i have a 11 month old japanese akita, i recently got her from a friend that could no longer afford to take care of her and cuz of her beauty i accepted. she is very loveable and is a terrific pet who has brought much happiness and love to our home and family. she gets along extremely well with my 8 yr. old great dane and all 4 of my children along with the 4 birds i have and 2 rabbits and our cat, but anyhow i didn't accept this dog to breed her i accepted her as a pet. 6  days  b4 she was pos to go get spaded my boyfreind left the gate open and my baby got out, she was in heat and this is her 1st cycle. well the bad news is she was out for about 3 hrs. b4 she was finally picked up. we strongly believe from the amount of blood on her that she was able to get with another dog. problem is we don't know what dog or what breed and abouts in the town i live it was probaly a mutt. i'm not sure what to do like i said i didn't want her bred at all is there anyway of telling if she is pregnant with out any more trips to a vet? and if so and she is how do i go about getting rid of her pups not knowing what dog she was with. i don't mean by selling them i don't want to sell them to any1 but i want them to at least go to a good home to be well taken care of but yet i am afraid of what dog she may have bred with and don't know the temper or anything about this other dog. so what do i do? please give some opinions. i'm desperate!

Take her to the vet's - she can have a post-mating injection, which will mean that she won't have puppies.   Believe me, it will be far cheaper for her to have this injection than it will be for her to go through a pregnancy, and all that that would entail.    You can still arrange to have her spayed after this.

Edited to add - this is really the only sensible option for you :(

Regards
Margot

thank you  for your response right away. i have just called all the darn vets around here and some have heard of it and don't do them and say that it's more costly than to get her spaded and that there are to many risks and thats why they don't do them and something to do with all the forums involved (what ever that is) and some haven't heard of them, so now what? i don't want to put my baby through any trauma or pain or get her all depressed. so now what?

If the vets won't do the injection and she's booked in to be spayed, just go ahead. Most bitches don't even miss a meal and come out of the vets after being spayed like nothing's happened to them. The bitch won't know she's pregnant and being spayed is a lot less stress for such a young bitch than carrying a litter of puppies for 9 weeks and nursing them for another 8. And I'll tell you it's DEFINITELY going to be a lot less stress for you than having to find homes for as many as 12 puppies. You might not even be able to give them away and think where the poor babies might end up - bad homes, kicked about, in an animal shelter, put to sleep at a young age - it doesn't bear thinking about.

It really doesn't matter wether the dog that got to hr was a 'mutt' or another pedigree akita....she is tooooo young to have pups. Please take her for the post mate injection
Archer

as i said to another thank u so much for responding so fast. but they don't do them any where around here any other suggestions. what happens with her being so young?

As far as I know, it's possible to take her and get her spade as planned...especially if that's around the next couple of days. The fact that she MIGHT have JUST fertilized eggs in her is neither here nor there, they won't have developed and it's the same as giving them the injection, it just gets rid of the problem(sorry, don't mean to sound hard, but best got rid of, already enough mutts and she is FAR too young to support a litter of any type, it will ruin her physically) All the best, Dawn X

thank you so much, i hate the fact that i feel like i'm killing her puppys which is pretty much an abortion and i don't believe in them but i don't want to put her through any thing that will cause so much on her if she is pregnant i won't know for another 8 days when she goes in for the blood test at the vet. i was just hoping for another way to find out if she's pregnant so that i could save the money for when she gets spaded cuz of the fixed income i am on a month cuz of some dissabilties i have developed over the last 3 years and i know that if she is pregnant the surgery costs more than usual i also took on a cat 7 1/2 years ago that is diabetic so he costs a pretty penny every month as it is. i didn't take it as u soundin hard i appreciate the honesty and thank you

Babydoll - check with your local dog warden if there are any schemes in your area that do subsidised neutering. The Dogs Trust and other charities often do this for people on benefits and low incomes.

Don't beat yourself up about the moral issue of abortion. You will be potentially saving hundreds of unwanted dogs from a miserable, short existence by spaying your girl. There are around a hundred thousand unwanted dogs put to sleep in Britain alone every year. Which would you rather have that on your conscience? Neither obviously, but sometimes making a responsible decision weighed against what your morals tell you is damn hard.

Where do you live, babydoll?

Hi Babydoll. I'm guessing you are in the US? Please take your bitch  & have her injected as soon as possible. If, for some reason, that's not possible, have her spayed. Akitas can have very large litters & finding good homes for all the pups would be almost impossible. Good Luck.

I dont think babydoll is in the us because i thought the name babydoll was off big brothers Kemal he always said it.  Hi anyway babydoll you would be best to take her to another vet who does do the test even if it means you travelling they may get a home but for how long and it's really not worth the stress on the japanese akita there's no need for her to have a litter to make her go through it at such a young age.  My dogs have never got out when they've been in season i've always watched them like a hawk and i can't believe how many people come on this forum and use that.

