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what should a vet do to bring him out of shock???

It would depend on the cause. Was the dog still conscious? If not then he'd make sure the dog was still breathing and stil had a pulse. If due to blood loss then fluids would be given intravenously. The dog would also be kept warm.
He was muzzled and went into stress and shock because of it and threw up outside in carpark. which dogs induce vomiting when stressed ect, so just wanted to know when he was taken back in what should have the vet done.
By jas
Date 14.10.05 14:04 UTC
If he was just vomited, that's not clinical shock and I'd expect the vet to suggest you take the muzzle off and take him home. What did your vet do?
No he ended up with a gastric opp because of it.
The vet put the muzzle on him and that sent him into shock not me. He only went in there to have his ears checked, was a french or italian vet, not my normal one.
My dog is only 5 months old.

What were the symptoms of his 'shock'? You see, 'shock' is a clinical term used when the blood pressure drops dramatically - usually stress
raises blood pressure.
when i went back in he just touched his tummy and said if he is no better in the morning bring him back and he would give him a jab, ended back there 15 mins later and was admitted because of low pluse and still vomiting blood.
By jas
Date 14.10.05 15:10 UTC
Sorry he had to have an op but there must have been something else going on. Just putting a muzzle on may have stressed him, but it wouldn't put him into shock and wouldn't cause him to vomit blood.

There would have to be something seriously wrong to make him vomit blood - no animal can do that at will. The surprise (I won't say shock because that would be a confusing term) and distress of wearing a muzzle couldn't possibly cause that.
You say you took him to have his ears checked - had he been off-colour at all in the past few days?
I took him to the vets to have his ears checked, the vet went straight to his ears, no fussing or reasureing him and because he wriggled he put a muzzle on him and got a nurse to hold him down on her lap until he was quiet, which he also peeded all over her lap. I under stand that they have too protect themselfs, I took him out then and in the waiting room he sat there lifeless and panting, by the time i got him to the carpark he vomited, which they will do under stress. the opp was because he had 2 chicken wings for breakfast and they came up the wrong because of the induced vomiting which bruised his belly ect. went back in after calling the nurse from carpark and he told me to take him home and if no better by morning bring him back and will give him a jab in the morning.I took a lifless puppy home who had 20 mins earlier been bouncing around the surgery, then had to take him back 15 mins later because he was so weak, lifless and still vomiting. then was admitted.
no not off colour, just shaking his head, so i new it was ears, i have had other dogs and have another one so i new what it was, he had an infection before and i think it flared up again.
By jas
Date 14.10.05 15:34 UTC
Well that's a good demonstration of the danger of chicken wings. It sounds as if the bones tore his pylorus or oesophagus on the way up.
I am not commenting on chicken wings cos it would start an argument on here lol.
I wouldnt like it if i was held down so tightly until i was quiet, but saying that it wouldnt work on me :)
Cos i cant keep quiet for long lol
But what i was saying was it wouldnt have happened if they hadnt have done that to him.
Now he has a phobia of the vets, my normal vets are great, always go down to there level, and reasure them, and show them the instruments they would use before they touched him.
I have been with the same vets years and never any problems.
By jas
Date 14.10.05 15:56 UTC
I get you now, but he could have vomited for any reason and the result would have been the same.
I suppose vets differ in the amount of restraint they use, and it depends on what they have to do - using an otoscope to look in the ears of a wriggling dog can't be easy. That said my own vets have never restrained or muzzled my own dogs for examination and even X-ray them without sedation.

As jas says, he could have vomited in the car and the result would have been the same. I suggest you start taking him into the vets' waiting room, giving him a titbit and coming straight out again. Practice doing this several times (vets are usually happy to co-operate) and he'll start to regain his confidence. Good luck1
Thanks both.
The muzzel was one of those big black ones and if you no shar-pei they have a well muzzled face, so it was squashed on.
He has been to another vet as he had a reaction to the medication and ended up with sore eyes, he was totaly good as gold with him. so maybe phobia was just to that incident and treatment after.
Poor little sod has been through the mill :(
By jas
Date 14.10.05 16:19 UTC
Glad he was OK with the other vet. I do think that dogs remember unpleasant experiences and can associate them with individual people. I had one bitch who had a rather rough PV from one vet (he has short, thick fingers) when she was close to whelping. Ever after that she still went tail wagging into the vets' surgery but as soon as as she heard that particular vet speak, even from the waiting room, she headed for the door. :)
lol :)
sorry for the moaning about my dog, but had to get it off my chest and what better place than CHAMP DOGS.
Mine you the vets didnt come off any better too lol.
When i went back to get his stitches checked the 2 receptionsists and my usual vet made a point of asking me how he was, I was even taken in a room to air my greviences. OOPs spelling a bit s--t today lol.
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