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Topic Dog Boards / General / Odd mixes!
- By Cain [gb] Date 09.10.05 15:12 UTC
This is more a question of curiousity than anything else, but would it be possible for a male Great Dane and a Poodle to mate, and for the bitch Poodle to have pups?  The obvious answer, since they ARE both dogs would be "yes", but surely if the pups growing in the Poodles womb are too large for the womb, that could kill the Poodle..?

What is the oddest cross that you have ever seen..?

I wonder what a Bull Terrier and an Alsation would come out like?  Anyone care to speculate - :)
- By me_n_pero [gb] Date 09.10.05 15:22 UTC
i saw a rottweiler cross dacshund once on the paul o grady show LOL!! was an amazing looking dog
- By Cain [gb] Date 09.10.05 15:28 UTC
Describe it?  What was the more dominant charachteristics.  Wonder if there is a site with pix of weird dog mixes..?
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 09.10.05 15:57 UTC
I hope there isn't such a site. :( It would only encourage irresponsible idiots to risk dogs' lives. :mad:
- By Cain [gb] Date 09.10.05 16:01 UTC
The post was really meant as light hearted more than anything else :)

And hey, what about a Labrapoodle?  I know for a fact that this HAS been done..?

Besides, are ALL pedigrees not just crossbreeds anyway, I mean how many times was a Daschund bred to look the way that it does?  Otherwise all dogs would most likely resemble wolfs, still..?
- By MollMoo Date 09.10.05 16:04 UTC
I know a Stafford x German Shepard and what a delightful dog she is too :)
- By Cain [gb] Date 09.10.05 16:07 UTC
What does it look more like?
- By LeanneK [gb] Date 09.10.05 16:12 UTC
Our local dogs home had what looked like a basset x rottie they called him sausage.  He had the body of a basset and the head, tail and colouring of a rottie.
- By liberty Date 09.10.05 16:24 UTC
I'm sure you mean it as a light-hearted post Cain, but you'd be surprised at the daft ideas you can end up giving people by posts such as this. All be it unintentionaly ;)

edited to add: You only have to look on the posts here for 'breeds' such as cockapoos, Labradoodles, Bull-shitz  to name just a few :(
- By me_n_pero [gb] Date 09.10.05 22:27 UTC
it was the size (sort of) a rottie, with a looong stomach and floppy ears and a pointy nose
- By Bluebell [gb] Date 09.10.05 16:24 UTC
A friend has a dogue x rottie. A lovley lad. and there is a springer x collie round here, now that is ful of beans!
- By ShaynLola Date 09.10.05 16:53 UTC
I have a Chow X Rottie (well, we're 90% sure daddy was a Rottie) and a handsome boy he is too (but I maight be biased ;) )
- By Goldmali Date 09.10.05 16:51 UTC
Well it would surely depend on which size of Poodle......... I remember a newspaper article from a few years ago about a JR bitch that had an (ACCIDENTAL) litter of pups -one pup only- to a Rottie. The pup was bigger than the mum at 8 weeks.Needless to say she did need a c-section, I'd have imagined that would be the major concern.
- By Anwen [gb] Date 09.10.05 17:28 UTC
Some friends of ours have 2 Spikitas :eek:  Mum is a liver & white working Springer, Dad a very big Akita, basically Black & Tan . She lost the 1st enormous pup, but gave birth to the other 7 :eek: pups with no problem :D . The pups were all B & W  & look like Pointer Xs :confused:
- By munsters4ever [in] Date 09.10.05 18:43 UTC
People that used to live next to us had a german shepherd cross daschund. It looked like a shepherd but had very small legs which were very queen anne . I often wondered what happened to it as I though it was too heavy for those leg as a pup so ggodness know what would have happended ro it in old age. It came from th elocal rescue who had taken in the mum and dad as well.
- By Cain [gb] Date 09.10.05 19:53 UTC
Given that the only TRUE breed of canine would be something like a wolf or dingo, and given that ALL pedigrees were at one time or another X breeds (for instance, my Bull Terrier was a mix from the now extinct English Terrier and Bulldog, plus some other blood mixed in, like Dalmatian), what would it take for the Kennel Club to formally recognise a new breed altogether..?
- By Whispersmum [gb] Date 09.10.05 19:59 UTC
A friend of mine has a Dalmation x Akita, she's lovely.
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 09.10.05 20:04 UTC
I believe you need to have several generations of dogs breeding true, with no more crossing. Obviously this would close your gene pool, so you'd need to start with a large number of unrelated litters in the first generation. Also you'd only breed from the ones who fitted your 'ideal' - so you'd need to have a written standard to work towards.
- By D4wn [gb] Date 09.10.05 20:27 UTC
That's Labradoodle. They were bred by the 'dogs for the blind' many years ago. They turned out to be a good dog for blind people with allergies. As far as I know they are still being used. There were two that lived next to me and they were very trainable. I am talking 14-15yrs ago.

