We have recently bought a siberian husky pup now 9 weeks old. We bought her at a reasonable price as she wasnt kc registered this was because her parents wernt registered. I havnt seen her parents but i did see two huskys from the same family. I am 99% sure she is all husky but there is still the 1% that im not sure about.....are there any tell tale signs that would ut my mind at rest.

Firstly,i wouldn't have brought a pup if you didn't see the mother,and secondly this is why kc reg is important.
Sorry to say but you have no guarentee that you have a siberian husky.

Dont get me wrong i dont care in the least if she isnt a full husky she will be loved and cared for none the less if she is a cross breed.
My friend bought her brother and they do look exactly like a husky i just wondered if there were any tell tale signs i could look out for.

There aren't really any 'signs' you could look for I know gsdxHusky and some of them looked pedigree.
Have you any pics??
As you say it doesn't really matter if she is to be a pet.

No pictures at the moment as i have just come to take some and the battery is flat on digital camera (as usual) will get some sorted.
Im not too worried now as i have been looking at some pics on websites of other huskies and they are not all the same and i did actually find one that is exactly like mine, so feeling better now and as i look at her bright blue eyes im thinking she was worth the £500 we paid for her lol

You paid HOW MUCH for an unregistered puppy?????????????????  Goodness me, that's not reasonable at all!

Well how much would you have expected to pay. The KC registered sibes were £1000 plus and as we didnt intend to show her anyway i thought it was a reasonable price. Surely the family we bought her from wouldnt have kept in touch with us if she wasnt pure bred.

Not my breed but from the quick look that I've done on the net, kennel club registered and show winning parents who are eye tested and hip scored, a pet puppy looks like about £500-£550.

I would be even more worried about no health testing than I would be about the registrations! :)  I'm glad that you've got your puppy insured!

Maybe i have paid more for her than she is worth, but when i checked the prices of them months ago a few of them were more than £600. I suppose it depends on the breeder. Not to worry anyway as i said she is a family pet who is well loved and cared for and as we didnt intend to show her it doesnt matter the only problem i can see is if we decided to breed from her

Where so you live to be paying that for a KC Sibe???????
Where I ma it's int he region of £650-£800
I wouldn't have paid anywhere near that for unregistered.
At the minute they are giving them away up here. Well not really but for what they are asking they may as well.

I live in in wolverhampton d4wn and when we were enquiring about buying a siberian that was the prices we were given, so naturally as i said before i thought we were getting her fairly cheap.

Out of interst were those prices quoted to you by the breed club or mambers?

No they weren't. We have a local paper called bargain pages and it was someone selling them in there, but out of interest i have just had a look in this weeks and there is someone selling one for £400 but it didnt say how old the pup was or if it was registered and also there was only the one pup.

It is a topic I disagree with with many about advertising in the local papers and free ads. 

Some breeders feel no decent breeder woudl 1) Need to advertise in them, and 2)Only puppy farmers and those breeding off their pets without much knowledge would do so, as the ads often attract the wrong kind of potential owner.

I have in the past advertised in the local paper when I have had the odd pup not spoken for (though rarely found it particularly effective as it is a minority breed).  Have in fact had 3 really excellent homes from this, even though one of the owners had actually contacted me a year earlier, and the other had once seen me with my dogs.

My argument is that those people looking for a pet who don't know where to start will look in the local paper, and if only Puppy Farmers, Commercial breeders and Joe Bloggs who really doesn't know enough to breed, advertise here then that is where the public will get their pet from.

Now if good breeders put carefully worded adverts in for their breed stressing Health tests, Bloodlines, and sensible average price, it will make people looking there think twice about the unregistered untested poorly bred litters offered by the rest??????

Jackie,

We get them in the papers up here at around £150 for an older pup. Say upto 1yr.
I had Huskies for years but once they became the 'in' thing I woldn't breed another litter. I only ever had three litters from my bitch. I had all my Sibes neutered because I didn't want all and sundry coming to buy pups just because they 'had seen a friends'.
I'm not saying this is what you've doen but that was how it was then. About 7/8 yrs ago.
Unregistered pups can go anywhere from £200-£350.

I suspect those are the pups that have stopped being cute and are starting into the mega destruction they are known for if not stimulsted/supervised enough. :(

To be honest with you i dont know anyone else who has a husky, apart from my friend who bought hers from the same fella we did a day later lol. It seems as though we have been ripped off with the price, but thats my own fault for not checking with breeders first. We learn by our mistakes lol. I just hope she is going to be worth the money we paid for her but to be honest i think she will be. Mnd you at 9 weeks i can see a change in her already and i think some dog training is in order so if anyone can advise me of any in the wolverhampton area i would be very grateful.

What do you think would have helped you and your friend not to have made this mistake, obviously the information needed to make a good choice of breeder is available, but obviously not getting to those who need it, the potential new puppy/dog owner????

As I said this is why I wouldn't breed another litter.
The poor pups don't know what's hit them when they are re-homed.
A lot of people get the 'in' breed because it looks good, not saying this is the case with the poster, without looking into the breed.
As any Sibe owner knows they are fantastic dogs but it takes a lot of time and patience to make a good pet out of one.
My lot didn't half way grow up until they were 5yrs old. Then they were still hard work.
Then all dogs can be destructive if not stimulated/supervised enough can't they.

