng board.

http://www.dog-play.com/breedercomparison.htm

Frankly if the lady simply wnats a pup for company for her bitch it will be cheaper for her to buy one, as doing things properly is expensive.  Also if she likes her bitch she chould go back to her breeder who obviously produces good ones.

The fact that you've asked this shows that in your heart you know it would be a huge mistake.

1) You have no idea of the health status of Deon's ancestors.
2) Was Deon rehomed on the basis that he wasn't to be bred from?
3) If you have a puppy and the bitch owner has another, what will the two of you do with the possible other 10 puppies in the litter?

As you have no idea of Deon's background, I wouldn't do it if he was my dog. So you will probably have homes for 3 puppies, but an average rottweiller litter is larger than that - what if the bitch has 8 puppies? And if you plan on not making any financial gain from the puppies, that means they will be given away and god knows, you struggle finding responsible homes for some dogs even in the owners pay hundreds for them like they probably did for Deon. I personally think the woman is just looking for a cheap stud dog and probably hasn't done any of the health tests you should do on rottweillers before breeding. with all due respect to Deon, if she had, she wouldn't be looking at using a rescue dog!

You know how wonderful Dion is and he's a rescue dog. Instead o being part of maybe landing some poor rottweillers in Dion's position before ou got him, why don't you try to persuade the woman to adopt a rescue rottie (hopefully a neutered one so she doesn' decide to breed). And how about if you're leaving Deon with your mum, you rescue another?

You say you got Deon from a rescue. Good on you. Now think back when you went to that rescue. How your heart dropped at looking at the unwanted dogs needing a loving home.
As Brainless says, you don't know the history of Deons ancestors so know of no health problems.
This woman has one thing in mind, money. To breed from an unknown dog gives no thought to the health of the offspring. Considerate breeders just wouldn't do this.
I was lucky, I admit I got my first pup (bitch) from a breeder of high standing within the breed. I would of loved to have a litter and kept a pup. But that alone was for the wrong reason. What about the rest of the litter (assuming all health checks, hipscores etc were done)
I went back three years later and got a dog pup from the same breeder. She has over 20 years in the breed. He is closely related to my first dog and i'm more than happy than that.
May I suggest you look at going back to the rescue, contacting the rotti rescue or breed society. You've already given Deon what sounds a very loving happy home. Theres more out there looking for the same.
If you see this woman again, please please tell her a firm no, you're not adding to the already huge volume of unwanted dogs.

To add to everybody else's excellent points, all of which I agree with -has the lady considered the HUGE amount of money it would cost her to breed a litter,especially if she will not get a single penny back? And what about the issue of tail docking? Some people only want a rottweiler with a tail, some only one without, and if the pups are to be docked she would need to join the CDB and be put in touch with a vet willing to do it.

So that's another couple of points to bear in mind.

I'm not going to be too hard on you as I know that money and ill breeding is not in your heart.  I can see where yourself and the lady is coming from, you are both looking at the dogs you have, adore them and want another just like it, I think we all do that with our own dogs.  And think that we would like another fantastic dog from their own loins.  But you know it makes sense not to do it.  All the above reasons!!!! Raising puppies is hard work with many complictions, and think of where the puppies may end up 3 years down the line.

Both of you should go to a reputable breeder, get a KC pup that is already born into this world with good bloodlines and believe me you will love it just the same.

I'm glad that you both adore your dogs, but you know it is not the right thing to do.  LOL.