My friend and I nearly ended up with Rottenburgers when my Rottie got to her Leongerger in heat. I didn't know she was in heat and thankfully it never happened. They would have been lovely but I would never do it on purpose. I told my friend that if her bitch were pregnant I would rather she terminate the litter.
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 09.10.05 20:30 UTC
The Guide Dogs Association trained a total of (I think) 3, many years ago. They never bred them, and haven't trained any more.
- By BorderCollieLvr [gb] Date 09.10.05 20:41 UTC
I've seen a GSD x Great dane crossed with a  dachshund(sp) it had to have its tail removed though as it was getting infected as it dragged on the floor, it had a weird half stick up ear and other one was floppy but its ears were weird compared to its head.
- By ponk [gb] Date 09.10.05 20:53 UTC
Ive fostered for years<dogs that is> and we had a litter of dobermanXboxers rung in.Well I kept the girl pup and she lived to be nearly 15years of age.She was quite simply canine perfection,and a true treasure.One of the other girls had a bassetXgerman shepherd in that looked just like a shepherd but had the legs of a bassett.Ive seen alot of odd crosses and obviously these were coming into rescue.French bulldogXBritish bulldog, French bulldogX Stafford,PekeXPug and so it goes on.
- By Brainless [gb] Date 09.10.05 20:59 UTC
I have seen black and white photos of a Boxer Cross Elkhound in one of our old club Journals.  It looked a lot like a Malinois.  Sshort coated and classic black mask, cheek spots and harness markings like Elkhounds and GSD have.  No idea what the tail did as it was sitting in the photos.
- By D4wn [gb] Date 09.10.05 20:44 UTC
I thought they had a few litters??????????
The two by me were fron one of the first litters. They were too tall to be used.
I may be mistaken as I recall a few idiots decided to breed labradoodles at that time.
They were very pretty dogs tho' and ever so obedient.
I am talking a heck of a long time ago.
- By perrodeagua [gb] Date 09.10.05 20:48 UTC
It didn't work out and they did stop breeding them some time ago I believe.  You can't tell what coat they are going to have and even then it doesn't mean that the Poodle type coat will help people with allergies.  It's the dander not the coat that's the problem.
- By D4wn [gb] Date 09.10.05 20:52 UTC
Is it????????

I had Siberians and I was terrible with them but any short coat I'm fine with.
Long coats i.e: Rough Collies, Beardies etc and I'm fine.
Maybe it was the 'double' coat that did it????????????
I'm sticking to my Mastiffs now as I know I'm fine all year round with them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- By Whispersmum [gb] Date 09.10.05 20:55 UTC
I know of a guide dog who is retriever x lab so they are still using crosses.
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 09.10.05 21:12 UTC
Yes, they still use first crosses (they never breed from the crosses), but not labradoodles. The most successful cross for their purposes seems to be the labrador/golden cross.
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 09.10.05 21:13 UTC
A lady who works at the GDBA breeding centre posted:
"It is worth noting that the labradoodles were used many years ago & the breeding programme (& training too) has moved on since then."
- By tatty-ead [gb] Date 09.10.05 21:45 UTC
Hi, had a cocker / lab some years ago, she looked very similar to a N. S. Duck Toller, and very placid temprament. later had an English Pointer / Whippet, he was very pointer but smaller and lighter and more tucked up, was an adorable wimp who loved sunbathing and hated wet - carefully walked round puddles and hated it when GSD went straight thru and splashed. Daughter now has Pharaoh hound / Staff - refered to as the pharie. I must add that all three came from rescue and would never advocate deliberate cross breeding.
Chris
- By liberty Date 09.10.05 22:51 UTC
Thats an excellent point Chris, there are plenty of cross breeds in rscue needing loving homes, without some twit adding to the numbers :mad: We as a family owned an Airedale Poodle cross many years ago, lovely dog with the patience of satan lol