Susan

wow thanks for the negative reply. and as far as it being an excuse i have a fenced in yard and i wasn't the 1 who left the damn gate open to begin with my door is always open for my dogs to come in and out as they want, so when she went out i didn't think anything of the gate being opened seeings how no1 is pos to use it. but he did use it and yes she got out. i didn't come on here for the middle school treatment!  i am above 30  and as far as my nick name it was given to me by my grandfather when i was a child ( who has been outta my life well over 10 years now) so thanks for the immature put down. also like i said i never wanted her breed and i don't believe in breeding any kind of animal i am just one of them people who think animals have the same emotions and feelins as we do and to sell their babys for money would be like selling my grandkids. all my babys are nuetered and spayed this is the 1st time i've even been around a dog in heat. if u ask me she should've been spaded long ago but no she wasn't she was crated in a tiny ass kennel for 14 hrs a day cuz her owner didn't have the time for her due to his work so she had no attention, no room and no training, this being another reason why i took her i felt it was wrong and she needed to be rescued from this kind of life for such a beautiful creation. so u can rank on me all u'd like as long as it makes u feel good but this is the last reply u'll receive from me so enjoy your self during it and have a nice life .

Hi Babydoll, there is no way of telling whether or not your bitch is in whelp until she's about 5 weeks. By that time of course it is too late for the mis-mate injection, and spaying is slightly more complicated by that stage. So we have given you all the other options, 1. Mis-mate injection, NOW, or spaying, NOW as you had previously planned. The choice is yours, we have advised as far as we can.

Good Luck,

Dawn R.

It's not making me feel better, i feel for the dog being so young and having to go through pregnancy and yes it does really get on my nerves.

Susan

Susantwenty?

The fact that the dog might be pregnant accidentally gets on ALL our nerves - but the OP has come on the board, asking for help/information.    It is far better to give it, non-judgmentally, when hopefully, the poster will take it on board.    

Of course we all feel angry - but it doesn't help the situation if the OP just gets angry and goes off in a huff - we stand far more chance of convincing people who come on and ASK for help, by advising them - if we antagonise them, off they go, to a "fluffier" board who finish up by saying "ooh, you can't kill your baby's babies, etc etc etc"

Margot

Babydoll,

Even if the bitch has been mated it is at least 20 days before the fertilised eggs implant in the uterus (Book of the Bitch) so before that the bitch isn't actually pregnant, having her spayed immediately would hardly be like her having an abortion ;) this is the time when breeders are on pins as even if the eggs are fertilised it doesn't guarantee a litter, the eggs are occasionally absorbed.  Unfortunately, in your case this is unlikely to happen ;) (s*ds law) as accidental matings are just as likely to result in a litter as planned ones :rolleyes: 

Things you have to consider

What if things go wrong and your bitch dies? - this does happen, good breeders are very selective about which bitches they breed as they know they are taking a big risk :)  this is also very costly, vets charge for treatment whether successful or not!!

What if things go wrong and she needs to have a ceasarian and you lose all the pups?  - I know someone who had this happen, they were lucky to keep the bitch (spayed) - same costs apply as above and more than a normal spay

What if things go wrong, you lose your lovely bitch and have 15 pups to handraise?  they will need feeding and cleaning every two hours at first night and day, many lose pups because of this, can you bear to become so attached to the babies and still lose them?

What if things go right but the pups are ill?? have cleft palettes?  need treatment?  can you bear the cost of this?

What if everything goes right and you have a lovely litter of puppies, but all those people who say they want one change their minds? (it happened recently ;) )   or you can't even give the pups away?  what will you do? put them in rescue? how many growing Akita crosses can you personally afford to feed?

You really need to think about all these things before you decide to go ahead with the litter, but at the end of the day the choice is yours and only you can make it.

Regards
Dill

Maybe Lokis mum but anyone with common sense doens't think that, if there welfare of there dog is at heart.

susan

The trouble is, people often only think "fluffy puppies, fluffy puppies" - so we do have to educate them - common sense unfortunately isn't always around in large lumps :(

Margot

I know what your saying but it's like getting a seven year old pregnant and it really gets on my nerves the amount of people on here saying the same thing.  She's just rescued that dog into a better life and it really doesn't need to be pregnant at this time, although i dont think it will be thank god but you never know.  I will say well done for rescuing it from a cramped life.  I'm not being a school kid i just hate young dogs who haven't been health tested and with what dog god knows who, i'm so fed up of seeing all these cross dogs in the paper for rehoming it really irratates me, because there's no need for it.

Susan

Steady on, the OP has said she enquired about the injection and the local vets didn't know about it. She also says that although she isn't in favour of abortion, she doesn't want to put to put her young bitch through a traumatic pregnancy. Someone has carefully then explained that the bitch isn't really pregnant if it's only a few days after the mating, so I would hope she will decide to go ahead with the spay operation. And remember, it wasn't her that let the bitch out - I bet none of us can hold our hands up and say that neither ourselves nor anyone else living in our household has ever been a little careless in some way, not necessarily with bitches in season, just in any way - perhaps we were just luckier! :-)

Hi Lucy i dont think it's got nothing to do with luck myself, four weeks out of a year you have to keep a close i on your bitch it's not much is it. So thats forty eight weeks she can do what she likes without out getting pregnant.

susan

Trouble is, Susantwenty, not everyone is as perfect as you obviously are! When someone has made a mistake (in this case, not even the poster herself) putting them down isn't going to help them or, more importantly, the dog is it?