Good news i took nakita for her final injections and chip today. i asked the vet if she thought she was a full pedigree and she said she would be most surprised if she wasnt, which made me feel a whole lot better. She advised me to get obedience lessons as they are very energetic and stubborn dogs, which i am already finding out for myself. Just one thing is worrying me at the moment i understand that i have to let her know her place in the family and slowly she is realising this, but i have a 2 year old how do i let nakita know that my daughter has a place higher up in the family than her.any advice?

I dont suppose either of the parents were health tested were they?

I dont know to be honest. I took her for her first set of injections a fortnight ago and the vet checked her over and gave her a clean bill of health i also sorted some inurance out for her and she is being chipped this week

KC registered sibe pups are usually £500 to £600 from a reputable breeder. Paying more doesn't necessarily indicate you will be getting a better quality pup.

It is quite possible that the parents aren't registered as they have breeding restrictions on their parents which probably means they haven't been hipscored and eye tested.

I agree with you but having one that isnt KC registered doesnt mean they are worth any less to the owners.
All i was asking was there any way i could tell if she wasnt a ful pedigree now i feel as though i have to defend myself for buying a dog with no papers.

>>having one that isnt KC registered doesnt mean they are worth any less to the owners.

That is true :)
And as a pet im sure she's very much loved.
Concern is being shown that neither parents were health tested  or registered and therefore you may not have a healthy pup. I certainly hope that your girl does not develope any problems :)

One thing i will say is that given the fact that no health test have been done and your girl is not registered and you seem to have doubts as to her pedigree.... It definately would not be a good idea to breed from her.

I think this maybe true as i know i would be reluctant to sell them and would end up with enough huskies to pull the coach my husband drives lol.

LOl and a completely wrecked home too :D

As long as you are aware, Jackie, that any puppies that she might have cannot be registered with the Kennel Club, so if you did want to breed, I would advise you to have this little bitch spayed, between 2nd & 3rd seasons, and buy another, KC registered bitch from a breeder who would support you in any future breeding plans.

Of course, I may well be jumping the gun here :)

Margot

You are jumping the gun lol I have 4 children aged 18, 16, 10 and 2 1/2 and also a 4 yr old jack russell, so i wasnt honestly thinking of breeding her not enough room and definately not enough energy as i have read up on these dogs before we bought her and i realise how energetic and time consuming they can be. My main reason for worrying was that i know how beautiful these dogs are when they have reached maturity and also how different they can look from puppies to adult dogs also as i know the temperament of a husky if she is a cross breed i dont know what she was crossed with and therefore dont know the temperament.... i think i have explained that properly lol

I agree, it doesn't matter how much you pay for your pup you still love them just as much whether you pay £50 or £500. I'm just trying to get across that there are people out there just trying to get as much as they can for their pups and don't care about the health issues or informing people about the breed.

I know when we bought our first husky we weren't concerned about it being KC registered - we just wanted a pet and it didn't seem important that it was registered. At that time there weren't as many people breeding unreg sibes as there are now so we luckily got in touch with the SHCGB and started to understand why registration is important.

To be honest with you i didnt realise until we bought nakita and i started reading about huskies on the web what KC registering was. Naive i know, but as i only had a jack russell before then i had no need to know about KC, and i realise now that maybe we should have had a registered husky but there you go, we bought her and i wouldnt swap her for the world and yes i would buy a registered one if i decided  to breed them. But not for a few years yet lol. I am surprised at the way she can wake from a deep sleep and suddenly be so full of energy and then when she has worn herself out its like someone has flicked a switch and she is out like a light again.

hi jackie,

unfortunatly you have been conned by what sounds like puppy farmers to me. i know you will love your dog and that she is very special to you and we all start somewhere when getting what we think are pedigree dogs. reputable husky breeders would NOT advertise in the papers and the going rate for top quality dogs is between £550 - £800 roughly with the £800 price tag being a tad high in my opinion.

what worries me more than the the fact that she is not kc reg (and also the parents have more than likely not had the appropriate health tests done!) is that you probably got no advice about the breed in general. did you do any research into the breed before getting your puppy???

huskies have various traits that may or may not get you and your dog in bother, like not getting off the lead and their very high prey drive to name a few!

if you need any help or advice please contact me through my email or get in touch with the breed clubs.
scottish siberian husky club or siberian husky club of great britain.

where abouts are you??? there are husky owners all over who would be more than happy to chat or maybe even meet up.

hope you enjoy your little girl..... they dont stay small for long.

If you dont know then chances are they havent been hip scored or eye tested :( But well done for getting pet insurance, hopefully your pup is fit and healthy and you wont ever need it. :)

I suggest you read this and maybe you will understand (and see where people are coming from) that even for a pet puppy breeding for the right reasons, and therefore why health testing and registering the pups is important:

http://www.dog-play.com/breedercomparison.htm

Otherwise you may as well ahve gone to the dogs home and got a pup from there in need of a good home rather than line the pockets od comeone exploiting the breed.

hi there jackie36....good luck with your pup.
i myself have 2 huskies...a boy and a girl...........the boy is registered but the girl isnt.
As long as the vet thinks she is ok i wouldnt worry.
This breed are a beautiful breed and im sure you will soon become so fond of them that you will get another!!!!
Anyway where did you buy her from? and has she got papers?
if you fancy a chat or need any advice then please feel free to drop me a line...my details are in my profile...just click on my name.
by the way i am female

I have 3 Sibes. Sorry but Ive never heared of a Sibe costing over a £1000. Whan I had a litter I sold them for £550.

sharon have you got any pics of your dogs???????/

nightshadow i tried emailing you but for some reason it wouldnt send to u. Are u on msn at all

hi jackie...yeah im on msn    hunichol@aol.cm