maybe if we had bred Poodales or even Airpoos I would not have to work for  living now ;)
- By Phoebe [gb] Date 09.10.05 23:11 UTC
Some of the most attractive crosses I've come across have usually involved a chow as one of the parents. I've know several lab x chows over the years who have varied from looking just like a smooth chow to more like a lab but with a plush coat and up and over tail. A schoolfriend had a greyhound x chow and she was nothing like either parent - looked more like a solid red coloured rough collie than anything but she had the most appealing face. And my friend in the USA used to have a shar-pei cross golden retriever who was lovely - he looked just like a goldie in the body and coat, but had a shar-pei head and ears and an up and over tail. His litter sister (she reared them for a rescue centre) looked identical to a shar-pei in every way.
- By Goldmali Date 09.10.05 23:31 UTC
As this thread seems to have moved on to a bit more general rare crossbeed talk, I have to (of coruse!) add that I have 2 "oops Maligolds"  (sounds better than Golinois LOL)-Golden Retriever x Malinois. ACCIDENT!!! People never EVER manage to guess what they are :) 4 of the pups were Brindle with black masks, 5 were black. The owners of the blacks are often told by "knowledgable" people that they have been conned as CLEARLY their dog is a Labrador cross, it cannot POSSIBLY be part Golden Retriever or Malinois...... My Brindles are often explained to me MUST be Greyhound crosses.

They're all different though -both in body and temeperament. Some have Golden bodies and Golden like heads. Some have more Malinois bodies. My bitch has a Golden body with a malinois like head. The dog moves like a Malinois, the bitch moves like a Golden.The dog has Golden eyes, the bitch has malinois eyes. (Colour and shape.) Some are very tall (my dog is a good few inches taller than his Golden dad, who isn't a small dog by any means), others smaller -another dog is a good 5 inches shorter than his brother. The only things they all have in common is that they all have ears that play aereoplanes, and they all have the malinois coat. My dog looks very much like a Dutch shepherd had it not been for the ears.

I think this accidental cross must have been very unique, until last year when somebody else had the exact same thing happen except the other way around -Golden mum and Mal dad instead. But rest assured, nobody is doing it on purpose. :) My accidental maligolds were all neutered.

I think they prove one thing -you can never be sure what a first cross will be like!!! None of them are anything like I would have imagined. Mine are quite wellknown in BSD circles and have been seen by many at shows etc, and people "in the know" take great delight in introducing them to friends and letting them play "guess the cross" game.
- By theemx [gb] Date 10.10.05 00:34 UTC
I once knew a Goldie x Samoyed... accidental litter, mum didnt fancy the other Samoyed at all and did a bunk to visit the Goldie next door!

Very very pretty pup, very pretty adult all fluffy pale gold fur, but hard work both to train and groom!

Em
- By liberty Date 10.10.05 00:52 UTC
Sorry if I missed something here, but are we encouraging cross breeds or what?? The puppy farmers must be burning the midnight oil, not to mention sparks coming off their pens :(
- By Cain [gb] Date 10.10.05 09:27 UTC
Personally, I don't see anything that has been mooted on here that probably has not been thought of or discussed by others, in the past.  Besides, you mention puppy farmers, but I doubt that some strange looking hybrid mongrel would have much commercial value.  Just my view..  :)
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 10.10.05 09:36 UTC
You'd be amazed at what some people will pay for a 'strange-looking hybrid mongrel', if they're told it's rare! :rolleyes: Fools and their money are soon parted.
- By Sarah Gorb [gb] Date 10.10.05 11:18 UTC
I saw a picture of a rottie x corgi and it was the most pathetic looking dog I have ever soon. It had the rottie head and corgi body and really did not look right at all. I am not against crossbreeds infact my last dog was collie X GSD, but the proportion was right but I am against people crossing breeds and giving them stupid names in an attempt to make money - in this instance the breed was called the 'Corgiweiller'.
- By shadbolts [gb] Date 10.10.05 09:50 UTC
Years ago a friend of mine had a GSD / greyhound cross from what I remember (this was about 30 years ago) the head had GSD features while the body was more greyhound.  He got the dog from a rescue centre where the mother (a GSD) had been bought as a stray, the pups were born soon after she arrived.

Steve
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