Hi Anwen i never once said i was perfect no-one is  but everyone knows the facts of life!!!!!!!! It's got nothing to do with being perfect obviously.  Taking on a dog has alot of responsibility that goes with it and if you dont have time to give an animal you shouldn't have one, get a stuffed one instead.

Susan

EVERYONE can make a mistake. I have had dogs for 24 years, dogs and bitches together for 17 years. And yes I have had an accidental litter! ONE. I simply made the best of it. Yes it was my fault and nobody else's. Through that litter I found out just how many people it does happen to, even very VERY experienced breeders at times. In this thread we aren't exactly talking about somebody doing it deliberately.......and then the person should get as much help as possible. It's those people that don't care we can tell off, and that don't learn from their lessons.(There's certainly been a few like that!) I was TERRIFIED when I had to tell my bitch's breeder she had been mated by accident, but she was WONDERFUL; she stood by me and helped me out with everything, even finding homes for the pups.

The trouble is Susan, if posters are given a hard time for asking for help then they won't have the opportunity to make an informed decision, they either stop reading the thread or go elsewhere and get bad advice from the fluffy boards where people don't care what they say because they don't have to face the consequences.  So then the poster loses out and so does the bitch, not really a good result :(

hello lokis mum, i haven't gone anywhere i don't run from negative ignorance. i've just  been busy. like i said to some1 on here my cat that i've had for over 7 years now is now a diabetic so i've been spending alot of time at the vet planning out his treatment for this and learning what to look for and of all signs for the good and the bad that may come out of him being diabetic. ive also been learning how to give him his insulin injections ( needles and i don't mix, terrified of them) but i have no choice other wise i'll loose my kitty and i will do anything for my animals. but i've been giving them to him and i am pretty much over the fear and he doesn't mind being poked thank god so that makes things alot easier on me, i am the type of person that when my pets or my kids hurt, i hurt. (lol) but anyway i would like to thank you and alot of others on here for your wonderful advice, opinions and all the heartfelt care that u's have for animals.
i have some good news though my baby is going to be getting spaded on october 3rd. i have to drop her off in the morning  and if all goes well which i am so praying it does then i can pick her up that night, my vet that i have been going through for all my animals the last 17 years has worked out a payment plan with me there for making it possible to get her spaded. of course i am worried just as i would with any surgery my babys get (pets and kids). but i feel this is the best for her, myself and my family.
also just so all know, the fact that she even got out in the 1ST PLACE because of some1 in this household not being careful enough and making it possible for her to get out and the fact that she MAY be pregnant period is majorly on my nerves as well. but that's neither here nor there it happened and alls i can do is fix the possibilities of her being pregnant and then no longer ever have to worry about her getting pregnant EVER.
so again i thank you very deeply and all the others on here for the support and all the positive advice that has been given to me . have a good night and i will let u know how everything goes with her.

Hi Badydoll
I have just registered on this site today and noticed your story, my akita is 7 months old and is in her first season, I was not sure what to expect and have decided to have her spayed in December, I noticed that your 'baby' was being spayed today!!! If you get a minute will you reply to me and let me know how she was when she got home, I am thinking of taking a week off work to be with her 24/7 incase she feels really unwell after the op. I have had cats all my life - this is the first dog I have had and had her from 6 weeks of age and I love her as if she is my daughter, (Sad really) I know! but there you go.  I would be interested to know how it went. All the best of luck with her. I am still in the learning stage of Akitas - at the moment her temperament is unbeleivable - she loves everyone, visitors,c hildren - not sure whether this will change in months to come.  I have read alot about them before i bought her, however the only thing i can't control much at the moment is that she pulls me when we are walking and she is getting very strong!!! Take Care.

i live in wisconsin

Dear BabyDoll

The injection you need to ask about is one called Alizine which is administered twice 24 hours apart, for pregnancy termination in dogs. Alizine can be used any time up to day 45 for safe effective termination of a pregnancy.

If your vet has not heard of this ring around until you find one who has, and who can do this for your dog, she desperatley needs this, shes so young.
Please dont take to heart some of the comments some people here have your dogs wellbeing at heart. Good luck and hope you can dismiss some of the comments please come back and let us know how you get on :)

Hi Babydoll - I missed your reply to my messages/questions so I'm glad that I've picked up on it now!  I am so glad that you are having her spayed - it saves the problems of other people letting her out at the wrong time - I know only too well how aggravating it is to be always yelling "close that flippin' door or the dogs will be out/in" :rolleyes: !

Regards

Margot